NOTW XXXIX: Impending Retribution Game Thread

[God Emperor]

So DE was the alignment he was expected to be. . Disapointed in the people who continued to add more votes on him.. They should be looked at more closely

The party was held because it was a PG and nothing more. . If you didn't wanted it to inferfere with the townie plans, then you should have taken contact with either landlubber or myself and inform us.. but that didn't exactly happen Renata and Methos.. Landlubber and myself are not to be blamed for this.

 

[Zack]

The party was held because it was a PG and nothing more. . If you didn't wanted it to inferfere with the townie plans, then you should have taken contact with either landlubber or myself and inform us.. but that didn't exactly happen Renata and Methos.. Landlubber and myself are not to be blamed for this.

Of course you are. (OOC: And you just did the party for a PG, without even putting PG in OOC tags?? Oh yeah, let's get our Personal Goals over with, who cares if we leaved the ship defenseless and in disrepair because of it??!!)

 

[God Emperor]

The party was announced in the day phase so if anyone had other plans they should have spoken with either myself or Landlubber.. it was not time the people in charge of repairs needed..

 

[Takhisis]

Askthepizzaguy, the reason I think people were more trigger happy yesterday than normal was that we knew putting someone in the brig tonight wasn't going to do us any good because of the party. That and many of us genuinely thought Diamondeye was going to be a rogue or saboteur. The party had good intentions, but horrible timing.

What about this?

Spoiler :

Diamondeye should be executed tonight, not put in the brig, and that's for a reason independent of the case against him, sprig, or anyone. I've already suggested this to some in private, but this would go whoever our top vote-getter was, because if we go straight to the next day and nothing happens at night due to this party, we're stuck with exactly no new information by putting someone in the brig. Then we'd essentially be wasting a day of voting and having to decide to imprison or execute again tomorrow. So if we intend to execute anyone, today OR tomorrow, we should do it today and then we'll have feedback and can consider our course of action tomorrow.

Then there's just the fact that Diamondeye has also not answered for any of the things that make him a suspected rogue, his case above was pretty empty, so I'm still entirely sure he must answer for his wrongdoings. It's the best case we've had so far and all the evidence points to Diamondeye's crimes as much as we could ever expect to get evidence on anyone.

If you insist on using the vote on the sacks of potatoes, use the brig, do not execute.

Leave them potatoes alone!

NEIN! My sick bay! My BEAUTIFUL SICK BAY! There's vater in it now! It's going to start to SMELL if it reaches the cadavers! UGH!

Are ju or arr ju not ze foreign deeplomat ze ambassador varned us avout, Doktor Szeon?

The party was held because it was a PG and nothing more. . If you didn't wanted it to inferfere with the townie plans, then you should have taken contact with either landlubber or myself and inform us.. but that didn't exactly happen Renata and Methos.. Landlubber and myself are not to be blamed for this.

What? Because it was a PG? lamest excuse ever. {fos: God Emperor, landlubber}

You knew we could have hosted that party later on to stop the scum instead of peacefully allowing them to hide in the DE bandwagon and then continuing the same heated discussions.

 

[CCRunner]

Am I the only one thinking that the diplomatic... "tension" is caused by the death of DE ?

I feel like DE would have mentioned something if it was him... I read it as a side effect of having the party... sort of an unintended consequence for us getting closer to port with no deaths. Since we were all accounted for last night, nobody would have been able to sneak off and send dispatches to the other ship... Granted that is probably hopelessly optimistic and we should immediatly prepare for the worst... honestly, I mostly just think it just wasn't diamondeye, maybe somebody that got murdered the night before is the true cause now that I think about it. Not that it really matters.

So DE was the alignment he was expected to be. . Disapointed in the people who continued to add more votes on him.. They should be looked at more closely

I'd hardly say we expected him to be innocent... if that was true, we wouldn't have voted to execute him so overwhelmingly.

The party was held because it was a PG and nothing more. . If you didn't wanted it to inferfere with the townie plans, then you should have taken contact with either landlubber or myself and inform us.. but that didn't exactly happen Renata and Methos.. Landlubber and myself are not to be blamed for this.

