Realpolitik 2014

Queries to the Socialist Workers Alliance

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Is not your policy outlook overly broad in that it takes into account the far future where circumstance and the corresponding prudential actions, would render your vague intentions void? For example the socialist position on western Europe appears to have been made without any recourse to prudence or circumstance whatever, and if adopted would bind Poland to a firm directive without possibility of opportunistic action, or flexible change. In this sense the Guardians position that our military policy should not be overly broad, and focussed on present conditions and primarily on the coming term is evidently superior. We allow for regular reassessment of objectives by governments present and future, and instead of presenting vague promises of the far future propose only that which is immediately foreseeable on the understanding that it is prudent to regularly assess the nations development in order to calibrate its direction in harmony with governing intentions.

Likewise, we are concerned that your technological policy is short-sighted in terms of your stated intention to achieve a scientific or cultural victory. By heading straight to construction you effectively delay the onset of writing and libraries, which would have an earlier onset under the plan we proposed thus presenting a more efficient technological route, in addition to setting up a stronger means to a cultural development in the less immediate future than your proposal (noting that should lumbermills be pertinent due to large amounts of trees, our tech platform can easily tack on masonry and construction after the plan stated, and this would not be unduly detrimental compared to your proposal since the whole point of lumbermills you propose is for the construction of wonders, and most wonders are far beyond the scope of the relatively few turns difference between the time construction is researched in each proposition). All in all your tech proposition fails to consider long term possibilities and is inflexible.

Finally, we are disappointed that you have failed to provide a building plan beyond a statement that you intend to construct building primarily. Nevertheless, we would note that a focus on buildings is inneficient in that it fails to provide suitable defence for expansion, something both our coalitions support, and simultaneously is not a rationalised pursuit of immediate interests. In this sense the plan we proposed is superior in that it is first and foremost a rational pursuit of immediate objectives related to land-development and territorial expansion, with a secondary potentiality of setting up a foundation for faith development in order that the nation might partake in time of advantages pertaining to the same (Stonehenge allowing for fairly early religion, and hopefully best pick of beliefs for the greatest good of the empire)

All in all, your entire proposition seems very utopian, in the sense that you state long-term goals you have no immediate possibility (should you gain government) of fulfilling, while providing vague and unfocussed immediate objectives that do not really provide a decisive and goal-driven pursuit of the immediate developmental needs of the nascent polish state.
 
My favorite part about all of this is that days ago your coalition was slammed for trying to go early honor, and yet here you guys are, still trying to go for early honor. "If we face barbarians." Of course we'll face barbarians. The question is do we honesty need honor, and the answer is no, we do not.

The SoF said nothing about their policy was final, but days later, if this is the revised policy, then I don't know why your presidential nominee lied. It is the exactly same plan he proposed days ago.

I would like to thank the SoF for managing to waste everybody's time by promising that they were honesty working in the concerns of everybody about their policies. For a party that spent all day yesterday trying to scum votes by constantly promising different things in the chat to different people (how many positions did I see offer yesterday to how many different people? More than I can count on one hand) and has made "Survival and Adaptation" its calling card, the fact is your party has done nothing to alleviate fears that an administration ran by people who haven't played Civilization V or Brave New World would lead to England-levels of chaos.
 
I hereby withdraw all votes thus far and abstain from the election.

Edit: this is apparently not allowed. Still, let it be known I no longer support Solidarity despite voting for them.
 
Solidarity must win to ensure the welfare of the Polish peoples is not undermined and that the gods are not offended by a rush to Honour instead of more better options. Omega has my preys.
 
Due to the impending victory of Solidarity, I hereby announce my candidacy for Opposition Leader.

The SOF has fallen into disarray, and those against the tyranny need to unite behind a new banner. My banner.
 
Vote: PPP/Golden Liberty
 
Due to the impending victory of Solidarity, I hereby announce my candidacy for Opposition Leader.

The SOF has fallen into disarray, and those against the tyranny need to unite behind a new banner. My banner.

I thought any other party leader that didn't win presidency was by default an opposition leader.

So, if it is so, then you and me would both be opposition leaders, but if it's not then I must also present my candidacy for opposition leader.
 
ELECTIONS CONCLUDED. POLLS CLOSED.​

Spoiler :


SOLIDARITY COALITION WINS! ALL HAIL PRESIDENT OMEGA!

President: Omega
Advisers: Dem Taqat, Red Spy and Terran Emperor

Screenshots:

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Event: Latvia? Where is that?

A group of citizens from a tribe calling themselves "Latvians" have approached our temporary settlement. Their tribe plans to settle to the northeast but they have reservations about our proximity and fights over resources. They request we move one tile to the south and west. Will the president cave or not?

Opposition Leader position is up for grabs. Automatically slides to Arya126 if no one disputes the succession.

-L
 
Congratulations to Solidarity on their victory.

