classical_hero
In whom I trust
So do we just start a thread and it gets approved, or do we ask for a thread to be approved and then we can start it?
Red Diamond Threads
- Thread starter Birdjaguar
- Start date
Post the proposed OP in the stickied RD new threads thread. Once a mod approves it, you can repost in a new thread, along with the red diamond icon.
Akka
Moody old mage.
Considering the main problem today, as I see it, is overly stringent moderation that kills the substance of the discussion by forcing it to focus only on the form, I really fail to see how this is gonna improve anything...
It may not, but we will probably find out soon enough.
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Jewel Runner
Will these threads only be in OT, or will the other non-H&J Collesium forums have them as well?
Just OT for now.
Rashiminos
Fool Prophet
This seems more like a loosening of the restraints on the so-called "other" threads by a small margin.
Edit: Right up until this point...
whereupon it becomes a matter of stifling and/or stagnating certain forms of communication.
There was already a sub-Group...
Edit: Right up until this point...
whereupon it becomes a matter of stifling and/or stagnating certain forms of communication.
Spoiler :
There was already a sub-Group...
Mise
isle of lucy
Yeah, I agree. Bad posts are bad because of the content as well as the style; my main gripe is not necessarily with people being rude, but with people posting utter nonsense.
I don't like this at all. I don't want all economics or politics discussions to be serious, and I think it would drive away a great deal of good posters -- and good posts -- from the forum.
IMO, it would be better if the RD worked like this: The OP decides if he wants his thread to have stricter moderation and serious discussion, and if so he puts a red diamond on it. This flags to posters that the thread is for serious, well thought out posts only, and to moderators that they can take a much tighter line on infractions in that thread. An OP who wants a more casual discussion can just post as normal.
Ultimately, the problem is that you want (a) better, more serious discussion, but (b) intend to enforce it by focussing solely on trolling/flaming/one-liners/etc. Better discussion isn't just about civility -- it's also about the content of the posts. If your content stinks, your post sucks, and degrades the quality of the entire thread. The enforcement simply doesn't align correctly with the goal.
This might improve the forums anyway, but I don't believe you've got the principle right.
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
Consider it done.
Also, Winos of CFC, consider Red Diamond Merlot. Good wine, good price.
Thanks!
Great, but...
I'd have to agree with Hitti, Mise, and Rash on this one. Sometimes the kinds of things in the non-serious threads would totally contribute to a thread about a serious topic, and sometimes the serious topics are much better with the less-serious posts in them.
I'd have to agree with Hitti, Mise, and Rash on this one. Sometimes the kinds of things in the non-serious threads would totally contribute to a thread about a serious topic, and sometimes the serious topics are much better with the less-serious posts in them.
Gary Childress
Student for and of life
Moderator Action: Moved from the Ask a red-thread.
So now the "ask a red" thread has all the official sanctions ("RD" status) of a capitalist enterprise, the Civfanatics forums, will I be allowed to post things critical of socialism or are we all supposed to simply agree with everything the OP says? HOw does "civil" discussion work in that respect?
So now the "ask a red" thread has all the official sanctions ("RD" status) of a capitalist enterprise, the Civfanatics forums, will I be allowed to post things critical of socialism or are we all supposed to simply agree with everything the OP says? HOw does "civil" discussion work in that respect?
It is an Ask a thread.
Ask your questions and wait for an answer.
Don't attack others in your questions or counters to his answers
Support your positions with good content
Teh type of posting that you find in Plotinus' thread is a good example.
The goal in this type of thread should be you finding out more about what a red thinks about things and challenging him when his answers don't make sense or fit the facts.
A "Communism is Bad" thread would have a different dynamic.
Ask your questions and wait for an answer.
Don't attack others in your questions or counters to his answers
Support your positions with good content
Teh type of posting that you find in Plotinus' thread is a good example.
The goal in this type of thread should be you finding out more about what a red thinks about things and challenging him when his answers don't make sense or fit the facts.
A "Communism is Bad" thread would have a different dynamic.
Yared
That Guy
I agree with what Choxorn, Hitti, Mise and Rash on this too. I've gotten many lulz from "un-serious" posts in "serious" threads.
(BTW, would short posts like this that doesn't really add anything new to the discussion and are solely displays of agreement be allowed?)
(BTW, would short posts like this that doesn't really add anything new to the discussion and are solely displays of agreement be allowed?)
Gogf
Indescribable
... Except that it's not, really. "Ask a plumber" is one thing; "ask someone who believes a particular thing" is quite another. What will differentiate the new moderation of this thread from the old?
If that had been your only contribution to the thread, it wouold be pretty weak, but if you had been participating and them make such a post I'd find it OK.
What I hear all of you saying is that you don't care if the discussion are improved or not and the entertainment value is more important to you than the relevant content.
Just carry on with the discussion as it as been. We are going to pay attention and comment on what we see as inappropriate as we try all of this out. We've laid out the boundaries as best we can to get this going. It will take real posts and real discussions to get it to gel.
We are going to strongly encourage civility and conversation and discourage the stuff that is not a contirbution.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=10645156&postcount=1
This is something that can't be stressed enough. I've thought several times of returning to active OT posting; however, you keep healing a bleed with a knife. You're stifling creativity and honest posting, acting as if this was a high-brow think-tank. Newsflash: It's the off-topic section of a gaming forum. Enforcing carte blanche rules with trigger-happy mods is not making OT better; it's making it worse. As I just told a mod through PM, people I know via CFC consider OT to be on a steep downturn. I really can't help but agree.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
I apologize for this, but I am genuinely confused. In the thread about the new types of threads this was posted by you:
To me this seems to imply that 'ask a...' type of threads are the 'less serious' threads that this designation wasnt for. Then one gets placed upon this thread.
So can you please clarify whats going on here?
Thanks!
