Hitti-Litti
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Less serious posts and oneliners can be relevant content. If something can be said in an entertaining and compact way, why should it be written as a wall of text?
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Less serious posts and oneliners can be relevant content. If something can be said in an entertaining and compact way, why should it be written as a wall of text?
Shadowbound
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If I want a serious discussion about the United States deficit, I'll go to a place that specializes in it. If I want to discuss whether or not it's okay to be attracted to GILFs, then I'll go to a place that specializes in that.
Nothing wrong with witty one line relevant comments. Its the irrelevant ones that are a distraction.
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
Don't really like the harsher punishments with Red Diamond Threads. :-/
Not at all. We like discussions without people trolling or tirelessly driving the thread into the ground, we just don't want discussions that are lacking in entertaining, yet relevant, and not degrading the quality of the discussion.
Never mind. It appears some posts were moved around a bit.
Sure, in general most of the ask a threads are not particularly discussion oriented but more Q&A. This particular thread was suggested by someone as a thread where more actual discussion takes place. Cheezy opted in to have it RD designated. Since no one else has offered us a thread to try our hand at, we accepted.
No one is trying to eliminate "entertaining, yet relevant, and not degrading the quality of the discussion."
Where did I say that in the OP?
Yared
That Guy
I am interested in both. I want to be educated and exposed to the different views represented here on CFC, sometimes with a joke or two. I guess I'm just afraid that the Moderators will end up removing more than just distractions.
It is always all about the "dread" when change comes. We don't know what will happen and many prefer the comfort of the present pain. We don't know how this will turn out either. That is why it is a test and why we are starting out slow and why we will evaluate it.
My personal opinion is that the moderating staff is remiss if it doesn't seek out change and better ways to do things that will improve the site. But such change has a price: transition, confusion, angst and even stepping back and re thinking. the only way see if something will work is to try it. And that is what we are doing. We are trying out something new. You can run from it if you want, but I hope enough of you will embrace this opportunity to give it a fair shake.
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I would prefer that none of my threads be designated Red Diamond and that the freer posting standards apply. The fact that it may be political in nature does not mean that I intend it to have heightened standards applied to it.
I would expect no less from you.
While I agree with the Red Diamond concept to the extent that a poster can request Red Diamond status, I do not that a thread should be designated as such if the thread starter does not want it.I would expect no less from you.
If Red Diamond is opt-in by the OP, then if I decide to post in a Red Diamnd thread, my posting style would be altered out of respect to the OP's desire. However, if you are just trying to convert all threads of certain categories to heightened standards, then I just do not see the point of being particularly respectful of the Red Diamoind concept. I just see it as the mods putting up a construction zone where fines are doubled. Under opt-in, I would stay away from the borderline. Under the construction zone concept, I would still dance on where I think the line is (or should be) as a general matter and the Red Diamond is meaningless to me.
Great concept overall. I hope it gets accepted by the community, and the moderators' actions won't be too harsh there.
I'm just wondering currently if the increased attention by moderators will only focus on trolling, rude language and other infractable offenses, or will they also help to keep the discussion "on rails"? Because the page-long discussion of tangential topics, quote wars between individual posters and massive multiquote walls actually bother me more than the occasional inane one-liner or borderline offense.
I'm just wondering currently if the increased attention by moderators will only focus on trolling, rude language and other infractable offenses, or will they also help to keep the discussion "on rails"? Because the page-long discussion of tangential topics, quote wars between individual posters and massive multiquote walls actually bother me more than the occasional inane one-liner or borderline offense.
Is it infractable to one star a Red Diamond thread? Is it infractable to one star them as a matter of habit?
Speaking for myself, I don't have a problem with the opt in concept for those seeking a more managed discussion.
Here is the "problem" I see. Part of the reason for an RD designation is to clarify the moderating task so it is easier to be consistent. Discussion threads have one set of standards and the others a more relaxed set. I put much of the uneven moderation on the fact that discussion and non discussion threads are currently jumbled together. From today's responses, it would appear that there would be many opt out discussion threads that would leave moderators in the same confusing position of trying to sort out what is inappropriate for a particular discussion that they now face. We'd be adding to the work load and not reducing it.
Not in my view.
Kozmos
Jew Detective
Sure, it will begin with only a few threads and before you know it the whole OT will be under the watchful eye of the Red Diamond. God forbid you crack a joke in one of those threads or leave a slightly tasteless comment. Now everything is monitored and kept under complete control. Where is the passion? She is gone. Replaced by ugliness. You see, Mrs. CFC is no longer a pretty lady, she is like an offensive lion or a tiger. Big and hairy. No longer attractive, fertile but big as a farmhouse.
To me it's easy - see a Red Diamind - moderate strictly, don't see a Red Diamond, give a bit of leeway.
You are asking the posters to go through more work - checking the status of a thread to know if a heightened posting standard applies - I don't see the problem with the mods taking on the same status check. Also, a poster can decide to opt of reading or participating in a thread based on Red Diamind status - those with delicate sensibilities can choose to stick to Red Diamind and those with need to stay awake can stick to non-Red Diamond.
I will even go so far an suggest one of the icons be used to designate the opposite of Red Diamond - a discussion thread where you enter at your own risk - where moderation is very light.