In addition, I put myself forward as opposition leader. SoF and other opposition needs someone strong-willed to ensure that the government is kept in check, and with all due respect I don't believe arya is the most capable choice.
 
THE CULT REIGNS SUPREME, AND WITH IT A NEW VISION


Link to video.

And with victory secured and acknowledged, Omega will now officially announce my cabinet.

Military: Red
Domestic: Terran
Foreign: Dem
Interior (Not official position): Son

Any policy questions, feel free to ask. Might do something more IC when internet isn't as bad.
 
I thought any other party leader that didn't win presidency was by default an opposition leader.

So, if it is so, then you and me would both be opposition leaders, but if it's not then I must also present my candidacy for opposition leader.

I already had postulated myself as opposition leader, if it is worth something :p.
 
Arya was our presidential candidate, and he should be our opposition leader. He has shown himself a good leader and an experienced politician, and we must keep a united front around him so we don't have a divided opposition.
 
I would also support Arya being the opposition leader.
 
Opposition Leader is the leader of all the opposition; that is, all the parties and coalitions that are not in the governing coalition. The Opposition can be split, although this is almost always a terrible move as the split will weaken all sides of the opposition and will allow no unified watchdog of the government. As the presidential candidate of the opposing coalition, Strength of Freedom, I am the logical choice for Leader of the Opposition. Southernking, I do not wish to demean you, but you are not even leader of your party, and have barely said two sentences all election; hardly the material of an opposition leader, even if it is the material of a thoughtful and well meaning player in the game. Devilhell, while I admire your eagerness to take a leadership position in the opposition against the government and I am grateful for your vote of support, you are new not only to this Realpolitik, but so far as I know, Realpolitik itself (you at least have not been in any LH RP, which are the ones that count). Perhaps in time you can assume leadership positions, but I do not think that now is the time.

I was the presidential nominee of Strength of Freedom, the opposing coalition that managed to muster 18 votes to Solidarity's 25. I brought together diverse parties such as the IMWP and SDP together, unifying against Solidarity. I am a veteran politician in Realpolitik games, and have learned (and matured) through my many past mistakes. I am also 'strong willed' as SK puts it. Yet at the same time, the same principles I held to during my presidential run, I will hold to as Opposition Leader. That means being open minded yet firm. Taking suggestions from everyone who wishes to give input, yet not making the folly of direct democracy.

I would like to offer congratulations to President Omega whom I have been running against. I hope that the relationship between President and Opposition Leader will not have to turn antagonistic, and that we can peacefully keep each other in check. We both ran believing our views were better than the others' and served Poland in a way that would allow the country to prosper, and regardless of who ended up winning, I hope we can ensure together that all the politicians in this country will be committed to that goal. May you live long and prosper.

If I may, I would suggest moving the settler in the screenshots one tile to the east in order to better take advantage of the potential defensive posture the river offers from more sides than simply one. However the settlement of our first city should be based upon our own values, needs and beliefs, not those of some tribe of barbarians to our northeast.
 
If I may, I would suggest moving the settler in the screenshots one tile to the east in order to better take advantage of the potential defensive posture the river offers from more sides than simply one. However the settlement of our first city should be based upon our own values, needs and beliefs, not those of some tribe of barbarians to our northeast.

President Omega personally agrees with the latter notion (but does speak with the authority of the government). Poland does not want to needlessly antagonize other tribes, but we will not be bullied by them, either.

However, it is for the best if we settle where we stand. Forest is rough terrain, and if we do Arya's plan we are behind for the entire game by a turn. Prince isn't too bad in that department, but I'd rather not risk it for a small gain in defensiveness.

As for who becomes my personal bitter enemy OL, I'll leave that up to the people the decision matters to. No comment.
 
President Omega personally agrees with the latter notion (but does speak with the authority of the government). Poland does not want to needlessly antagonize other tribes, but we will not be bullied by them, either.

However, it is for the best if we settle where we stand. Forest is rough terrain, and if we do Arya's plan we are behind for the entire game by a turn. Prince isn't too bad in that department, but I'd rather not risk it for a small gain in defensiveness.

As for who becomes my personal bitter enemy OL, I'll leave that up to the people the decision matters to. No comment.

That may be true, and I know the government does not have any sort of military focus. But I do ask that we remember there are rumors of a russian tribe (the Russians are in the game), and should we be attacked from the east, losing a turn of development may be worth the defensiveness bonus.

However I understand your logic, and perhaps it depends on what your priorities are.
 
The matter is mute since it costs two moves for us to move into that hex, by which time Latvia will have settled, denying us the ability to settle.
 
I would also like to add (though I may be mistaken) if we move the settler then we will not be able to settle this turn allowing the city state to settle in place meaning we subsequently have to find a new position.

Correct me if I am wrong of course.

Edit: Ninja'd
 
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