None Dare Call it Christian Terrorism

[Formaldehyde]

Only I have clearly shown any of that is simply not true, other than possibly the bit about "en-mass" whatever that is supposed to mean. And you just ignore the facts as a handful of others continue to do.

There are far more KKK members and sleepers than the al-Qaida had on September 11.2001. Fortunately, the FBI still has them thoroughly infiltrated, so they will likely not be able to pull off a large-scale terrorist attack as a group.

But that still doesn't mean their incessant hate crimes shouldn't be treated the very same way that similar attacks by Muslims are perceived.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

There is no mention of your "chums" there. Nor is there an explanation how you could have possibly discerned the innermost thoughts of a supposedly large number of white supremacist strangers you nonsensically claim to have just "met".

You did act "offended" in your very first absurd response in this thread.



And it obviously hasn't gotten any better as all your wacky allegations about the KKK and white supremacy were completely destroyed by obvious facts. And all you have been able to do is repeat the same opinions shown to be factually untrue while engaging in incessant personal attacks.

The only real question is why you are acting so "offended". Part of it is obviously the all-too-typical responses when I show your opinions have no factual basis by engaging in incessant comments about "videos" you should be too embarrassed to even remind people about. But there seems to be more here, which is what bhavv was asking about.

And the loop closes yet again.

You try to deny something happened, I provide links to where you did it. You wander for a while, then come back to denying that it ever happened. Perhaps if I made a screen capture video of scrolling through the thread where your use of videos was such an embarrassment to you you would recognize that it isn't going to go away just because you deny its existence. You could try taking responsibility for it instead of claiming that it never happened on a regular basis. That might actually work.

Now, as to my "acting offended"...if I was offended by anything at the time it was your blatant use of a flame baiting title that had no discernible connection to your opening post...this being something else that I have said consistently throughout this thread when you have insisted on circling back to it again and again.

Now, I'm going to wander off again while you go through these same loops with other people for a while. Hopefully when they get tired of it and the thread tries again to fade into merciful obscurity this time you won't try to turn it into an "Edited by Formy" newsfeed thread to keep it alive and we can all move on.

 

[Colonel]

Only I have clearly shown any of that is simply not true, other than possibly the bit about "en-mass" whatever that is supposed to mean. And you just ignore the facts as a handful of others continue to do.

You've given no evidence to prove that there is an "organized" KKK which continues to commit hate crimes en-mass. The reason you have given no evidence to prove that is because the KKK is no longer a national organization, each chapter has its own charter and adheres to slightly different ideologies. They might on individual basis still commit hate crimes but not an organized fashion such as a terrorist organization like Al'Qaeda did prior to its destruction.

 

[Formaldehyde]

And the loop closes yet again.

And you still haven't responded to how you know so much about your "chums".

And the rest of your silly incessant rhetoric was debunked long ago.

You've given no evidence to prove that there is an "organized" KKK which continues to commit hate crimes en-mass. The reason you have given no evidence to prove that is because the KKK is no longer a national organization, each chapter has its own charter and adheres to slightly different ideologies. They might on individual basis still commit hate crimes but not an organized fashion such as a terrorist organization like Al'Qaeda did prior to its destruction.

It obviously doesn't take a "national organization" which actually hasn't existed with the KKK for many decades now.

You really don't seem to know much at all about this virulent hate group which still commits numerous hate crimes. Acts which would be called "terrorism" if committed by Muslims.

The "evidence" has been presented in this thread. You just have to be willing to read it even if it does directly contradict your own preconceived notions.

 

[Colonel]

And you still haven't responded to how you know so much about your "chums".

It obviously doesn't take a "national organization" which actually hasn't existed with the KKK for many decades now.

You really don't seem to know much at all about this virulent hate group which still commits numerous hate crimes. Acts which would be called "terrorism" if committed by Muslims.

Again, the KKK as you are describing no longer exists. The 1980s and 90s saw the end of an organized Klan. They are now a bunch of small groups which hold no consistent ideology or intent. Thus they can not be considered a terrorist organization. Its the semantics of the definition but you are set to get another group labeled in with Islamic Terrorists which would be possible if you picked the correct group. I think however, your intent is more sinister then that. I think you want to paint a picture that Christians can be just the same as the Islamic Terrorists which simply isn't true.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

And you still haven't responded to how you know so much about your "chums".

Other than the first time I was asked, you are correct. No matter how many times you repeat the question after it has already been answered I am not going to be inclined to answer it again. Why should I?

