Random Thoughts 2: Arbitrary Speculations

[Valka D'Ur]

I think my browsing habits are predictable.

I only spend time on one of those sites.

Says the one with 17k more posts than me.

You'd have more if your post count from the vBulletin serial threads and the staff forum was restored.

 

[Ryika]

New steam chat has been released and the comments on the announcement are full of whiners who cry about wanting back the old chat. Who could have seen THAT comming? That's not typical behavior for the steam community _at all_!

 

[Takhisis]

The Huns were in Europe...as in HUNgary

This post offends me in an almost completely unmanageable way.

They should've just stuck with Xiongnu which is one of the coolest names ever

Nobody knows how to pronounce that X except Owen, TF and the population of China, man.

I think my browsing habits are predictable.

My own list right now: 9 CFC URLs, 1 from wikipedia (linked to in a CFC thread).

I think you're also spending too much time on the 'net.

After spending three days without checking emails, forum inboxes or Facebook, I cannot be sure whether there is such a thing as too much time on the 'net.

A question to the native English speakers here:

Violence against women and girls encompasses (but is not limited to):

[...]

• commercial sexual exploitation, including prostitution, lap dancing, stripping, pornography and trafficking

Does this imply to you that the act of stripping for money is "violence against women", or does it imply that forcing a woman to strip for ones own financial gain is violence against her?

It seems to imply the former to me (by defining the act of being paid for doing these actions as "commercial sexual exploitation), but maybe that's just me misinterpreting the text?

Both! Stripping is commercialised objectification of a woman. The handler at a stripper bar is very much a pimp.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

commercialised objectification = violence?

 

[Ryika]

Apparently. I have read a bit more about it since I asked yesterday, and it appears to be a rather common idea in today's "establishment feminism". Ironic how they've come full circle, from a movement that once advocated for women's rights on the basis of personal freedom to now arguing AGAINST women's rights on the basis of theoretical consequences to the group of a whole.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Trying to decide if I should to eat something.
Had to work longer than expected and didn't bring any food because my planned shift was too short for a lunch break and I didn't want to get something more expensive and unhealthy.
I'm still trying to do the intermittent fasting thing and haven't eaten anything since breakfast at 7am (it's now 9pm). On the one hand, my last meal was already 14 hours ago which is an acceptable, but not optimal time between meals (and I'm hungry), on the other hand, if I don't eat today It will extend the fasting period to 24+ hours and I'll sleep better.

 

[Lexicus]

if I don't eat today It will extend the fasting period to 24+ hours and I'll sleep better.

That is weird to me. Over the last few years I've noticed I cannot fall asleep if I feel at all hungry, no matter how tired I am. It's very annoying sometimes.

 

[Synobun]

That is weird to me. Over the last few years I've noticed I cannot fall asleep if I feel at all hungry, no matter how tired I am. It's very annoying sometimes.

Same here, but this probably has to do with the fact that hunger feels like a hollow drill burrowing into my innards than the actual hunger.

I eat bread right before sleeping nowadays. Used to love intermittent fasting but I just can't do it anymore.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

That is weird to me. Over the last few years I've noticed I cannot fall asleep if I feel at all hungry, no matter how tired I am. It's very annoying sometimes.

It was the same for me for a long time, but now I've gotten used to it. I'm now much more likely to wake ip in the mddle of the night if I eat late.
That probably won't make much of a difference. It's so hot today that I won't sleep well anyway.

I eat bread right before sleeping nowadays. Used to love intermittent fasting but I just can't do it anymore.

Bread is The Devil and should be avoided.

 

[Lexicus]

I eat bread right before sleeping nowadays. Used to love intermittent fasting but I just can't do it anymore.

Yeah, if I'm feeling hungry before I bed I just eat some quick carbs, maybe a glass of milk, and that usually makes me feel fine and able to fall asleep.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Screw that, I'm now eating The Devil with cream cheese, chopped olives and ham.

 

[Takhisis]

commercialised objectification = violence?

Yyyup.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Yyyup.

Nope, not unless coercion is involved.

 

[Takhisis]

Given that you've recently absorbed the Lord of Evil as per post #931, I am going to ignore that post.

 

[Ryika]

Well, I stand corrected:

Violence
5 - The creation of profit through the commercialization of sexuality
"By agreeing to work in a strip club, she committed violence against herself."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/violence

 

[Manfred Belheim]

Nope, not unless coercion is involved.

Well even then it's not violence. Not all bad things are violence. And not all non-violent things are good. We have words other than violence to describe bad things. "Coercion" being a good example actually.

 

[Traitorfish]

And not all non-violent things are good. We have words other than violence to describe bad things. "Coercion" being a good example actually.

"Coercion" surely implies the threat of violence, however latent?

 

[Ryika]

"Coercion" surely implies the threat of violence, however latent?

There are many ways of coercing somebody to do what you want, including a number of entirely non-violent ones, such as blackmailing them by threatening to release information that they don't want out there, or even emotional blackmailing - "If you don't do this, I will leave you and never return".

But in any case, coercion by a "threat of violence" is also not (an act of) violence.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

But in any case, coercion by a "threat of violence" is also not (an act of) violence.

I'm not so sure. Is phantom pain not also pain? Is simulated pain not also pain? Is the threat of torture not also torture? The real question here is whether or not violence is necessarily physical, and I think the obvious answer is that it is clearly not. "psychological violence" is sometimes used as a stand in for, say, abuse.

https://www.gov.nl.ca/VPI/types/index.html#4

4. Psychological Violence
Psychological violence occurs when someone uses threats and causes fear in a person to gain control.

Psychological violence includes, but is not limited to:

• Threatening to harm the person or her or his family if she or he leaves;
• Threatening to harm oneself;
• Threats of violence;
• Threats of abandonment;
• Stalking / criminal harassment;
• Destruction of personal property;
• Verbal aggression;
• Socially isolating the person;
• Not allowing access to a telephone;
• Not allowing a competent person to make decisions;
• Inappropriately controlling the person’s activities;
• Treating a person like a child or a servant;
• Withholding companionship or affection;
• Use of undue pressure to:
  • Sign legal documents;
  • Not seek legal assistance or advice;
  • Move out of the home;
  • Make or change a legal will or beneficiary;
  • Make or change an advance health care directive;
  • Give money or other possessions to relatives or other caregivers; and,
  • Do things the person doesn’t want to do.

They also list spiritual and cultural violence. This is the website of the Canadian Violence Prevention Initiative.

 

[Lexicus]

The WHO defines violence to include the threat of violence as well fwiw.