Saying it was a just a goal does not exonerate you completely... the fact remains though that nobody could have predicted this... well, sprig did I guess, but it was to late at that point... so I would agree with your final point saying you can't be 100% blamed for this. I'd remind everyone in the interest of unity, that landlubber and God Emperor weren't alone in wanting to hold a party last night. Instead I believe we should focus elsewhere... Autolycus's particular non-committal attitude interests me. Looking back at whenever he's speaking, he would appear to take both sides in most arguments, plus a tendency to go with the safe condemnation of the less talkative among us... I think it may be indicative of something worth spending a night in the brig over.

 

[choxorn]

"So why aren't we throwing sprig in the brig?"

I could say the same about you, Nictel. So why did the Rogues kill more people when you weren't in the brig, exactly?

Also, Zack, classical, what makes you so sure that Blackstone is innocent? He still needs to answer the question of who asked him to promote TFA, and give us a damn good reason why he keeps avoiding the question.

 

[Backwards Logic]

That message from some sort of foreign diplomat could point to Seon…

Are ju or arr ju not ze foreign deeplomat ze ambassador varned us avout, Doktor Szeon?

((GM Note: Write ups do not serve any purpose other than to illustrate in-game events. They do not provide clues to who's who and clues should not be inferred from them. For what it's worth, portions of the last write-up were written well in advance, before Seon started roleplaying as a German Doctor. As I had a lot else to write in a short period of time, I wasn't about to change what I had due to various player roleplay. My apologies for any confusion)).

 

[Frozen In Ice]

Yes Takhisis, I was reiterating what Earthling said because he said it best. Also I want Duke Blackstone to reveal who wanted him to promote TFA.

 

[Zack]

Also, Zack, classical, what makes you so sure that Blackstone is innocent? He still needs to answer the question of who asked him to promote TFA, and give us a damn good reason why he keeps avoiding the question.

He gave a damn good reason in private, which I obviously will not repeat here.

And Duke made it quite clear that he is never going to reveal who made the request; he's taking the secret to the grave.

 

[Renata]

You knew we could have hosted that party later on to stop the scum instead of peacefully allowing them to hide in the DE bandwagon and then continuing the same heated discussions.

Not really. The rogues would have had every interest in seeing one or the other of them dead, presumably, before the party happened. Later wasn't really an option once the pair of them made their public claim.

 

[Renata]

I'd hardly say we expected him to be innocent... if that was true, we wouldn't have voted to execute him so overwhelmingly.

Not having brought myself up to speed on most of yesterday yet I hesitate to ask, but God Emperor, CCRunner is absolutely correct here. "Expected to be innocent?" Point me to the argument on that you gave before we strung him up, or expect me to believe you are just trying (badly) to gain brownie points by supporting the cause of the dead and loyal.

 

[God Emperor]

What? Because it was a PG? lamest excuse ever. {fos: God Emperor, landlubber}

You knew we could have hosted that party later on to stop the scum instead of peacefully allowing them to hide in the DE bandwagon and then continuing the same heated discussions.

read through this post 3 times now to see if I could find out what you are talking about..
what has the party to do with the blind bandwagon on DE ?
As far as I understood, the problem was that the repair guys didn't do their job because of it ?


I have the feeling that my argument has gone a bit unnoticed.. so I will list it again just for the sakes of being clear (though I read your post CC Runner )..
I have no cool powers or abilities or anything.. but I have a pg I can do something about.. so naturally I will try to solve this pg, as I don't have much else to focus on with my low rank.. Now Landlubber and I publicly anounce durring the day that we will prepare a party in the night. .

So far so good.

I suspect that knowledge of what the party is actually doing has been spread as people seem well aware about it, and does not ask me any questions about that part.

EVERYONE allows the party to happen as no one bothers to try and stop it..
So a day after the party has been held it hits Renata and Methos 'Hey why did he allow that party to happen !' and adds me on the suspect list.. Though I am not in the line of being lynched, the lack of thought behind this accusation hits me..

We know it's publicly announced in the day and we know Renata and Methos are in contact with the repair guys.. that means we can boil this down to two things.
1) either Methos and Renata are not the genuinly concerned about the ships well being and so they wait until after the party to cast blame
2) They did not foresee this , and if so they shouldn't begin casting blame for lacking the foresight they lacked themselves.

So please Takhasis.. elaborate two things.. Why are my reasons so lame that they deserve FOS'ing (or are you just joining the accusation mob without reason?)
and how are my actions concerned the party in any way related to a blind lynch on DE ?

