Returning Civ Leaders-Elimination Thread

[Kimiimaro]

Ashoka 24
Frederick the Great 11-3=8 - Great leader that didn't cross the Alps with war elephants and didn't beat enemy fleet by firing venomous snakes on it.
Hannibal Barca 8+1=9 - Great leader that crossed the Alps with war elephants and beated enemy fleet by firing venomous snakes on it.
Hammurabi 24
Louis XIV 9
Mansa Musa 23
Suryavarman II 21

 

[Morningcalm]

Ashoka 24
Frederick the Great 8
Hannibal Barca 9
Hammurabi 24
Louis XIV 9 - 3 = 6 (If in the game, would serve little purpose but to perpetuate the bonuses France already has. Also, an extravagant and bad leader.)
Mansa Musa 23 + 1 = 24 (Richest man in world history and arguably the most interesting leader remaining along with Hannibal and Hammurabi)
Suryavarman II 21

 

[Siptah]

Ashoka 21 (24-3) better options available from the long Indian history
Frederick the Great 8
Hannibal Barca 9
Hammurabi 24
Louis XIV 7 (6+1) a cheap extra life
Mansa Musa 24
Suryavarman II 21

 

[Guandao]

Ashoka 21
Frederick the Great 8
Hannibal Barca (9+1)=10 I think he deserves to survive Frederick and Louis.
Hammurabi 24
Louis XIV (7-3)=4 He bankrupted his nation, plus France already has a Cultural focus. He wouldn't add anything new to the table.
Mansa Musa 24
Suryavarman II 21

 

[IgorS]

Ashoka 21
Frederick the Great 8
Hannibal Barca 10 - 3 = 7 - Does not deserve to stay longer than Louis
Hammurabi 24
Louis XIV 4 + 1 = 5 - Should stay just a bit more.
Mansa Musa 24
Suryavarman II 21

 

[LastSword]

Ashoka 21
Frederick the Great 8 - 3 = 5 Puny.
Hannibal Barca 7 + 1 = 8 By elimination. I don't believe they would make more than two leaders for one civ so Louis XIV is out making place for Napoleon or Francis. I care more about Babylon than Hammurabi. Mansa Musa is redundant. Suryavarman is nothing to glory of Angkor. Ashoka is somehow close, but I have never played Hannibal in civ5, so Hannibal seems more exotic to me. Oh, and Ashoka doesn't necessary mean new civ.
Hammurabi 24
Louis XIV 5
Mansa Musa 24
Suryavarman II 21

 

[Manifold]

Ashoka 21
Frederick the Great 6 (5+1) Undaunted and heroic in battle
Heroic in battle
Hannibal Barca 8
Hammurabi 24
Louis XIV 5
Mansa Musa 24
Suryavarman II 18 (21-3) too much points

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ashoka 21
Frederick the Great 6-3=3 - Sorry brave king Frederick, but you are unnecessary now.
Hannibal Barca 8+1=9 - He had probably the most interresting life of all remaining leaders and he represents an unreleased Civ. These are two reasons why he should survive to at least top 5.
Hammurabi 24
Louis XIV 5
Mansa Musa 24
Suryavarman II 18

 

[God of Kings]

Ashoka 21
Frederick the Great 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED We already have a Fred representing Germany
Hannibal Barca 9 + 1 = 10 Not only was he a brilliant general, he was a great soffet as well. There's a reason why "Hannibal ad portas" is a popular phrase.
Hammurabi 24
Louis XIV 5
Mansa Musa 24
Suryavarman II 18

 

[Siptah]

Ashoka 18 (21-3) better options for India available
Hannibal Barca 10
Hammurabi 24
Louis XIV 5
Mansa Musa 25 (24+1) he shouldn't lose the lead or even tie
Suryavarman II 18

 

[Pythakoreas]

Ashoka 18
Hannibal Barca 11=10+1 Stay in there for a little bit longer! We got the mythical leader Dido last time around and Civ6 is your chance!
Hammurabi 24
Louis XIV 5
Mansa Musa 25
Suryavarman II 15=18-3 The other 5 are legends in their own right, but this one I had to do a quick Google search on him... he's famous for building temples and one of them is the Angkor Wat, impressive, but still, the other 5 I like them even more... though if Cambodia makes it into the game he would be a good choice.

 

[Guandao]

Ashoka 18
Hannibal Barca 11
Hammurabi 24
Louis XIV (5-3)=2 Extravagant King who bankrupted his nation. Who's willing to finish him off?
Mansa Musa 25
Suryavarman II (15+1)=16 None of the SE Asian rulers are considered legends in the West. Still, my desire for a return of the Khmer continues.

 

[IgorS]

Ashoka 18
Hannibal Barca 11 - 3 = 8 - Typical heroic ancient general, leader of a low-priority civ
Hammurabi 24
Louis XIV 2 + 1 = 3 - Would be really fun to have in the game
Mansa Musa 25
Suryavarman II 16

 

[Morningcalm]

Ashoka 18
Hannibal Barca 8
Hammurabi 24 + 1 = 25 (Just to put him on even footing with Mansa Musa)
Louis XIV 3 - 3 = AU REVOIR (There's nothing about Louis XIV that screams "fun" to me. He was a warrior and an art-lover. Plenty of other leaders were those things, and didn't bankrupt their nation in the process. He outlived the other remaining European leader, so that way he won in a sense, and he made it to the top 6, which is more than I think Louis deserves)
Mansa Musa 25
Suryavarman II 16

 

[Roman Citizen]

Ashoka 18-3=15 Least interesting of the remaining.
Hannibal Barca 8+1=9 He appears to be the best of the remaining.
Hammurabi 25
Mansa Musa 25
Suryavarman II 16

 

[Kimiimaro]

Louis XIV didn't reach to the top five? I guess Zaarin will not be happy about that...

Ashoka 15
Hannibal Barca 9+1=10 - Hannibal Barca is actually the person with the most interresting life here. Truly a brilliant general and a great ruler!
Hammurabi 25
Mansa Musa 25
Suryavarman II 16-3=13 - Top five looks good, but someone has to go, and Suryavarman II is the least interresting choice to me.

 

[Morningcalm]

Ashoka 15 - 3 = 12 (While worthy, we already have peaceloving Gandhi in the game, so I don't see what Ashoka would add beyond a preference for Buddhist faith. It would be hard to allude to his military conquests etc in his earlier life, given that he's most famous for his change of heart and Buddhist patronage later on. He would be an excellent main Indian leader in Civ VII however, and my personal favorite Indian ruler other than Akbar the Great.)
Hannibal Barca 10 + 1 = 11 (Boosting a worthy and accomplished man who was also a ruler and political leader in some form.)
Hammurabi 25
Mansa Musa 25
Suryavarman II 13

 

[Guandao]

Ashoka (12-3)=9 A 2nd leader for India is not as great a priority as an entirely new Civ
Hannibal Barca 11
Hammurabi 25
Mansa Musa 25
Suryavarman II (13+1)=14 SE Asia is still lacking Civs, and he would be a good leader for a Khmer civ

 

[IgorS]

Ashoka 9 + 1 = 10 - A great leader who deserves to be in Civ.
Hannibal Barca 11 - 3 = 8 - Nothing special.
Hammurabi 25
Mansa Musa 25
Suryavarman II 14

 

[Roman Citizen]

Ashoka 10
Hannibal Barca 8+1=9 Out of all who are here, I believe that Hannibal is the most well defended in his position in this elimination thread.
Hammurabi 25
Mansa Musa 25-3=22 He had a lot of money and crash the economy of a region. I'm sorry but I find the other for more interesting.
Suryavarman II 14