[BTS] SGOTM 25 - Home Slices

[WastinTime]

Can Pig City be our Monastery/missionary city?! It's closer to Shanghai anyway.

Genius! Now Yanan can go back to HAs and spies. We just need that free spread to GoldCity.

 

[LowtherCastle]

but why refrigeration then? Corp must be out there somewhere.

Either we weren't paying enough attention to Exp/Imp or the AI who has COrp hasn't had TRs with us.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Either we weren't paying enough attention to Exp/Imp or the AI who has COrp hasn't had TRs with us.

Maybe the idea is to provide us with a tech-steal path to Refrig without enabling any AI to create it.

Can we get their with 8 tech steals?

 

[WastinTime]

Genius! Now Yanan can go back to HAs and spies.

Fits like a glove. (not OJ's glove)
Nanjing has 7h overflow and didn't really know what to do with it anyway. Monastery is perfect.
Yanan can now work more food, grow, and set up a 2h HA whip.

 

[LowtherCastle]

(not OJ's glove)

bloody good joke, mate

 

[LowtherCastle]

Manchou gets +1 angry citizen (Motherland). Can't work the fur tile this turn--not worth raising the culture slider. It will have MP next turn. Bejing tho will be unhappy at size 7 next turn, and that city is critical. We may have to run the culture slider T45-47.

Do we have gold yet? We do, don't we. Wines? Road first and bring another worker or two in to winerate faster?

 

[LowtherCastle]

Any damn AI trading luxuries yet?

 

[LowtherCastle]

Another reason for pavilions anyway. *2 with the slider. In addition to +25% culture in our 2nd and 3rd LCs.

 

[LowtherCastle]

My son studied in Nanjing last year. Good time he had.

 

[WastinTime]

Do we have gold yet? We do, don't we. Wines? Road first and bring another worker or two in to winerate faster?

yea, we have 2 gold now. I could have skipped one mids chop and got started on the winery road next turn. Probably wine T50, but I decided that I could do the chop and get wine T51, like you said, with the help of the 2-3 workers that are chopping T48.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Good luck. Sacking out here.

 

[WastinTime]

Alright, I'm gonna roll to 45, and see what excitement I can find, then upload and call it a day.

 

[WastinTime]

We've got some teleporting to do. On T46, it depends on the order we gift away NY and Chong. We have 2 goals: get units to Tokyo, but also recapture Chong immediately, T47. Can't let it out of revolt. If things go as planned, we will have a unit in NY with no movement and 1 unit NE with no movement.

There is also some teleporting in the future for the Japan area. Start thinking about clever options. It will be easier later today when we know what T46 looks like.

And while were on this map, I've been thinking about the bomber plan (again). So far, we've attacked 0% and 20% cities with 2 defenders (strike, strike), but now we have 2 capitals at 40% with possibly 4-5 defenders.
So, what if I just focus on Tokyo while I'm down here (instead of rebase to Istanbul and back here again)
46 strike NY
47 bombard Tokyo 2nd time
48 bombard to 0%
49 strike
50 strike (capture?)
51 strike/capture or rebase

we have 3 galleys and units coming from all directions, some need healing, some need roads. How to get them there as early as possible for T50 capture. Our far west boat was coming in for T50 dropoff, T51 capture. Maybe we can capture without him.

This delays Moscow several turns, but were we going to be able to get Moscow T49 or T50 with only 2 strikes and limited army? Probably not.

plan above also give the bomber the option of striking a unit approaching Indodesia.

 

[WastinTime]

Tsing HA, at Chong-2E, can make it to NY for T46 capture so we have the super-safe version of 4 attackers. We were fortunate the rivers didn't block us. When it was born, I was sending it to Moscow, but NY is good use of it, especially if we can also get it to Tokyo on time.

 

[WastinTime]

Last chance to do the GoldCity cows with no worker turn waste. I've looked at every horse unit and they are all fine with the roads coming in 2t later. It works out perfectly with no delay to Moscow. Wheat is delayed 1t. Metal connection to Xian is delayed, but I'll just make a warrior MP for Moscow.
I'm pasturing.

 

[WastinTime]

settler in Mumbai with the lb and Redcoat. A new city probably means 2 more redcoats being built. Hopefully they'll be slow to come out with his workers doing lumbermills instead of chopping. And chops are only 20h

 

[LowtherCastle]

Redcoats will cost Churchill less than 60 hammers. We might need to gift him COL and get him out of Slavery, when the time comes. We'll also need to think in terms of not killing him off but rather getting him to vassal to us. Or even shift back to another VC.

