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Never Before Seen Civs - Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ - Ideas & Suggestions' started by Xandinho, Jun 26, 2019.

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  1. conorbebe

    conorbebe Chieftain

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    Argentina - 7
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    Berbers - 20
    Bulgaria - 18
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 12
    Gaul - 15
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 7 + 1 = 8 My personal most-wanted civilisation. I adore Polynesian culture and despite the inclusion of the Māori, I believe this region deserves more recognition. There are plenty of ways Hawaii could be distinguished, for they could have more of a tourism focus, with war canoes for their UA and fish ponds for their UI. Furthermore, Kamehameha is such an iconic and famous leader it would be a shame not to see him return in Civ VI.
    Hebrews - 22
    Italy - 21
    Madagascar - 23
    Muisca -12
    Navajo - 20
    Olmecs - 5
    Pueblo - 14
    Romania - 3
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 24
    Tlingit - 20
    Vietnam - 22 - 3 = 19 There are other civilisations in this region I would prefer to be included, such as Burma and Siam.
     
  2. Amrunril

    Amrunril Warlord

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    Argentina - 7
    Armenia - 21
    Ashanti - 20
    Berbers - 20
    Bulgaria - 18
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 12
    Gaul - 15
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 8
    Hebrews - 19 (22 - 3) Obviously very important in a cultural and religious sense, but the way larger powers interacted with it makes it pretty much the perfect example of a city state (though the current suzerain bonus really doesn't do it justice. A city state that founds its own religion and gives its suzerain the founder benefits could be far more interesting).
    Italy - 21
    Madagascar - 23
    Muisca -12
    Navajo - 21 (20 + 1) A prominent civ in a region with no representation in any edition of the game.
    Olmecs - 5
    Pueblo - 14
    Romania - 3
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 24
    Tlingit - 20
    Vietnam - 19
     
  3. SagarRathore

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    Berbers - 20
    Bulgaria - 18
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 12
    Gaul - 15
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 8
    Hebrews - 19+1=20 they had made great impact on world and continue to do so.May be only power to counter Arab power in middle east.
    Italy - 21
    Madagascar - 23
    Muisca -12
    Navajo - 21
    Olmecs - 5-3=2 Aztecs are already there

    Pueblo - 14
    Romania - 3
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 24
    Tlingit - 20
    Vietnam - 19
     
  4. Alexander's Hetaroi

    Alexander's Hetaroi Warlord

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    Argentina - 7+1=8 I'd like a Spanish speaking country other than Spain to be in the game and since this is lower I'm going to try to keep this one alive since it's lower than Colombia.
    Armenia - 21
    Ashanti - 20
    Berbers - 20
    Bulgaria - 18
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 12
    Gaul - 15
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 8
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 21
    Madagascar - 23
    Muisca -12
    Navajo - 21
    Olmecs - 2-3=Eliminated Someone had to go first and the Olmecs are hard to do.

    Pueblo - 14
    Romania - 3
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 24
    Tlingit - 20
    Vietnam - 19
     
  5. AmazonQueen

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    Argentina - 8-3=5. Another suitcase in another hall.
    Armenia - 21
    Ashanti - 20
    Berbers - 20
    Bulgaria - 18
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 12
    Gaul - 15
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 8
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 21
    Madagascar - 23
    Muisca -12
    Navajo - 21+1=22. The native North American civ I'd most like to see added.
    Pueblo - 14
    Romania - 3
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 24
    Tlingit - 20
    Vietnam - 19
     
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  6. TahamiTsunami

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    Berbers - 20
    Bulgaria - 18
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 12
    Gaul - 15
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 8
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 21 - 3 = 18 They're definitely cool but I don't think I'd put them above some of the other European options here let alone the African or native New World ones that are still few in number in the game.
    Madagascar - 23
    Muisca -12
    Navajo - 22
    Pueblo - 14 + 1 = 15 Lets keep in mind that it was the Tewa Puebloans that refused to be in the game, there's some hope that another Puebloan group like the Hopi or Acoma would be more open to it and they'd certainly be worthy additions if they did. While I understand that they can refuse or that Firaxis may not want to take the risk, I don't know if I'd judge it based on if they could actually appear in the game or not (especially when considering who's currently leading this game, I'd just prefer some consistency).
    Romania - 3
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 24
    Tlingit - 20
    Vietnam - 19
     
  7. Pokarnor

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    Bulgaria - 18
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 12
    Gaul - 16 (15+1) Giving them a bump since they took a few hits. People have mentioned true start location as an issue but I don't agree it should be a prohibitive factor. Earth maps, as much as I like them, are not the primary way to play Civ, and shouldn't (IMO) be cause to exclude a civ. Gaul is chronologically, culturally, and just generally very distinct from France. I don't think it should be penalized for existing in the same general region as France, and I rarely see people suggest such a thing in the case of say, Byzantium and the Ottomans.
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 8
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 18
    Madagascar - 23
    Muisca - 9 (12-3) as stated before I have little interest in them.
    Navajo - 22
    Pueblo - 15
    Romania - 3
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 24
    Tlingit - 20
    Vietnam - 19
     