 

[Formaldehyde]

Again, the KKK as you are describing no longer exists. The 1980s and 90s saw the end of an organized Klan. They are now a bunch of small groups which hold no consistent ideology or intent. Thus they can not be considered a terrorist organization. Its the semantics of the definition but you are set to get another group labeled in with Islamic Terrorists which would be possible if you picked the correct group. I think however, your intent is more sinister then that. I think you want to paint a picture that Christians can be just the same as the Islamic Terrorists which simply isn't true.

Again, it quite obviously does. What no longer exists is your preconceived notion of what you think it was at one time compared to now.

Spoiler :

Other than the first time I was asked, you are correct. No matter how many times you repeat the question after it has already been answered I am not going to be inclined to answer it again. Why should I?

Because you obviously have no answer, just as you have no answer for all the facts which have shown the nonsensical allegations you have made in this thread were just so many wacky falsehoods.

 

[brennan]

What's to discuss? The thread premise appears to be that people are only prepared to call terrorism religious when it is perpetrated by muslims. You shot yourself in the foot by using an example that is not a group most people associate primarily with Christian motivations. There's a wiki page on Christian terrorism, perhaps you could try a better example. Personally I find your original premise trite. I have no issues with declaring religiously motivated terrorism to be religiously motivated terrorism.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Again, the KKK as you are describing no longer exists. The 1980s and 90s saw the end of an organized Klan. They are now a bunch of small groups which hold no consistent ideology or intent. Thus they can not be considered a terrorist organization. Its the semantics of the definition but you are set to get another group labeled in with Islamic Terrorists which would be possible if you picked the correct group. I think however, your intent is more sinister then that. I think you want to paint a picture that Christians can be just the same as the Islamic Terrorists which simply isn't true.

Formy wants to take every loser who scrawls a "KKK" at a crime scene as evidence that the grand wizard is in personal control of every loser on the streets and whispering sweet scripture into their Christian ears. Disagree with him at your peril.

 

[Borachio]

Ooh look I found a video.

Link to video.

I'm now officially an expert.

Seriously, the KKK seems to be resurgent.

 

[Formaldehyde]

What's to discuss? The thread premise appears to be that people are only prepared to call terrorism religious when it is perpetrated by muslims. You shot yourself in the foot by using an example that is not a group most people associate primarily with Christian motivations. There's a wiki page on Christian terrorism, perhaps you could try a better example. Personally I find your original premise trite. I have no issues with declaring religiously motivated terrorism to be religiously motivated terrorism.

You really think even more patently absurd strawmen based on not even understanding the basic "premise" of this thread is going to change anything?

And ironically, that Wiki page on "Christian terrorism" highlights the KKK which I posted long ago. Perhaps you should try reading your own recommendation?

Seriously, the KKK seem to be resurgent.

Don't confuse them with the obvious facts already presented in this thread.

 

[kramerfan86]

its actually fairly normal for a terrorist organization to devolve into a deconstructed mass of independent cells. Im not quite sure how the KKK national organization falling apart means what the independent cells do excludes them from beings terrorists.

 

[brennan]

If i've got it wrong perhaps you could explain instead of ranting and getting personal.

 

[Formaldehyde]

its actually fairly normal for a terrorist organization to devolve into a deconstructed mass of independent cells. Im not quite sure how the KKK national organization falling apart means what the independent cells do excludes them from beings terrorists.

It's called "grasping at straws" when you have no facts to support your wacky allegations.

If i've got it wrong perhaps you could explain instead of ranting and getting personal.

Try just reading what you just cited. Then read the rest of this thread. And I take you also have no idea what the word "hypocrisy" means?

 

[Colonel]

its actually fairly normal for a terrorist organization to devolve into a deconstructed mass of independent cells. Im not quite sure how the KKK national organization falling apart means what the independent cells do excludes them from beings terrorists.

It doesn't necessarily however he is painting the entirety of everyone claiming to be in the KKK is part of a mass terrorist organization. Instead of what it truly is, small cells may be considered a terrorist organization but usually when those people committing those acts are caught we find out they belong to some other random hate group not necessarily aligned with the KKK.

I'm not saying the KKK is a good organization or anything but it is not a terrorist organization.

 

[Formaldehyde]

I am obviously "painting" it in no such way. That is the strawman you constructed because you thought it destroyed my non-existent argument.

And the experts clearly disagree with your personal opinion that it is not a "terrorist organization".

 

[brennan]

Was that directed at me Formy? I've no idea what allegations you are referring to. I have stated my case based upon consistent expression of my own opinions.

 

[Borachio]

I'm not saying the KKK is a good organization or anything but it is not a terrorist organization.

Well, does the KKK intend to terrorize people or not?

 

[brennan]

...my non-existent argument.

At last! Something we can all agree on.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Even more blatant hypocrisy? Gee, what a surprise.