No Parole for Canadian Mercy-Killer

1) Why is he the arbiter of the very state of whether his daughter lives or not?

In a perfect world a doctor (or maybe a panel of doctors) would be determining this.. or maybe a judge backed by a doctor or two..

if I was in his position I don't think I would ahve been brave enough to do what he did.. it must have been the hardest decision he had to make in his life.

Either way, the state did not have a mechanism to solve this problem in place, so he took the matter into his own hands, because someone he loved dearly was involved.. I can understand that.

I don't support what he did either - but would support a state-sanctioned solution.. but if that doesn't exist.. I'd feel sympathy for anyone who had to resort to what he did..
 
I may have been confused. I do know that to receive parole that one has to admit to their guilt.

Yes, but I beleive (unless I'm confused too!) that the 'guilt' they speak of is only in the technical sense. Latimer has never denied that he did the deed, but he'll be damned (and so would I, in his position) if he had to get up and admit that what he did was wrong, in a moral sense.

The parole board is insisting that Latimer accept their view that it was wrong to kill his daughter. Robert Latimer believes it wasn't wrong. The issue here is that Latimer, a father, killed his daughter, as opposed to a doctor. Robert could have easily found a doctor to assist in the suicide with little consequence. The motivation appears to be out of love, but he seriously broke the law when he put that child in a car with exhaust fumes. It seems like an appropirate solution, but is actually a stupid one considering its violation of numerous checks and balances. Like the one where you can't put people in cars with exhaust fumes running into them. As a consequence he will sit in minimum security until he finally changes his mind.

Easily found a doctor? Euthanasia is not legal in Canada, and getting a doctor to perform such a procedure, rather than doing it yourself, is just as illegal. If anything, I think that Latimer showed moral conviction by doing it himself, in the most humane way he could manage, rather than getting adoctor to risk his livelyhood and freedom for his daughter's cause.


I don't support him:

1) Why is he the arbiter of the very state of whether his daughter lives or not?

If you had to pick anyone on earth to fill that position, who would it be? She certainly didn't have the capacity to....

2) Daughter is incapable of seeing father's reasoning

Or much else for that matter. In the meantime, she suffers agony not knowing why...

3) Sets precedent -- people with severe disabilities have lives "not worth living".

Personally, I feel that this reason (so oft quoted by activists here) misses the point entirely. People with disabilities can live long and fruitful lives, no doubt, people in constant pain without an end in sight, whether disabled or not, that point is debateable. The only reason that her disability is an issue at all (besides the fact that it contributed to her pain), is that she didn't have the capacity to choose.

Imagine that instead of having cerebral palsy, she was in a terrible accident. She suffered greatly, continued to suffer, and, on top of that, lost all motor control, giving her absolutely no way to communicate her wishes or desires to her family or her doctor. Her father knows that she is suffering every day, and that she feels that pain quite acutely, and that there is virtually no chance of her recovering, even enough for her to be able to communicate what she wants. Would you have any more sympathy for him if he chose the same course of action in this case?
 
Is that the one in the Metallica "one" video?

Yeah. Though clearly the movie is an actual movie.
Yes, I've seen it.

It's a bit different from people who've already developed, because there is (at least) the possibility of making one's wishes known ahead of time. Some of my family members have been very clear about how they wish to be treated if they're incapacitated.
 
I hope the father considered the consequences of his actions on himself before making the decision to kill his daughter. It's one thing to say, "I'm doing the right thing for my daughter," but quite another to say, "I'm doing the right thing for my daughter, even if it means I spend the next 20 years in prison."
 
Is that the one in the Metallica "one" video?

It is. The complete movie is a legendary masterpiece imo. I think the producer really made the best job ever at making the audience feel and kinda understand what it would feel like to be held hostage by your own body, in a very similar way then what that little girl must have lived.

Those that are against euthanasia (in extreme cases) should definitely watch that movie and do some introspection. There are cases where death must seem like such a salvation, compared to the hell in witch they live there life.
 
I hope the father considered the consequences of his actions on himself before making the decision to kill his daughter. It's one thing to say, "I'm doing the right thing for my daughter," but quite another to say, "I'm doing the right thing for my daughter, even if it means I spend the next 20 years in prison."

Everything that I've read has pointed to the fact that Latimer agonized over this situation at some length before acting, and did consider the consequences of his actions...

Yeah, because you murder someone out of love. :rolleyes:

There is no doubt in my mind that what Robert Latimer did, he did out of love for his daughter. If you can't even consider the possbility of that, I'll just say that you have a somewhat narrow view of the situation...

It is. The complete movie is a legendary masterpiece imo. I think the producer really made the best job ever at making the audience feel and kinda understand what it would feel like to be held hostage by your own body, in a very similar way then what that little girl must have lived.

Those that are against euthanasia (in extreme cases) should definitely watch that movie and do some introspection. There are cases where death must seem like such a salvation, compared to the hell in witch they live there life.


Indeed. I'll take alook for it ithe next time I'm in the video store...
 
Any yet you believe that it would had nothing to do with skipping out of responsibility?
 
Any yet you believe that it would had nothing to do with skipping out of responsibility?

Which responsibility is that? Of taking care of his child, or of facing the consequences of his actions?
 
Taking care of his child.

Hey, I don't expect you to change your mind about this, because I don't try to do that type of thing on CFC. However, I look at the potential. With life, she has potential to live okay somewhere down the road. Without it, she has no chance.
 
Taking care of his child.

He did what he believed to be best for his child. That, I believe is taking responsibility,e ven if it might land him in jail for teh remainder of his days.

Hey, I don't expect you to change your mind about this, because I don't try to do that type of thing on CFC. However, I look at the potential. With life, she has potential to live okay somewhere down the road. Without it, she has no chance.

What if the chance of her leading an 'okay' life is quite small? What if by waiting for a miracle in medicine to cure her (and it would take just about a miracle), you were subjecting her to untold pain and suffering? I don't know if I'd be willing to wager my own daughter's suffering against a tiny possibility that she might get better...someday, after years more of agony.
 
Okay I could think of 100 better ways to kill a person who is that disabled and the police would never think twice about her death. I really think running exhaust fumes into the car was sort of a stupid move.
 
What if the chance of her leading an 'okay' life is quite small? What if by waiting for a miracle in medicine to cure her (and it would take just about a miracle), you were subjecting her to untold pain and suffering? I don't know if I'd be willing to wager my own daughter's suffering against a tiny possibility that she might get better...someday, after years more of agony.

I don't think there's any 'what if' about it. That's exactly the situation. The little girl in question was in such dire straits that no conceiveable medical progress in our lifetime could have made any significant difference.

Medical breakthroughs happen, but not on that scale, not by a longshot.
 
Hey, I don't expect you to change your mind about this, because I don't try to do that type of thing on CFC. However, I look at the potential. With life, she has potential to live okay somewhere down the road. Without it, she has no chance.
She had better potential as organ transplants.
 
We have the right to put those severely mentally handicapped people down. They can't live a life and probably don't understand anything anyway. Best send their particles or whatever on to the next deserving thing.
 
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