  8. Xandinho

    Xandinho Warlord

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    Argentina - 6 (5+1) It's about to fall, but I think Argentina has its credentials to be in the game.
    Armenia - 21
    Ashanti - 20
    Berbers - 20
    Bulgaria - 18
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 12
    Gaul - 16
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 5 (8-3) Maori has just been added, I can wait a little longer to have another nation of the Pacific.
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 18
    Madagascar - 23
    Muisca - 9
    Navajo - 22
    Pueblo - 15
    Romania - 3
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 24
    Tlingit - 20
    Vietnam - 19
     
  9. 679x

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    Ashanti - 20
    Berbers - 20
    Bulgaria - 18
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 12
    Gaul - 16
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 5
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 18+1 = 19 - This is an interesting one. Normally, I'd expect Italy to be represented by a wealth of different city-states. As it stands, we only have ONE: Bologna. (You could even theorize that they planned - or still do plan - on making Italy a civ by the lack of Italian city-states, as well as that whole thing about Genoa being listed as a civ in the code around release). But, I'd support it becoming a full civ, even though it'd be another European civ and takes up the same space as Rome. Italy is well-known for its culture and is another one on this list with a rich history. Plenty of scientific achievements in its history, influential, prospering arts for centuries, etc. I think it has a case.
    Madagascar - 23
    Muisca - 9
    Navajo - 22
    Pueblo - 15
    Romania - 3-3 = 0 - Eliminated. There are just so many European civs. If we want more, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, we'll need to find something that lends itself to a unique design in terms of gameplay and 'feel', and was also exceedingly influential in its time and possibly even after. I don't think Romania stands out so much that I would pick it over anything else here. Hungary kind of bumps this one out of a spot, IMO. Maybe we'll see you in Civ 7, Romania.
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 24
    Tlingit - 20
    Vietnam - 19
     
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  10. PhoenicianGold

    PhoenicianGold Chieftain

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    Argentina - 6
    Armenia - 21
    Ashanti - 20
    Berbers - 20
    Bulgaria - 19 (18 + 1) - Just bringing these guys back up to parity. I really want a modern era take on Bulgarian women's choral music.
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 12
    Gaul - 16
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 5
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 19
    Madagascar - 20 (23 - 3) - Seems just a tad overblown to me. It's about as regionally/globally influential as Hawaii, i.e. mostly kept to itself unless traded with. Which to me says city-state. Whereas if any culture had a strong influence on east Africa, it would either be the Swahili or Omani.
    Muisca - 9
    Navajo - 22
    Pueblo - 15
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 24
    Tlingit - 20
    Vietnam - 19
     
  11. EdmundIronside

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    Argentina - 7 (6+1) They would work as the main regional rivals for Brazil
    Armenia - 21
    Ashanti - 20
    Berbers - 20
    Bulgaria - 19
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 12
    Gaul - 16
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 5
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 19
    Madagascar - 20
    Muisca - 6 (9-3) Just too minor to be worth including in my opinion
    Navajo - 22
    Pueblo - 15
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 24
    Tlingit - 20
    Vietnam - 19
     
  12. The Kingmaker

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    Argentina - 7
    Armenia - 21
    Ashanti - 20
    Berbers - 20-3=17 As interesting as the Amazigh people are, I can’t help but wonder if they aren’t at least partially already represented by Morocco.
    Bulgaria - 19
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 12
    Gaul - 16+1=17 A nice early-era adversary for Rome, Greece and Carthage (Phoenicia...). Plus we need some Celts.
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 5
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 19
    Madagascar - 20
    Muisca - 6
    Navajo - 22
    Pueblo - 15
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 24
    Tlingit - 20
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  13. SagarRathore

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    Colombia - 12
    Gaul - 17
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 5
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 19
    Madagascar - 20
    Muisca - 6
    Navajo - 22
    Peublo - 15-3=12 not much attached to them
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 24+1=25 fan of Dalai lama,want a civilization based on mountain(Highest Plateau in the World)
    Tlingit - 20
    Vietnam -
     
  14. Morningcalm

    Morningcalm Keeper of Records

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    Argentina - 7
    Armenia - 21
    Ashanti - 20
    Berbers - 17
    Bulgaria - 19
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 12 + 1 = 13 (A push for a worthy civ so central to South American history and a tribute to the courage of South Americans who threw off the Spanish colonial yoke. Also, leader could be Simon Bolivar, unique unit the Llanero.)
    Gaul - 17
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 5
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 19
    Madagascar - 20
    Muisca - 6
    Navajo - 22
    Pueblo - 12
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 25
    Tlingit - 20 - 3 = 17 (Simply not enough info on a significant leader for this group. In fact one of the main leader suggestions is just a title. Almost as problematic a leader issue as with the Olmecs. Heck, at least legendary figures like Kupe had more info in their stories than the Tlingit chiefs! Kind of a shame really, as the civ itself is interesting.)
    Vietnam - 19
     
