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[R&F] Rise and Fall Screenshot discussion

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Cerilis, Nov 28, 2017.

  1. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    That blurry icon is probably a European leader.
     
  2. Ondolindë

    Ondolindë Chieftain

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    For some reason, Justinian I comes to mind when I see that blurred image :D
    IMG_0089.JPG .
     
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  3. Eagle Pursuit

    Eagle Pursuit Scir-Gerefa

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    I'm leaning towards Inca or Dido. The problem with the Inca is that the Sapa Inca crowns typically have a big gold plate at the front. I don't think it's Tamar unless they deviate from her usual depiction with a giant crown.
     
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  4. AriochIV

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    Keep in mind that the game is still changing. Seondeok now looks quite different than she did in the first images we saw.
     
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  5. Kheznik

    Kheznik Chieftain

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    There's a point to be made that Qin looked very different in the E3 2016 walkthrough before he was properly revealed.

    Qin.png

    Though I still can't say that that mystery leader looks like it could be any of the currently known ones, unless they originally made Poundmaker look very... white. Haha.
     
  6. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    There‘s already another NW from West Africa in R&F: Eye of the desert.
     
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  7. Tomice

    Tomice Passionate Smart-Ass

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    In almost all depictions of her, her crown looks like this:



    There's no reason to believe that Firaxis would change her iconic crown and give her one from a few cherry-picked depictions of her, though I suppose it's not impossible; I've been wrong before.

    However, I'd agree in saying that Tamar has the best chance of appearing in R&F of any leader currently being peddled on this forum; there's just too much going for her right now.
     
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  9. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    They changed Barbarossa‘s way more iconic crown of the HRE...
     
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    Barbarossa's Civ VI costume is about 300 years out of date. It's late 15th century armor for a 12th century ruler.
     
  11. Alexander's Hetaroi

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    No feather though in the screenshot. Other pictures have him without the jewel.
     
  12. Lord Lakely

    Lord Lakely Unintentionally a feminist.

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    The main strike against Tamar for that leader screenie is the hair. Tamar always has long hair and/or braids in the portraits i've seen of her, while in the screenshot you can see ears (or earrings), suggesting half-long hair at best.

    It really could be anyone, but I'm going to posit Tupac Yupanqui as the leader shown here (as like... my fourth official guess on this board)

     
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    It's probably because of Justinian's Civ IV model, but when I look at the mysterious figure, Byzantium pops on my mind. But can it be Byzantium when Antioch is a new City-States?
     
  14. Eagle Pursuit

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    It would probably have to be a later Byzantine leader after Antioch was lost to the Seljuks or whomever.
     
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    Alexios I Komnenos would play greatly with the emergencies mechanic, as we have yet to see (or even really propose) a civ/leader that makes use of this new feature.
     
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    Being a leader who stopped the decline of the Byzantine Empire and started the restoration of army, finances and territorries, Alexios I Komnenos would make a really good Byzantine leader.
     
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    Phoenix1595 Lord of the Two Lands

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    He would be a great new direction for Byzantine leader. It is a shame that they don't seem to be headed in the direction of including them for R&F, although was Antioch already detached from the Empire by the time of the Komnene dynasty?
     
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    Phoenix1595 Lord of the Two Lands

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    I did some light digging, and it was Alexios who caused an independent Antioch to submit to Byzantine suzereignty during the First Crusade. Very intriguing, given the introduction of Antioch as a CS...
     
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    Interesting. One would assume that, given that there are only 4 Civs not yet revealed, we will not be getting both Byzantium and the Ottomans - and I'd call it highly unlikely that we would be getting the Ottomans, Byzantium and Georgia.

    If it's one or the other, I'd say the Ottomans are more likely because they're one of the few remaining ever-present Civs not yet seen, and also because we could really use another Islamic Civ. But who really knows...
     
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  20. evanaurora

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    This to me seems the most likely-- I think most would be very surprised if the Inca weren't in the game at this point.

    I'm appalling at distinguishing things visually, but I do think the quality of the screenshot isn't good enough to say definitively that there isn't a (dark) feather there. ????

    The thing is a city list doesn't.... necessarily correlate to the holdings of whatever leader, right? I haven't studied the maps and whatnot but that isn't at all the impression I've gotten while playing. It's just the capital that changes.

    All that to say that I don't think the Byzantines at all likely, all things considered, but that if they're in the game the presence of Antioch as a city state probably won't be the most urgent question as to who the leader'd be. Even if there's a scenario, they'd probably change the leaders involved in said scenario anyway.
     

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