 

[WastinTime]

43-45
Continuing...

T46
Toku takes HR (monarchy)
no spreads.

Now for some fun!

Toku's Axe is right next to Indonesia (don't care). Capture it with archer.
He also sent an archer to the desert (2 tiles away). Fine, now it's not fortified.
The worker that roaded the cottage moved to mine the far north, roaded hills.
I capture it with my HA on the Galley. #15.

Now check out this action. Recall the map from T45:



We now own Indonesia (Tokyo-4E). CF is next.
Our HA and worker at Tokyo 2N will teleport to Indonesia . I was wondering how we were going to get a worker to the Philippines.

NewYork (grew to size 2, whip would be coming next turn, if we didn't own it.)

Strike: both archers are 1.5.

HA (97%) , heavily damaged.
Sword (95.5)
only 14, no buildings.

CF Japan.
Let's start the crazy...
Gift Chong, NY, and Gold city to Japan

Infiltrate NY for 3000 EPs

T47
Welcome Wang!
Yes, of course, there will be peace in our time. (I'm such a liar)

(no spreads )

Wang is annoyed with us (-2 close borders)
I don't know you all have made a lot of AI colonies as I have recently, but one warrior often explores. In this case all 3 explored leaving just 1 per city.

Our EPs give us nice vision on everyone. Chong is building a Factory
Tokyo will complete an archer
He's got another worker for us in Tokyo.

DoW Japan (and Korea)

Injured Choko (99.87%) Granary survives in Chong! 2

Archer takes back Indonesia. Toku's archer and Axe marched back towards Tokyo last turn. I wonder if they're turn around again or not?

EPs on Wang

T48

(no spreads )

Toku moves archer back in Tokyo, Axe goes that way too.
New archer covers worker (on the same tile we captured before)
Not sure where to drop the HA. Or whether to strike or bombard. Thoughts?
Toku is building a Trireme, probably 1 per turn. Fortunately, there's no way to sail north out of Tokyo.

Wang: hindu as expected.

Mids is locked in! 503h
GPP there is now almost a no-brainer. Just run 4 every turn. born T57.
We may need a couple more turns of 10% culture like we do this turn. I think 4 cities benefit from the slider rt now. Wine is due T51.

Spoiler Log: :

Turn 95, 500 BC: You have trained a Horse Archer in Yan'an. Work has now begun on a Horse Archer.
Turn 95, 500 BC: You have trained a Horse Archer in Shanghai. Work has now begun on a Swordsman.
Turn 95, 500 BC: You have trained a Spy in GoldCity. Work has now begun on a Granary.
Turn 95, 500 BC: Tokugawa adopts Hereditary Rule!

