No genocide needed. Just don't encourage it and tighten the borders.
Heck it was being done through out history ... until the recent 'Human Right' overkill.
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Heck it was being done through out history ... until the recent 'Human Right' overkill.
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If a huge future refugee crisis happens (because of climate change or whatever else) I'd assume several countries will try to accept refugees. Eventually the hardest afflicted ones will devolve into chaos, and the remaining countries will start killing people who try to cross the borders illegally, and eventually round refugees up into concentration camps (the type used by the British against the Boers, not the Nazi kind).
Perhaps Europe has been inoculated to some degrees by the current crisis, so that the worst early mistakes can be avoided. Making it clear from the start that the borders are closed and illegally entering is not a viable route to entry, is probably a good early step.
I really don't see any happy ending though. No one is going to help Bangladesh until it's too late, and no one will be willing or able to help the Bangladeshi people once millions of them have to move.
Perhaps Europe has been inoculated to some degrees by the current crisis, so that the worst early mistakes can be avoided. Making it clear from the start that the borders are closed and illegally entering is not a viable route to entry, is probably a good early step.
I really don't see any happy ending though. No one is going to help Bangladesh until it's too late, and no one will be willing or able to help the Bangladeshi people once millions of them have to move.
What's the CIA got to do with it? Another conspiracy theory?
Great movie ... lousy social commentary.
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Now you're just trolling.
Where did the name come from? What did it mean? How were they the same?Oh yes, because we have too many ''human rights''
So the Nazi kind? They have the same name for a reason
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I brought them up because abradley brought them up before. Also, you should look up hypocrisy. I don't think it means what you think it means.
Specific ? You want me to research the case files ?
Is my opinion that the Saudi government doesn't give a crap about it's citizens such a fringe belief that I now have to prove it ? Are the reports of 200 beheadings since the beginning of 2015 a fabrication ? Is it just a conspiracy theory that a blogger has been sentenced to 1000 lashes for insulting Islam and apostasy is punishable by death ?
Third picture down on the right says it all
As if the US Government has never overthrown a different government because it was threatening their companies' interests
Akka
Moody old mage.
I won't deny that CIA (and let's be honest, other secret services) has a very bad record about that.
It means we have a duty to elect government which will rein in such secret services. It DOESN'T mean the rest of the world has suddendly lost agency and we become responsible for it all.
Or if you consider that the West should basically manage the world, bring back colonisation and enjoy your self-contradictions.
So what ? Why would other countries have an OBLIGATION to take people from elsewhere in ? It's each group choice to accept newcomers.
Well, you're wrong about every single thing you just wrote in this part. As you didn't bother to provide any arguments, I won't bother to provide any counters.
Not that I would need to anyway, the "nation" word exists for a reason, and it's not because some random guy on Internet said that it didn't exists that reality suddendly has to oblige.
Where did I bring the up?
As for Saudi, how much time have you spent there?
I spent 3 months in country, the people were happy.
As for the harsh punishments, it works.
""Don't do the crime if you can't do the time."
Link to video.
Did you talk to the slaves?
No government will rein in the secret services, they need to be fought against directly. If people are to have the right of free movement, then yes, other countries have to take them in. I don't see what ''nation'' being a word has to do with anything
No government will rein in the secret services, they need to be fought against directly. If people are to have the right of free movement, then yes, other countries have to take them in. I don't see what ''nation'' being a word has to do with anything
I'm on board with not encouraging it. I'm not sure how causing masses of ecological refugees is part of that model, though. There's no amount of poverty that can be imposed that will make the task easier, too. Unless you kiss up against the genocide levels.
Tightening the borders will hardly work. Human desperation will always outpace bureaucratic industriousness.
It'll affect the flow of people. But they'll still come. And the more there are wanting to move, the more that will slip through. It's a numbers game.
Is that to me? If so, no.
Never saw any that I know of.
Islam is a very closed society, outsider aren't invited in, especially into their houses.
My contact was in local markets, seeing people on the street.
Even given a 'come hither look' in a gold suk in Tabuk. Two ladies wearing transparent veils. Expect they were 'friends' with some rich somebody.
Where was your contact?
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Then I used them as an example for a state that doesn't agree with human rights.
Yeah, OK. I think we're done here. Since I am not willing to rid myself of a moral stance and accept every law as good just because it's a law, there's simply no common ground to continue this exchange.
And since I've never been to Saudi Arabia, everything I can say about the country is nonsense. After all, I now have it on good authority that the people are happy and who am I to judge if somebody wants to kill their subjects for leaving a religion ?
I suspect a lot more people would die if you abolished borders.
It's almost like there're no simple solutions!
I'm really sure forcing only a handful of NATO allies to handle their own migrants isn't the correct one, though.
I'm really sure forcing only a handful of NATO allies to handle their own migrants isn't the correct one, though.
Akka
Moody old mage.
And we fight against Secret Services by letting people enter foreign countries ? Wut ?
No. And even if it were the case, there is no innate right to get into someone's else territory.
It was explicitely spelled out. If you are actively trying to miss the point, I'm not going to waste energy and time explaining to someone who will anyway ignore it.
Except if they destroyed your territory, I think.
Do you know the difference between 'humane' and 'human rights'.
It's not for you to judge.
Am a Catholic, ain't happy that Islam is demanding it's right to export itself using our Liberal laws while restricting other religions in it's sharia ruled country.
But it's not for me to criticize them ... rather the criticism should be at our Western culture for allowing the one sided situation.
Whose at fault ... lefties.
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