 

[God Emperor]

Not having brought myself up to speed on most of yesterday yet I hesitate to ask, but God Emperor, CCRunner is absolutely correct here. "Expected to be innocent?" Point me to the argument on that you gave before we strung him up, or expect me to believe you are just trying (badly) to gain brownie points by supporting the cause of the dead and loyal.

I, throughout the whole case on DE, expected him to turn out innocent.. that was why I argued against a lynch, as the reason appeared to me as being foolish.
I am a little uncertain what you want though.. do you wish me to fetch quotes a few pages back, or are you saying that something is wrong because I was right about DE.. (? I don't understand your post completely)

 

[classical_hero]

Yes Takhisis, I was reiterating what Earthling said because he said it best. Also I want Duke Blackstone to reveal who wanted him to promote TFA.

More than likely it could have been Secura, but she is innocent and will supply me some tool's to help repair this ship.

 

[Renata]

I, throughout the whole case on DE, expected him to turn out innocent.. that was why I argued against a lynch, as the reason appeared to me as being foolish.
I am a little uncertain what you want though.. do you wish me to fetch quotes a few pages back, or are you saying that something is wrong because I was right about DE.. (? I don't understand your post completely)

No, it just means I'll have to go back to the video tape and see what arguments you made on his behalf. (I was saying that your comment, in isolation, looks a lot like the "well, goodness, you/we suck for killing that OBVIOUSLY innocent person" thing that is so often heard from the guilty at heart.)

 

[Earthling]

Somebody directly asked yesterday, in the morning too I believe, if we could stop the party by locking up landlubber or God Emperor or something similar, and the answer given was "no." Now, I still am not personally too upset at this party, it could have been worse or could have been a lost opportunity, but I don't see how anyone else "failed to stop it." In other words I was under the impression that during Night Two, God Emperor and landlubber set up the party and it couldn't be stopped after Night Two was over, so that would be before all the voting on Day Three. If we were misled and one of you could have sent in an order to hold off on the party during Day Three at any point I'd be a little peeved.

In another matter, I really would like to know more about what some of the ranks do. For instance, robbiecon mentions some repair related ability he can't use? choxorn, how does that relate to what you said was your goal of becoming Chief Warrant Officer Five - seems oddly specific doesn't it?

I also must question something about the late Commander Diamondeye - it contributed to my vote for him in part and I still don't see an explanation, unless he was the one Renata mentioned who had "two abilities" but why that didn't come up yesterday is another concern. So...

I was under the impression he was involved in that helicopter repair on Night One, right? If he was doing that, how was able to item scan in the same night - even if all he did was "hold the door open" for our repairman my understanding was that would take up the ability slot? If instead the Commander position itself grants serious or multiple rank/extra abilities we might want to consider that before promoting another low-level recruit or sailor there over everybody's heads.

Lastly I think I'd rather see someone in the brig today too than hang them given what just happened, so my vote on choxorn is only tentative, I'm not calling for execution at least. I agree we need to all take some times to think and reason through things today.

"I'm off for some more work on translating documents to Pirate language to benefit some of the crew, be in touch on that..."

 

[Renata]

I don't remember ever mentioning anything about someone with two abilities to you, Earthling.

 

[Renata]

Oh, you mean what I said publicly a few days ago. Never mind.

(You can hold a door for someone and also use a personal ability, as long as there isn't a location conflict. You can't let someone into the Hangar on the same night you're repairing the conduit in Navigation, for example.)

 

[Earthling]

Was that something clarified (OOC: in the rules) for everyone or something that some people are personally able to do? I had thought you were saying it was only certain people or certain ways someone could gain a "dual ability use."

If this:

(You can hold a door for someone and also use a personal ability, as long as there isn't a location conflict.

goes for everyone that's news to me, I didn't think that was clear at all, I would have thought they would only be able to hold the door open and do something in/to the compartment, not to other people elsewhere on the ship.

Like the rough example you said "going to the Bridge and then shooting Backwards Logic (who could be anywhere on the ship?) on the same night" is an exception to the general sailor's capabilities right?

 

[Earthling]

Ok I guess a double post as I want to be clear, in both cases using JUST the personal/universal abilities

The below is obviously possible, we already knew that:

"Hold a door open and do a personal ability related to that compartment"

Is this also what you're saying is possible, for everyone or just for some people?

"Hold a door open and go do something to another person, but not another place, anywhere on the ship"

And I'd still think we might all like to know how this added up with Diamondeye's Commander position, would be nice if the new Commander can share a little about what they can do if there is something odd.