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  15. TeddyMain

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    Argentina - 7-3 = 4 In my opinion they should be eliminated for 2 reasons: 1. If we want another post colonial civilization to represent South America I believe Colombia would be a better choice, considering the lasting impact they have had on the continent and its history, and 2. The Patagonia/South^2 America region is already represented by the Mapuche. They would be a neat addition, but I think they would have it best in another title.
    Armenia - 21
    Ashanti - 20
    Berbers - 17
    Bulgaria - 19
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 13
    Gaul - 17
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 5 + 1 = 6 I'm aware that we already have had the Maori just implemented as a Pacific representative but I cannot let Hawaii die this early. They are by far my most wanted realistic civ (other than pipe-dream Texas) and personally I thought they could have some bonuses with volcanic soil and/or tourism, with their UI being the Heiau and their UU being the Koa. Also, a Geoff Knorr take on Aloha Oe would be insane.
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 19
    Madagascar - 20
    Muisca - 6
    Navajo - 22
    Pueblo - 12
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 25
    Tlingit - 17
    Vietnam - 19

    Also first post, I've lingered way too long on this site without an account.
     
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  16. Alexander's Hetaroi

    Alexander's Hetaroi Warlord

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    Argentina - 4+1=5 We got both the Cree and then Canada, so it's not unrealistic to say we might get the Mapuche and then Argentina to cover the southern part of South America and rival Brazil as well. I'm not going cry for Argentina just yet.
    Armenia - 21
    Ashanti - 20
    Berbers - 17
    Bulgaria - 19
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 13
    Gaul - 17
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 6-3=3 As I have stated before I would have been find with them if it wasn't for the inclusion of the Maori. Realistically I don't see them making a Hawaii without a wayfinding/mana ability which they already gave to the Maori.
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 19
    Madagascar - 20
    Muisca - 6
    Navajo - 22
    Pueblo - 12
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    Tibet - 25
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  17. Naktis

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    Colombia - 13
    Gaul - 17
    Goths - 21
    Hawaiians - 3-3 Eliminated. I don't really like to play Maori that much , and you want to add simillar civ.
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 20 (19+1) I really like to see whole Italy, not just city states like Civ5.
    Madagascar - 20
    Muisca - 6
    Navajo - 22
    Pueblo - 12
    Swahili - 20
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  18. Xandinho

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    Argentina - 6 (5+1) Just giving it some breaths.
    Armenia - 21
    Ashanti - 20
    Berbers - 17
    Bulgaria - 16 (19-3) As I said before, I'm not very interested in Bulgaria right now, I prefer Romania. Maybe I would include Bulgaria in a fifth expansion, if there were. If they did include Bulgaria in the third expansion, I would not complain, it's just personal opinion on not having this now.
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 13
    Gaul - 17
    Goths - 21
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 20
    Madagascar - 20
    Muisca - 6
    Navajo - 22
    Pueblo - 12
    Swahili - 20
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    Vietnam - 19
     
  19. The Kingmaker

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    Argentina - 6
    Armenia - 21
    Ashanti - 20
    Berbers - 17
    Bulgaria - 16
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 13
    Gaul - 17+1=18 The best possible representation of the classical-era Celts. Plus, Druids would be really cool!
    Goths - 21
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 20
    Madagascar - 20
    Muisca - 6
    Navajo - 22
    Pueblo - 12
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 25
    Tlingit - 17-3=14 As unique as they are, there's an awful lot of Native Americans not yet represented, and these are a lot closer geographically to the Cree than say, the Navajo would be.
    Vietnam - 19
     
  20. PhoenicianGold

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    Argentina - 6
    Armenia - 21
    Ashanti - 20
    Berbers - 17
    Bulgaria - 17 (16 + 1) - I know Simeon's aesthetic is competing with Theodora or Irene's but c'mon. He's a dude with a pearl headdress.
    Burma - 21
    Colombia - 13
    Gaul - 15 (18 - 3) - I never liked the idea of the Celts in civ as a "that'll do" space filler that we no longer need. I certainly don't like the idea of the Gauls, given that they would be only one arbitrary option out of several samey barbarian blobs such as the Slavs, the Franks, the Norse. We have Russia and Olga seems possible. We have "Francia" under Eleanor. We have Norway. And we have Scotland, which is way, way better than the Gauls. I would rather have a proper civ like Ireland than backtrack to stale, thin ideas from earlier installments. Go play At the Gates if you want barbarian hordes, but the only example I can see making VI is the Goths given that they actually settled down into unified polities.
    Goths - 21
    Hebrews - 20
    Italy - 20
    Madagascar - 20
    Muisca - 6
    Navajo - 22
    Pueblo - 12
    Swahili - 20
    Tibet - 25
    Tlingit - 14
    Vietnam - 19
     
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