Dhoomstriker
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Okay, well maybe we'll need more testing on this part and just plan to play up to T33 for now?Wheat
Hmmm, I'm not sure. One reason I left the wheat for longer in Gems city is that it grows very slowly, and from memory it only grows to pop 4 the same turn as the GH mine is finished if we give it the wheat for those turns. This allows faster granary & then whipped Lib
edit: We only start the settler on t40, and it is moving to its spot on t43, the WB nets the crabs the same turn it is settled.
The settler is 2 pop whipped on t42 for 17 o/f (converted into 30 hammers for Granary), and the chop 2W of the Cap goes into the granary on the next turn, so we are getting that granary in 5 turns.
I like the idea of keeping the game moving forward, but only so far as we're not limiting our options that we haven't fully tested.
I'm going to be very low on testing time for the next couple of days, though.
But, here's what concerns me:
Growing City 2 to Size 4 prior to getting a Granary. It's not going to help us too much to 2-pop-whip a Granary there after barely growing to Size 4...
i. We don't gain the benefit of a Granary when growing from Size 3 to Size 4
AND
ii. Having a Granary at Size 2 isn't of particular use when you start off with an empty Foodbox and only earn 2 Food per turn
I think that the Food could possibly be better used by the capital (at least for 1 turn minimum, but probably for more turns to maximize our recovering from Whipping in the capital).
In other words, if we can grow City 2 to Size 3 and then give up on using the Wheat, possibly giving up on the Wheat even sooner than that time, I think that we'll be able to make much more effective use out of our Wheat by letting the capital use it more. We can literally use 1 Chop and 1 Whip in City 2 at Size 3 to get a Library and then delay the Granary for a long time before it'll really be needed. Dumping extra Food into City 2 isn't really going to do a whole lot for us, unless we are so Happiness strapped in the capital that we have no way to make use of the Wheat's Food.
But, with an early Whip to have Whipping Unhappiness wearing off sooner and the Gems coming online, it feels like we might have the Happiness room to keep using the Wheat in the capital more often, allowing the capital to be able to recover faster from whipping.
That's the theory, anyway, but we'd need to play it out.
EDIT: Ideally, the goals should be:
1. City 2 grows quickly enough to:
i. Work each Gems Mine when it comes online
AND
ii. On the turn when we learn Writing, City 2 is about to grow to Size 3 (growing to Size sooner is okay if the capital can't use the Food before then, but if the capital can make good use the Food, let the capital use it)
AND
iii. On the turn after we learn Writing, when the Chop is realised, and City 2 is at Size 3, we 1-pop-whip the Library (20 H * 2 = 40 H, leaving 90 - 40 = 50 H, which is covered by a 1-pop-whipping action that nets us 60 H in the Library)
2. Make use of whipping in the capital as effectively as possible
3. Have enough population points in the capital after building a Library to hire 2 Scientists ASAP, for our Academy (or Lightbulb Alphabet if we self-tech Math, although we're not going to have a whole lot of Forests to make uber-early Math help a lot, unless we have a 4th City settled in order to build The Great Lighthouse... and even then, we can probably just pre-Chop and self-tech Math after building an Academy if we really want Math that badly early on)