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Ok ok I got it. Instead of regulating firearms we jsut ban all republicans and all republican mass and social media. Problem solved. YW CFC.
 
This but unironically. Ban the Republican Party, and keep guns in case the Republican Party comes back

somehow...the Republican Party returned
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You can't ban a party. Just make the other party so good it renders Republicans archaic & nonsensical. But of course if the democratic party could do that they wouldve already. Fact is they don't want to. Much more $ to be raised when the evil empire is a threat
 
You can't ban a party. Just make the other party so good it renders Republicans archaic & nonsensical. But of course if the democratic party could do that they wouldve already. Fact is they don't want to. Much more $ to be raised when the evil empire is a threat
actually banning parties because they pose a threat to your nation's democratic principles is a thing... I support this movement.

Opinion | Germany Is Treating a Major Party as a Threat to Its Democracy - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

I also support banning Alternative for Germany. We've been on this path before and we know where it leads, lest not our children and grandchildren say we did nothing in the face of evil when we saw it rising once again?
 
actually banning parties because they pose a threat to your nation's democratic principles is a thing
It certainly is.
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Lol you support it how?

If you ban the republican party they'll just get more votes...
I'm not sure you understand what the meaning of the word ban is...

Also, I support it in that I am actively working to promote people who will move this nation into the 21st century and pass real amendments to the constitution protecting a wide variety of things including rights to voting and thus the GOP being banned. fudge the grand old party. It might be a pipe dream, but if we don't change course soon civil war will happen.
 
I think that the ban would have to happen after sufficient violence has been applied, if only because it won't happen otherwise. So, it's a later goal, not a first.

If violence is needed to suppress the seditionists in Texas, then banning their national party might naturally follow. Full disclosure, I balk more at the idea of banning a party more than I balk at the idea that partisan violence will need to happen :lol:. Intuitions are weird.
 
It might be a pipe dream
Yes

I think that the ban would have to happen after sufficient violence has been applied, if only because it won't happen otherwise. So, it's a later goal, not a first.
It's dumb. A better goal is fix your own party so people want to go to it.

You got someone as bad as Trump + coronavirus & you can still barely win? Now you got roe vs wade overturned (highly unpopular) and dems still gonna lose ground in midterms.

While the right is stacking bricks, the left throwing them @ each other & talking about global revolution when they can't even get along w each other.
 
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It's dumb. A better goal is fix your own party so people want to go to it.

You got someone as bad as Trump + coronavirus & you can still barely win? Now you got roe vs wade overturned (highly unpopular) and dems still gonna lose ground in midterms.

While the right is stacking bricks, the left throwing them @ each other & talking about global revolution when they can't even get along w each other.
both parties are irredeemable from my PoV. Democrats should be our conservatives and considering the economics of our times being a conservative is insanely stupid, short-sighted, and willfully ignorant of recent history. If you mean fix "your own party" by usurping the Democratic party with a democratic socialist style party, then maybe. I do not think they should keep the name; the brand is dead.
 
It's dumb. A better goal is fix your own party so people want to go to it.
Ideally. And the risk of extremists is that they don't feel the need to earn the Center. But, there can also be a situation where a democracy is a democracy on paper only. If a minority is ruling without the Center, then it's not a democracy. I'd agree that pulling the Center left through charisma would be preferable, but the problems that need fixing are pretty hard to solve without doing things that the Center intuitively find risky or even damaging to what they feel entitled to.

The United States is in pretty big trouble, because the placement of judges using techniques that didn't include either the Center or the majority means that the crisis is something most people haven't lived through, it will feel like democracy doesn't matter. On top of that, the economic pendulum has swung to where serious correction is required .... and those pendulums always finish their swing.
 
Your system is too rigid.

AU just voted out a rightist government.
Not by major gains by the main opposition. Defectors from the right voted for centre right *independent* candidates.
The left also made some gains.

Many countries have multi party systems.

A tree that doesn't bend with the breeze will snap in the storm.
 
Speaking of dumb, attempting to present the two major political parties in the US and "left" and "right" is fitting for that kind of label.
In a way you are right, in that the difference between the two parties in the US in 2022 are nothing like the differences across the aisle in the National Assembly in 1789.

However given that we need a label for the sides I am not sure we have a better one at the moment. We should just define it a bit more.
 
In a way you are right, in that the difference between the two parties in the US in 2022 are nothing like the differences across the aisle in the National Assembly in 1789.

However given that we need a label for the sides I am not sure we have a better one at the moment. We should just define it a bit more.
I appreciate you trying to find nuance where there wasn't any explicitly provided by Narz, but he went on to equate leftists in terms of grassroots politics with the Democratic Party. The two aren't the same. The two barely even have any overlap beyond tactical voting. He's just straight-up whining about something that doesn't even exist.
 
I'm not sure if that counts as throwing bricks, or as the normal self-digestion that happens on the left.
 
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