Never before seen wonders - Elimination Thread
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I think that a mid game entertainment wonder would be nice. So far we have the Colosseum in classical era and the Maracanã in the very late game. Coney Island would come earlier than the Maracanã, but I think it would be better to have one that comes in Industrial era or Renaissance in between and not another modern era one.
Right now, I don't have a brilliant idea what it could be that is exclusively an amenity generating wonder - but I can imagine the Scala or Globe Theatre as wonders that give amenities for each Great Work of Music or Writing in your empire and have slots for great works.
Or possibly a non-Western entertainment wonder.
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God of Kings
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How about the original Luna Park?
In many languages, their word for theme park is "Luna Park."
In many languages, their word for theme park is "Luna Park."
All three were established as amusement parks\areas in the mid 1800s with the rides coming in the late 1800s.
Dyrehavsbakken was actually established in the 16th century - but as for the others, their importance is from the very late industrial and modern era onwards. Not that civ does take the actual founding/building dates of wonders that seriously though.
I'm not sure about privately owned and presumably copyrighted wonders. Did we have anything like that yet? To call it Coney Island might be the easier option, even if it looks like the original Luna Park.
Coney Island had several amusement parks so it would be better to just use Coney Island.
God of Kings
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There's also Katalnaya Gorka (the inspiration for Russian Mountains), located in Catherine the Great's residence in Oranienbaum.
Russian Mountains are essentially predecessors to roller coasters (in some languages, roller coasters are known as "Russian Mountains"). Interestingly enough, the Russian term for modern roller coasters is "American Mountains."
Russian Mountains are essentially predecessors to roller coasters (in some languages, roller coasters are known as "Russian Mountains"). Interestingly enough, the Russian term for modern roller coasters is "American Mountains."
And here is round 2. I guess you'll all be unhappy with the selection. It's 4 wonders from 5 continents + 1 from Australia and 1 non-wonder (that I included because I'd like to have a ancient unique structure that helps with building more wonders as the game progresses)
Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 20
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 20
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 20
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 20
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 20
Spring Temple Buddha 20
St. Mark's Basilica 20
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 20
Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 20
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 20
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 20
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 20
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 20
Spring Temple Buddha 20
St. Mark's Basilica 20
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 20
Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 20
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 20-3=17 - Certainly not. Actually, I don't even think this is a wonder.
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 20
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 20
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 20
Spring Temple Buddha 20
St. Mark's Basilica 20+1=21 - It seems that I have two top choices in this list. Santa Maria del Fiore and St. Mark's Basilica. It won't be easy to choose which I'd like more in game... But I'll give my first upvote here. It's symbol of Venice and also one of the most known churches in the world.
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 20
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 20-3=17 - Certainly not. Actually, I don't even think this is a wonder.
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 20
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 20
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 20
Spring Temple Buddha 20
St. Mark's Basilica 20+1=21 - It seems that I have two top choices in this list. Santa Maria del Fiore and St. Mark's Basilica. It won't be easy to choose which I'd like more in game... But I'll give my first upvote here. It's symbol of Venice and also one of the most known churches in the world.
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 20
Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 20
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 17 - 3 = 14 Not what I'd call wonder
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 20
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 20 + 1 = 21 Very beautiful and impressive, could come as a powerful cultural wonder of the middle of the game.
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 20
Spring Temple Buddha 20
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 20
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 17 - 3 = 14 Not what I'd call wonder
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 20
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 20 + 1 = 21 Very beautiful and impressive, could come as a powerful cultural wonder of the middle of the game.
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 20
Spring Temple Buddha 20
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 20
Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 20
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 15 (14+1) UNESCO thinks it is a wonder (agreed, there is an abundance of those World Heritage Sites), but I tend to agree with them because the history and impact of the site is rather special. It presented itself as a wonder due to potential abilities concerning luxury or strategic resources - which in my book makes it a more interesting addition than many of the religious wonders.
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 20
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 21
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 20
Spring Temple Buddha 17 (20-3) not fond of that one. An incredibly large statue - but neither a really beauty nor 'art'. And what would it do coming in the very last stages of the game as a religious wonder without a significant history to it?
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 20
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 15 (14+1) UNESCO thinks it is a wonder (agreed, there is an abundance of those World Heritage Sites), but I tend to agree with them because the history and impact of the site is rather special. It presented itself as a wonder due to potential abilities concerning luxury or strategic resources - which in my book makes it a more interesting addition than many of the religious wonders.
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 20
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 21
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 20
Spring Temple Buddha 17 (20-3) not fond of that one. An incredibly large statue - but neither a really beauty nor 'art'. And what would it do coming in the very last stages of the game as a religious wonder without a significant history to it?
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 20
Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 20 + 1 = 21. Need a midgame amenity wonder and it would be quite colorful on the map.
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 15
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 20 -3 = 17. I don't think Civ can live up to its appearance in Metro 2033.
