None Shall Pass [Game Thread - Concluded]

[Arakhor]

For the record though, I'd completely forgotten that Takhisis was interested in you, Tommy. I'm sure it will be held against me though.

Also for the record, we've now taken out three LotR members since Camikaze's demise (including a no-lynch day). Don't you think it's time we stopped giving SW Cult a holiday and tried to remove them as well?

 

[Double A]

I prefer going droideka on people's arses, but sure.

I like rolling around too, but with a shotgun instead of a cheesy bubble shield.

 

[sirtommygunn]

It would make sense that once the godfather is down then they can't recruit. I'm assuming they can't because both cults went into complete murder mode as soon as they lost their leader, which is especially odd in Vader's case because conversion was the much more reliable option.

 

[sirtommygunn]

For the record though, I'd completely forgotten that Takhisis was interested in you, Tommy. I'm sure it will be held against me though.

Also for the record, we've now taken out three LotR members since Camikaze's demise (including a no-lynch day). Don't you think it's time we stopped giving SW Cult a holiday and tried to remove them as well?

I don't particularly care about disrupting Vader's comfort zone when killing LOTR cult is the more reliable option, as well as attacking the more dangerous group.

 

[sirtommygunn]

It is especially illogical to commit to going after the SW cult especially when the possibility for a double kill on SW players exists.

 

[KingMorgan]

We must hunt for Vadar today, pick a suspect.

 

[sirtommygunn]

And why must we hunt for Vader? To avoid hurting the LOTR town's feelings? Maybe if the LOTR cult kills a LOTR player tonight you'll have an argument for hunting Vader to preserve the balance, but from where I'm sitting SW is either going to be even to or lower than LOTR in numbers while LOTR will also have more cultists in it's ranks. There is absolutely no reason that we must commit to hunting Vader tomorrow, and every reason to commit to finding the Mouth of Sauron/Saruman

 

[Arakhor]

Technically it's still nighttime, Morgan.

 

[sirtommygunn]

Honestly it seems like LOTR cult is nervous about how fast it's losing numbers, and is playing the politics game to try to get the hunt away from them.

 

[Arakhor]

Or maybe it's just LotR townies concerned that SW will mass-lynch them when they have numerical superiority. Alternatively, you could still be Darth Vader trying to avoid attention being thrust on you. Hell, both could easily be true.

 

[spaceman98]

First of all, why would we hunt for Vader when the LOTR cult is still the more powerful cult faction? They get a kill a day with Mouth + Saruman, while Vader can only kill every other day (Injure then kill). Secondly, it's more likely we kill a LOTR cultist because there's a much higher cult/town ratio in the LOTR camp than there is in the SW camp.

Thirdly, what have I done to warrant suspicion as Vader? If I was cult, why would I have repeatedly talked down the idea of a townVtown war when a town war would be the best possible thing for a cultist? I have been playing for the SW town 100% of the way.

Also, why would you stress so much that you're in no way connected to the LOTR cult and then pick up right where Takhisis left off - trying to get a bandwagon going on me?

I'm still concerned that, after our cult (i.e. two more LOTRs) get killed off, you guys will just lynch us.

 

[spaceman98]

though that does largely depend on which side loses a member tonight, if any.

 

[sirtommygunn]

I'm still concerned that, after our cult (i.e. two more LOTRs) get killed off, you guys will just lynch us.

It is a fair concern to have once the LOTR cult lacks the numbers to kill every night, but right now we've got 2 people injured from last night and 2 cultists looking for kills. If anything, it's more likely that SW will be outnumbered after tonights deaths.

 

[sirtommygunn]

Or maybe it's just LotR townies concerned that SW will mass-lynch them when they have numerical superiority. Alternatively, you could still be Darth Vader trying to avoid attention being thrust on you. Hell, both could easily be true.

Except LOTR cult will kill SW to avoid giving their lynching power away so there is almost no chance that SW will gain the numbers required for your nightmare scenario.

 

[sirtommygunn]

On reflection, it's hilarious how LOTR are the ones who keep rolling out the "Establish numerical superiority and wipe out the SW town" plan and yet they're the ones who complain about how obviously the SW town are the ones planning to wipe out the LOTR town.

Hell, Spaceman publically talked about that very plan yesterday, and yet It's SW that's the big bad guy.

 

[Arakhor]

I have never claimed that that is the plan. I'm just straight-forward enough to admit that that is pretty much what one side will need to do eventually.

 

[spaceman98]

As far as I can see, the fairest proposal would be to lynch a member of whatever side does not lose a member tonight. In other words, if an SW dies, lynch an LOTR, if an LOTR dies, lynch an SW. If both sides lose equal numbers of players or neither loses players, lynch an SW, hence equalizing the numbers before next night. Rinse and repeat for the rest of the game

 

[KingMorgan]

I guess we wait for daybreak, see what the dawn brings us.

 

[azzaman333]

Mentioning that you think someone might be a cultist is trying to start a bandwagon? I just expressed an opinion: if I had any facts, I'd present them. I'd think I could at least be trusted on that. Besides which, LotR Cult would still want SW Cult dead, so Takhisis' opinions on the matter are hardly invalid.

Given that we don't know the exact sizes of the cults, claiming any sort of ratio at all is either misguided at best or verging on PIS. From what we've seen, 2/7 is higher than 1/8, I'll definitely grant you that, but maybe you want to talk to Azzaman, since that he's so sure that the LotR Cult can't reproduce any more.

I'm pretty sure I've never claimed to be certain that LotR cult can't reproduce any more.

 

[spaceman98]

I'm pretty sure I've never claimed to be certain that LotR cult can't reproduce any more.

If LOTR cult can still reproduce, why not SW cult? And why haven't we seen any "new faces"?