Next patch anticipation thread

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tekjunkie28 said:
At the end of the day the best thing is for Firaxis to end ties with 2K. They are getting worse then EA.

I hope they don't end up like Maxis
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That's a hefty charge: we are talking about the company that has succeeded at ruining BioWare, one of the most solid studios in the industry. But I do agree that 2k is probably not a positive influence on Firaxis. Price of success, I suppose: big companies notice you.
 
Eagle Pursuit said:
In US terms seasons all start on Equinoxes or Solstices. It's how we measure them here.

Anyway, back on topic.

They are running a bit late on the Linux QA build, but it seems conceivable that all three platforms are testing the same version as of this morning.

If that is the case, this COULD BE the last test build. Tomorrow could be patch day. We will have a better idea tomorrow morning. After they update the Linux QA build, no news is good news.

The Linux QA build is now up. The Steam guy probably came back from lunch.
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How you measure sesaons depends on wheter you use the metereological (first of the month) or the astrological (21st of the month) way.

Anyways, sorry for the slight derail. I have to say I really hope for a patch (no matter the season), even if only because every day earlier means a day more to play it (during holiday, that is).
 
Leyrann said:
How you measure sesaons depends on wheter you use the metereological (first of the month) or the astrological (21st of the month) way.

Anyways, sorry for the slight derail. I have to say I really hope for a patch (no matter the season), even if only because every day earlier means a day more to play it (during holiday, that is).
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It's kind of amusing in that sense. If it does come out this week, on the heels on a holiday weekend (for some civil servants, bank employees, and students in the US), it's like "Gee, thanks Firaxis. You could've done this last week so I could use my extra free time to play it."
 
Eagle Pursuit said:
It's kind of amusing in that sense. If it does come out this week, on the heels on a holiday weekend (for some civil servants, bank employees, and students in the US), it's like "Gee, thanks Firaxis. You could've done this last week so I could use my extra free time to play it."
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But "Half Term" in the UK has just ended (The UK's week of school/college/ect) meaning we miss out on the opportunity to play it all week long, heh. But I do suppose they would cater more to the States seeing as you are the larger and home audience.
 
AvianBritish said:
But "Half Term" in the UK has just ended (The UK's week of school/college/ect) meaning we miss out on the opportunity to play it all week long, heh. But I do suppose they would cater more to the States seeing as you are the larger and home audience.
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Also, I'm ignorant of non-American minor holidays.
 
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Are they through a full cycle again?
 
The more I think about this the less likely I think a patch is coming this week. I have a feeling that we're still looking at another week of testing. Idk what they keep testing but is seems rediculous to be posting a new QA every day unless they are just testing balance issues and running numbers.
 
tekjunkie28 said:
The more I think about this the less likely I think a patch is coming this week. I have a feeling that we're still looking at another week of testing. Idk what they keep testing but is seems rediculous to be posting a new QA every day unless they are just testing balance issues and running numbers.
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They did this for 2 weeks in December too.
 
Am I interpreting this correctly:

The DLC content looks like it was ready to go about 12 days ago. I gather this by clicking through some of the ID numbers and the CD_Key stuff was set 12 days ago? Does that likely mean the DLC content was set up already?

Additionally, the 2kqa builds are what they are testing at the current time? Do they call them 2kqa builds because they upload them for the 2k team to test and it's different than the Firaxis QA team? I know no one probably knows for sure but curious if that's good logic.
 
BTSeven7 said:
Am I interpreting this correctly:

The DLC content looks like it was ready to go about 12 days ago. I gather this by clicking through some of the ID numbers and the CD_Key stuff was set 12 days ago? Does that likely mean the DLC content was set up already?

Additionally, the 2kqa builds are what they are testing at the current time? Do they call them 2kqa builds because they upload them for the 2k team to test and it's different than the Firaxis QA team? I know no one probably knows for sure but curious if that's good logic.
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The DLC stuff was definitely up for testing on the Jan 23rd for PC and Feb 8th for Mac/Linux. The CD key stuff was probably just getting things ready for Steam to accept it as a product, but I don't know for sure.

I know Firaxians in Baltimore play test the 2K qa builds based on a Tweet from Pete Murray back in December. I assume 2K has QA testers working on it as well. Aspyr is in Texas and presumably submits the Mac and Linux versions for 2K testers as well.
 
BTSeven7 said:
Am I interpreting this correctly:

The DLC content looks like it was ready to go about 12 days ago. I gather this by clicking through some of the ID numbers and the CD_Key stuff was set 12 days ago? Does that likely mean the DLC content was set up already?

Additionally, the 2kqa builds are what they are testing at the current time? Do they call them 2kqa builds because they upload them for the 2k team to test and it's different than the Firaxis QA team? I know no one probably knows for sure but curious if that's good logic.
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The DLC content is probably also getting tested in conjunction with the patch.

A high-level guess at the process (just based on generic agile sprint process that's the standar software dev workflow) would be:
1) Firaxis has a list of bugs/features ranked by priority and ease of implementation.
2) A subset of these is selected and worked on in 2-4 week cycles. As a specific item is finished, it is QA-ed in-house in Firaxis, and then moved to the main dev branch.
3) After a certain number of these cycles, 'new' development essentially stops and all the qa-ed changes are put into the builds we see on steam (this is possibly the point that code gets passed to Aspyr to begin conversion to Mac).
4) These builds than get a full regression test (essentially retesting the entire game to make sure fix a didn't accidentally break b or c) with the assistance of 2k QA. Any bugs that are found related to new development get fixed and added to a new build for testing.

So by the point that there is daily QA builds on steam, I'd guess all the features (including DLC) and bug fixes for the upcoming patch are essentially 'finished' and they are doing a lot of testing (and fixes) to make sure everything is working with the new changes.
 
bbbt said:
The DLC content is probably also getting tested in conjunction with the patch.

A high-level guess at the process (just based on generic agile sprint process that's the standar software dev workflow) would be:
1) Firaxis has a list of bugs/features ranked by priority and ease of implementation.
2) A subset of these is selected and worked on in 2-4 week cycles. As a specific item is finished, it is QA-ed in-house in Firaxis, and then moved to the main dev branch.
3) After a certain number of these cycles, 'new' development essentially stops and all the qa-ed changes are put into the builds we see on steam (this is possibly the point that code gets passed to Aspyr to begin conversion to Mac).
4) These builds than get a full regression test (essentially retesting the entire game to make sure fix a didn't accidentally break b or c) with the assistance of 2k QA. Any bugs that are found related to new development get fixed and added to a new build for testing.

So by the point that there is daily QA builds on steam, I'd guess all the features (including DLC) and bug fixes for the upcoming patch are essentially 'finished' and they are doing a lot of testing (and fixes) to make sure everything is working with the new changes.
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Thank you. I could not hope to express that as concisely as you did.
 
I can see scenarios for both tonight and tomorrow, but that doesn't make either more likely than Wednesday or Thursday at this point.

Basically:
IF this last set of QA updates was the last one and they only do a cursory test on it AND we don't see any more changes to QA builds today AND we start seeing things like package updates and named achievements, then it could be tonight

IF this is the last set of QA updates and they want to test it more thoroughly, look for that other stuff tomorrow

IF this was NOT the last set of QA updates and they update all three again tomorrow morning, go back to the beginning

IF this was NOT the last set of QA updates and they update them separately tomorrow like they normally do, nothing to get excited about yet
 
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