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 21
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 20
Spring Temple Buddha 17
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 20 + 1 = 21. Need a midgame amenity wonder and it would be quite colorful on the map.
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 15
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 20 -3 = 17. I don't think Civ can live up to its appearance in Metro 2033.
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 21
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 20
Spring Temple Buddha 17
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 20
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Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 21
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 15-3=12 Just because it is a world Heritage site doesn't mean that these abandoned Saltpeter refineries are wonder material. Plus this place doesn't look good on a map.
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 17
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 21
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 20+1=21 A history museum would go good with the art museum that is the Hermitage.
Spring Temple Buddha 17
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 21
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 15-3=12 Just because it is a world Heritage site doesn't mean that these abandoned Saltpeter refineries are wonder material. Plus this place doesn't look good on a map.
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 17
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 21
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 20+1=21 A history museum would go good with the art museum that is the Hermitage.
Spring Temple Buddha 17
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 20
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Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 21
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 12
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 17
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 21
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 21
Spring Temple Buddha (17-3)=14 Too recent to be a wonder in Civ6
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I (20+1)=21 Aka Nemrut Dag, it's a wonderful ancient wonder
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 21
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 12
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 17
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 21
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 21
Spring Temple Buddha (17-3)=14 Too recent to be a wonder in Civ6
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I (20+1)=21 Aka Nemrut Dag, it's a wonderful ancient wonder
Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 21
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 12-3=9 - I'm sorry, but all I see is rusty and abandoned ruin. Also, there were lot saltpeter works in Chile. I'm really not interrested in it.
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 17
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 21+1=22 - As I said, I have two top choices. St. Mark's Basilica and this. It's incredible Renaissance wonder I'd really like to see in game.
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 21
Spring Temple Buddha 14
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 21
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 21
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 12-3=9 - I'm sorry, but all I see is rusty and abandoned ruin. Also, there were lot saltpeter works in Chile. I'm really not interrested in it.
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 17
Palais des Papes 20
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 21+1=22 - As I said, I have two top choices. St. Mark's Basilica and this. It's incredible Renaissance wonder I'd really like to see in game.
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 21
Spring Temple Buddha 14
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 21
Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 21
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 9
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 17 - 3 = 14 It doesn't interest me, particularly.
Palais des Papes 20 + 1 = 21 A beautiful and impressive example of medieval Gothic architecture, and with an interesting history.
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 22
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 21
Spring Temple Buddha 14
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 21
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20
Coney Island 21
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 9
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 17 - 3 = 14 It doesn't interest me, particularly.
Palais des Papes 20 + 1 = 21 A beautiful and impressive example of medieval Gothic architecture, and with an interesting history.
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 22
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 21
Spring Temple Buddha 14
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 21
Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20+1=21 (we definately need some wonders from pre-Columbian North America, and this one would look awesome on the map)
Coney Island 21
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 9-3=6 (...what?)
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 14
Palais des Papes 21
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 22
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 21
Spring Temple Buddha 14
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 21
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 20+1=21 (we definately need some wonders from pre-Columbian North America, and this one would look awesome on the map)
Coney Island 21
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 9-3=6 (...what?)
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 14
Palais des Papes 21
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 22
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 21
Spring Temple Buddha 14
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 21
Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 21
Coney Island 21
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 6-3=3 - I tried to compare it to rest of the options on this list. It failed to prove it's more wondrous than anything else on this list, so it has to go.
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 14
Palais des Papes 21
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 22
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 21
Spring Temple Buddha 14
St. Mark's Basilica 21+1=22 - I don't know what to upvote, so I'll support this incredibly impressive Venetian church.
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 21
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 21
Coney Island 21
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 6-3=3 - I tried to compare it to rest of the options on this list. It failed to prove it's more wondrous than anything else on this list, so it has to go.
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 14
Palais des Papes 21
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 22
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 21
Spring Temple Buddha 14
St. Mark's Basilica 21+1=22 - I don't know what to upvote, so I'll support this incredibly impressive Venetian church.
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 21
God of Kings
Ruler of all heads of state
Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 20
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 21
Coney Island 21 + 1 = 22 There needs to be an amusement park wonder
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED Just because it's a UNESCO Heritage Site does not grant it immunity
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 14
Palais des Papes 21
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 22
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 21
Spring Temple Buddha 14
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 21
Burj Al Arab 20
Cairo Citadel 20
Caral Pyramids 20
Chrysler Building 20
Cliff Palace 21
Coney Island 21 + 1 = 22 There needs to be an amusement park wonder
Cothon of Carthage 20
Gyeongbokgung Palace 20
Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED Just because it's a UNESCO Heritage Site does not grant it immunity
Karnak Temples 20
Ostankino Tower 14
Palais des Papes 21
Parkes Observatory 20
Qorikancha 20
Santa Maria del Fiore 22
(Set Maat) 20
Smithsonian Institution 21
Spring Temple Buddha 14
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 20
Tomb of Antiochus I 21
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