Random Rants LXIV: Who's Acting Like a Child Now?

[gay_Aleks]

stupid crap rain screw you

 

[Daw]

stupid crap rain screw you

It's going to be over soon. It has stopped here already, just hold on there.

 

[Arakhor]

It was chucking it down last night for a good long while: full-on stair-rods as well.

 

[The_J]

Seems yesterday a pipe broke in my basement and flooded it .
No real damage, but cleaning up the mess and dealing with the housing agency is not exactly enjoyable :/.

 

[Takhisis]

Hmm, so your superpower comes in the form of pills, eh? Interesting.

You must be speaking from experience, so what are you deriving from little pills?

 

[gay_Aleks]

Only curing headaches, I'm afraid.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Trying to learn coding really tests my patience. Spent the last hour desparing and questioning my sanity because I couldn't find a typo.

 

[gay_Aleks]

join me in the to-be-unemployed historian club

 

[warpus]

Two nights ago I had some sort of a nightmare and I woke up. As soon as I opened my eyes I saw ceiling cat or something similar staring at me from my ceiling. Yeah, you read that right, I saw an opening in my ceiling and a cat sticking its head out and it was staring at me.

I jumped out of bed, turned on the lights, and.. nothing. Stupid dreams

 

[Snerk]

 

[Takhisis]

Nothing wrong with dreaming of cats.

 

[Phrossack]

join me in the to-be-unemployed historian club

You ought to pursue a career in translation, interpretation, and/or English teaching. You're still in high school but speak fluent English. That's in high demand.

 

[Takhisis]

If he becomes a translator or English teacher he will be even further along the road to full Takhification.

 

[Commodore]

Getting a little irritated at all the fools talking about Ichiro breaking Pete Rose's hit record. Why does it irritate me? Because they are including his hits from when he played in Japan. Sorry all you Rose haters out there, hits from any other league outside of MLB, including the minor leagues, do not get counted toward your MLB career stats. So counting Ichiro's MLB hits (2,977), he's not even close to breaking Rose's record of 4,256 hits.

Now I know some of you are going to say his hits from when he played in Japan should count, but there is a very simple reason why they don't. It's the same reason MLB doesn't count minor league hits: the level of competition simply is not on par with the level of competition in MLB so it's easier for a player to inflate their stats in the Japanese leagues.

But if you really want to count Ichiro's Japanese league hits, then we have to include Rose's minor league hits as well out of fairness. That adds another 427 hits to his total putting him at 4,683 career hits. Sorry Ichiro, you are still 426 hits away from breaking Rose's record.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Rose is banned. His records don't count anymore...

As I say this I am reminded of being in Ohio as a kid and my relatives getting into a literal fist fight and people being spat upon... indoors... and people going out to their trunks to get pistols... and my Dad having to go outside and threaten to have people killed, if they didn't put their pistols away and go back inside... all over a Pete Rose argument... so I know how serious this is to Ohioans, don't get mad

 

[Commodore]

Rose is banned. His records don't count anymore...

Did MLB get the memo on this? Because they still officially count him as the record holder for most career hits. They also still only list Ichiro as having 2,977 career hits, so it looks like the only people that matter agree with my logic.

 

[choxorn]

Much as I love Ichiro, I agree that if you count his Japan hits towards his total you have to at least count Rose's hits in the high minors, if not his entire career. It would be an interesting what if to ask how many hits Ichiro would have gotten if he'd been playing a few more years in America and come over in say, 1994 or 95 instead of 2001, but that's just a what if, it's not what happened.

As to the ban, I don't think baseball has ever voided any stats because of a ban, and in any case, there's no real evidence he was gambling on baseball until after he retired as a player, so what does it matter?

 

[choxorn]

Upon looking at Rose's stats on baseball reference, he played two seasons in class D (equivalent of Rookie level today) and one in class A. You can make arguments about what that counts for and how to compare across eras, but there's no way the Japanese Leagues aren't way better than at least class D/Rookie level, and they're probably also better than class A, probably more like AA-AAA or so. Certainly not at the level of MLB, though, so it's still pretty hard to compare by just adding stats across multiple leagues like that.

 

[Commodore]

Upon looking at Rose's stats on baseball reference, he played two seasons in class D (equivalent of Rookie level today) and one in class A. You can make arguments about what that counts for and how to compare across eras, but there's no way the Japanese Leagues aren't way better than at least class D/Rookie level, and they're probably also better than class A, probably more like AA-AAA or so. Certainly not at the level of MLB, though, so it's still pretty hard to compare by just adding stats across multiple leagues like that.

The reason I say we should add Rose's minor league stats if we are going to add Ichiro's Japanese stats is because of the argument the pro-Ichiro crowd is making. They are saying his Japanese stats should be counted because that is still technically professional-level baseball and all professional stats should be counted when determining career stats. If that's the argument they are going to make, then they have to accept that minor league baseball in the US is also, technically, professional-level baseball as well. That means minor league stats have to be counted, which gives Rose a 426 all-time hit lead over Ichiro.

 

[The_J]

The date yesterday evening went nice, talked the whole time, she doesn't look terrible (had not seen a good picture before)...but I'm not feeling it.
Why? Why? Why?