PH02: Eight Angry Men

[frankcor]

Isn't it amazing how 2 people can read the same conversation and come up with completely different conclusions? Heh, I didn't see how we'll pop anything but Great Scientists for a long time to come.

I forgot to mention, we need one more University to build Oxford U. It should be finished next turn.

 

[pholkhero]

i see fox only saves his for me when i make mistakes

alright, Munter's got it and there's a roster several posts up so i'll forego that for now.

oh, munter, i've you've got time in the next couple days, I'm gonna skip this week on JR01, so if Monlthire (or Punkpepo) can make an appearance, all the better.

 

[GreyFox]

No, I only those who play before I do ...

 

[Munterpipe]

Steel is done in one turn.
We have quite some grenadiers to use.
Our last universities are coming in soon

I decide to keep research at 0% for a while to let us upgrade our city raider maces. Catapults are usually no use upgrading, since they won't do much more colateral damage as cannons anyway. And it costs twice as much as upgrading maces to grennies anyway.

Also, having cash on hand can be a lifesaver. If a galley lands somewhere with a couple of rifles, two upgraded longbows will be enough to hold a city untill reinforcements come. ( I later found out that longbows don't upgrade to grenadiers or musketmen. Only crossbowmen do that.)

1: Steel comes in, we enter the industrial age, and universities are done.

Start CANNONS!

I very early decided not to declare on Monty during my turns. A massive assalt by Pholk during his turns would be just right.

But look what happened:

first:

then:

The loss of our workers are a bit hard to take. We'll take them back soon.

I immediately move in our two SODs. And take out those cats.

turn 9: Monty's units land in the west, and I foresee no trouble there.

Our SOD at düsseldorf is attacked but no losses!

turn 10: Our SOD at Calix is attacked. Heavily this time, and we lose some grenadiers.

Now, I made GreyFox a promise and I intend to keep it. Let the attck on GreyFoxTown begin!

A cat attacks and withdraws!
Another cat attacks and dies.
A cannon attacks and withdraws!
Now our pinch grenadiers have almost 90% chance of sucsess when attacking!

Charge!

GreyFoxTown is taken! Huzzah!

 

[Munterpipe]

Thinking about this, I figure out that GFT will probably be taken back next turn, and I can't leave that for Pholkhero so I gotta do one more turn to straighten things up.

11: The bastards take GFT back! Sorry about that.


And Cologne is in a little bit of trouble as well:


That's a smart landing by Monty.
I use my turn to wipe out most of the defenses in GFT but without taking it.

Next player can do so, but I'll advice against that. My advice shouldn't be trusted, though since I've made some pretty bad calls this set. The situation at Cologne is under control. They won't take the city, but we will suffer losses. A grenadier can be whipped there, and others can be brought in soon enough to hold the city, but that was close.

Our forces outside Calix are standing strong, but could use some reinforcements before they can take the city. Our defences are thin, though, so consider moving some of the attack forces back to enforce our city defense. I am looking forward to the next report from this war.

And greyfox, here's your banks as well:

 

[pholkhero]

Phew, i'm up in ANOTHER SG ~ i think that's 3 now. I probably won't have time tonight to play since i'd like to be able to focus.

Is this whole report the save? :shakeshead: you weren't drinking again were you SS (Sauced Scandinavian)??

 

[Munterpipe]

Drinking on a Thursday!? You're out of your mind!

 

[Lobsterboy]

Any chance that Julius will join the War with us?

 

[Munterpipe]

IIRC he does lack steel, but he "doesn't like us enough" to consider attacking Monty.

 

[pholkhero]

Okay, i played last night, but had no time to post.

However, a quick report:
Biz delcared on us ~ for soem reason, but only sent 2 grens at us. Monty landed another stack to our west, but that was easily disposed of. in the end though, GFT is ours again, as is...uh...that other city to the north...calixitsname ~ monty has infantry but my guess is that his army is pretty tapped out at this point.

Full report to come this afternoon.

 

[Munterpipe]

Sounds great, except for the infantry part.

 

[pholkhero]

yeah, they upgraded just as I was about to take Calix...but, there's was only 3 infrantry there. I used up our cats, and a couple canons, but with enough back-up siege weapons, we could continue the push northward...or make peace and clear out Biz.

the bottom line is i'm not sure HOW we're going to win this (unless by time). Mao has Oil hooked up, too!

 

[Lobsterboy]

Infantry?!? Ugh. Can we continue to press the attack with just Cannon and Grennies? Sounds iffy.

If we can't continue the attack, we should at least try to pillage Monty's land all to hell to slow down his rebuilding.

I always get pissed off at how fast the AIs pop techs. None of these guys should be particularly friendly with each other, so the tech trading should be minimal.

 

[pholkhero]

well, as i said, i think Monty's out of steam as far as his army goes. If we come in with enough canons, we should be okay.

 

[frankcor]

Definitely canon and grenadiers can handle Infantry. I've won many wars with just that matchup. In one SG, we beat Marines & Infantry with canon, riflemen and grenadiers. We just gotta keep pumping them out to replace our losses.

Edit: ooops, now it's my turn to step all over Pholkhero's post.

 

[GreyFox]

Again, I am not too worried about winning ... I will really be surprised (dismayed more like it) if we don't win this. As I say, given time, we would definitely out-research and out-produce everyone else by our sheer size ... so long as we pay a bit of attention to economy and stop being so obsessed with military actions!!!

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[frankcor]

Obsessed? That's a rather harsh assessment, wouldn't you say?

Now, we return you to our regularly scheduled war.

 

[Munterpipe]

Again, I am not too worried about winning ... I will really be surprised (dismayed more like it) if we don't win this. As I say, given time, we would definitely out-research and out-produce everyone else by our sheer size ... so long as we pay a bit of attention to economy and stop being so obsessed with military actions!!!

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I wish I had your confidence. If Mao or (more likely) Toku comes after us, I can't see how we'll survive. When we catch up in tech, we'll research future tech 5. (I'm so scared) I wish I had listened to you earlier and not pissed these guys off more than we had to.

 

[pholkhero]

Okay, my report will now have less effect, but here is a collection of pictures from my latest escapades ~

Here's our defense at the nearest cities to Germany:

Nice ~ here's a cat killing one of our CGII Longbows:

It took several upgrades and was a bit dicey at first, but we successfully fended off the attack onto this city.

Here's me and Mao, trying to cajole oil from him:

He wants 3 resource plus 130gpt!

I have our workers starting on a watermill on this tile . . . good thing the blue circles were turned on!

Here's Athens ~ notice the lack of development on several (too many) tiles!

Here's Monty's 2nd landing, west of the central front.

Nice! Our knight is taking out Monty's rifleman!!

Darwin is born in Athens ~ he's slumbering peacefully there. He can finish Sci Method, but perhaps we should merge him?

Here is Biz's invasion force 7 turns later:

It was that gren adn another cat up north, and just the single gren down south.

The taking of Calix...

And our army awaiting orders:

I think some of them are missing, but you get the gist of it.

 

[pholkhero]

We could probably have 2 or 3 cities still focus on military, while the rest head for economic improvements, and still be able to annex most of Azteca and cripple Monty for good.

I don't *think* we'll get dogpiled, but you never know, esp as Toku hates us, and even JC is Cautious now that he's swapped religions. However, i don't know that we'd be able to survive a single war against one of the more powerful AI's anyway.

Here's the Roster and save:
Frank >
Munter >
Pholk > just played
Fox > UP NOW
Lobster > on deck