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One small step for man, one giant leap backwards for mankind

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Grishnash, Nov 28, 2008.

  1. Bigfoot3814

    Bigfoot3814 Deity

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    OK sure. It's just that space exploration costs so much money and usually they don't find very much.
     
  2. Quiet Sound

    Quiet Sound - This title left blank -

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    Everyone? If you'll just note Grishnash's title I think it becomes clear that this is just a case of sour grapes over not having his own moonbase.
     
  3. Sharwood

    Sharwood Rich, doctor nephew

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    You're just saying that because you haven't been let in on the big secret: All the chimps they sent into space came back superintelligent. Keep it on the QT, would you?
     
  4. Bigfoot3814

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    Dumbass, everybody knows all the chimps they send into space end up in the future on the Planet of The Apes.
     
  5. ThePrussian

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    We don't wanna bear the cost of space exploration. The most effecient means of moving around in space consists of nuclear bomb propulstion, with it we could get a cryo ship to the nearest star at around .5c for a one way ticket of several years here on earth, maybe more taking into account time dilation.

    But nuclear is evil, must be exterminated! Must never be used. We could get to the moon in a lot less time and to Mars in a few days if I remember correctly.
     
  6. MobBoss

    MobBoss Off-Topic Overlord

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  7. bhsup

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    That's a good flick! I remember watching that ages ago, and then it was on just a few months ago on AMC. The very idea of a death 'squad' scouring the desert trying to shoot Brolin (an astronaut) in America just cracks me up!
     
  8. Winner

    Winner Diverse in Unity

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    Money. Huge costs, few incentives.

    Russians didn't have the money and once the Americans got there first, there was no reason why to waste insane amounts of money in a race which had already been lost.
     
  9. Yeekim

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    I'd have loved to hear his reasoning how electric devices actually work then...
    :rolleyes:
     
  10. emzie

    emzie wicked witch of the North

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    Magic. Touching a high voltage line in itself won't shock you. Look at how birds land on them and squirrels run across them. Touching a high voltage line and anything else, like the ground, the poll, another wire, that will not end well for you.
     
  11. JtheJackal

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    This is what frustrates me about so many conspiracy theories is that I don't actually need physical proof of anything when logic disproves it outright
     
  12. ThePrussian

    ThePrussian Warlord

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    The cost of falsifying it would be equal to the cost of going to the moon. Think of all the people that would be involved in such a conspiracy. Where are the whistle-blowing insiders?

    The easy answer is that we actually did it. We actually launched three men on a journey to an extraplanetary body, landed on it, explored it and brought things back home.

    Some people cannot accept that. A dead family-member said God would never have allowed it, made us too prideful in ourselves, He would send a calamity like He did with the Tower of Babel.

    It is just like those who believe in the supreme competence of government and thus the only answer to something like 9/11 is an inside job or government allowed it to happen. A lot of the same conspiracy theories was thrown around about Pearl Harbor, including that Navy carried out the air-strike on Pearl.
     
  13. LightFang

    LightFang "I'm the hero!"

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    We watched a documentary on FOX about whether or not the moon landings were a hoax. The documentary said: yes.

    Out of the entire class of Theory of Knowledge students (this is like some philosophy class--or more precisely epistemology), I was the only one not taken in by its inherent bull poop.
     
  14. Winner

    Winner Diverse in Unity

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    Oh Christ, this is ridiculous. The astronauts left some laser-mirrors there, it's pretty easy to check if they're there. Plus, as somebody mentioned, other things left there are visible through powerful telescopes.
     
  15. Gooblah

    Gooblah Heh...

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    I would say solar sails are a LOT more efficient. Nuclear bombs would first have to be built, and when used in a spacecraft there must be someway of containing the explosion (or at least focusing it). Current nuclear stockpiles are aging
     
  16. ThePrussian

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    Solar sails are one way, like canvas sails were back in the day. And I bet the solar winds can be calmed like atmospheric winds were back in the day. Nevermind that one would have to have a fairly substantial knowledge of solar wind currents which would always change with planetary movements.

    Orion propulsion drops a .33Kt thermonuclear weapon behind the ship which when it detonates plasma hits a shock-absorbing pusher-plate which imparts velocity to the craft.

    There was a lot of research on it. They theorized that a ship with about 3000 weapons could get very close to the speed of light. How fast could a solar-wind space-craft get up to?

    A launch of a multi-million ton interstellar capable craft from earth surface would be reguire roughly a megaton worth of thermonuclear weaponry and if we get fusion weapons then it'd be extremely clean. The only problem is not to be staring at the space-craft as it launches.

    They did small scale experiments with conventional explosives and it worked.
     
  17. Gogf

    Gogf Indescribable

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    I can't even begin to explain how ridiculous I think this attitude is. Do you also think we should get rid of foreign aid because "the money could be better spent here"?
     
  18. emzie

    emzie wicked witch of the North

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    Wikipedia has an article on everything, it seems

    Only thing listed that sounds believable:

    Of course, I don't believe this either.
     
  19. Syterion

    Syterion Voodoo Economist

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTKedyQQkZQ&feature=related
     
  20. Syterion

    Syterion Voodoo Economist

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    The REAL conspiracy:

    What NO ONE wants you to see

    What the US GOVERNMENT DOESNT WANT YOU TO FIND OUT

    WHAT THEYVE BEEN HIDING FOR YEARS and even SCHOOLCHILDREN have been SHOT and KILLED and SCOLDED and been given TIMEOUTS for thinking it

    If you want to know the SHOCKING TRUTH, scroll DOWN

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    They tell you the moon is a large chunk of rock "orbiting" the "Earth." But what they don't tell you, that myriad scientific studies tell us now, is that the MOON is made of CHEESE.

    Why don't they tell us this? Because they can't let it out. The government is intentionally keeping quiet the biggest foodsource not on this planet so they can intentionally starve its people. If the cheese is harvested, world hunger is OVER, the economy will BOOM, and people will be HAPPY. It will be a UTOPIA. But they don't let this happen.

    Write your representative today demanding that the moon's cheese stores be harvested! Do your part to SAVE THE WORLD NOW!
     

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