Turn 96, 475 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Yemen!
Turn 96, 475 BC: Shanghai has grown to size 4.
Turn 96, 475 BC: Shanghai can hurry Swordsman for 2⇴ with 27ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 41 turns.
Turn 96, 475 BC: Manchou has grown to size 5.
Turn 96, 475 BC: Philippines can hurry Pavilion for 1⇴ with 4ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 10 turns.
Turn 96, 475 BC: The borders of Xian are about to expand.
Turn 96, 475 BC: You have captured Indonesia!!!
Turn 96, 475 BC: Your Horse Archer 3 (Guangzhou) has destroyed a Worker!
Turn 96, 475 BC: You have captured a Worker
Turn 96, 475 BC: Your Bomber has attacked an enemy Archer! (-50% Damage)
Turn 96, 475 BC: Your Bomber has caused collateral damage! (1 Unit)
Turn 96, 475 BC: Clearing a Forest has created 30 ℤ for Tsingtao.
Turn 96, 475 BC: Indonesia will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 96, 475 BC: You are the worst enemy of Churchill, Roosevelt, Bismarck, Julius Caesar, Stalin.
Turn 96, 475 BC: Churchill is the worst enemy of De Gaulle, Tokugawa, Mehmed II.
Turn 96, 475 BC: The borders of Xian are about to expand.
Turn 96, 475 BC: Tokugawa will trade Civil Service
Turn 96, 475 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Roosevelt, Tokugawa
Turn 96, 475 BC: SGOTM25's Horse Archer 5 (Nanjing) (6.00) vs Roosevelt's Archer (3.67)
Turn 96, 475 BC: Combat Odds: 96.2%
Turn 96, 475 BC: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 96, 475 BC: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 96, 475 BC: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 96, 475 BC: (Hills Defense: +25%)
Turn 96, 475 BC: SGOTM25's Horse Archer 5 (Nanjing) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 96, 475 BC: SGOTM25's Horse Archer 5 (Nanjing) is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 96, 475 BC: SGOTM25's Horse Archer 5 (Nanjing) is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 96, 475 BC: Roosevelt's Archer is hit for 20 (30/100HP)
Turn 96, 475 BC: Roosevelt's Archer is hit for 20 (10/100HP)
Turn 96, 475 BC: Roosevelt's Archer is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 96, 475 BC: SGOTM25's Horse Archer 5 (Nanjing) has defeated Roosevelt's Archer!
Turn 96, 475 BC: Your Horse Archer 5 (Nanjing) has destroyed a Archer!
Turn 96, 475 BC: SGOTM25's Swordsman 3 (Beijing) (6.00) vs Roosevelt's Archer (2.92)
Turn 96, 475 BC: Combat Odds: 97.4%
Turn 96, 475 BC: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 96, 475 BC: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 96, 475 BC: (City Defense: +50%)
Turn 96, 475 BC: (Hills Defense: +25%)
Turn 96, 475 BC: (City Attack: -30%)
Turn 96, 475 BC: Roosevelt's Archer is hit for 23 (27/100HP)
Turn 96, 475 BC: Roosevelt's Archer is hit for 23 (4/100HP)
Turn 96, 475 BC: SGOTM25's Swordsman 3 (Beijing) is hit for 17 (83/100HP)
Turn 96, 475 BC: Roosevelt's Archer is hit for 23 (0/100HP)
Turn 96, 475 BC: SGOTM25's Swordsman 3 (Beijing) has defeated Roosevelt's Archer!
Turn 96, 475 BC: Your Swordsman 3 (Beijing) has destroyed a Archer!
Turn 96, 475 BC: You have captured New York!!!
Turn 96, 475 BC: You have made peace with Tokugawa!
Turn 96, 475 BC: Indonesia will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 96, 475 BC: You are the worst enemy of Churchill, Roosevelt, Bismarck, Julius Caesar, Stalin.
Turn 96, 475 BC: Churchill is the worst enemy of De Gaulle, Tokugawa, Mehmed II.
Turn 96, 475 BC: The borders of Xian are about to expand.
Turn 96, 475 BC: Will Sign Peace Treaty: Roosevelt
Turn 96, 475 BC: Yan'an will grow to size 4 on the next turn.
Turn 96, 475 BC: Guangzhou will grow to size 4 on the next turn.
Turn 96, 475 BC: Hong Kong will grow to size 3 on the next turn.
Turn 96, 475 BC: Shanghai will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 96, 475 BC: Tsingtao will grow to size 3 on the next turn.
Turn 96, 475 BC: Nanjing will grow to size 4 on the next turn.
Turn 96, 475 BC: You have trained a Horse Archer in Yan'an. Work has now begun on a Spy.
Turn 96, 475 BC: You have trained a Cho-Ko-Nu in Hong Kong. Work has now begun on a Axeman.
Turn 96, 475 BC: You have trained a Horse Archer in Shanghai. Work has now begun on a Spy.
Turn 96, 475 BC: The borders of Xian have expanded!
Turn 96, 475 BC: You have constructed a Granary in Yemen. Work has now begun on a Work Boat.
Turn 96, 475 BC: You have constructed a Pavilion in Philippines. Work has now begun on a Granary.
Turn 96, 475 BC: Tokugawa has placed Wang Kon in charge of their overseas colonies of Korea
Turn 96, 475 BC: Wang Kon has agreed to become a vassal state of Tokugawa

Turn 97, 450 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Yemen!
Turn 97, 450 BC: Yan'an has grown to size 4.
Turn 97, 450 BC: Yan'an can hurry Spy for 2⇴ with 29ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 48 turns.
Turn 97, 450 BC: Guangzhou has grown to size 4.
Turn 97, 450 BC: Hong Kong has grown to size 3.
Turn 97, 450 BC: Shanghai has grown to size 5.
Turn 97, 450 BC: Manchou can hurry Library for 2⇴ with 21ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 22 turns.
Turn 97, 450 BC: Tsingtao has grown to size 3.
Turn 97, 450 BC: Nanjing has grown to size 4.
Turn 97, 450 BC: Nanjing can hurry Spy for 1⇴ with 13ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 16 turns.
Turn 97, 450 BC: Indonesia has been pacified.
Turn 97, 450 BC: De Gaulle is the worst enemy of Wang Kon.
Turn 97, 450 BC: In a gracious act of generosity, SGOTM25 has liberated Indonesia, which passed under Japanese control.
Turn 97, 450 BC: You have declared war on Tokugawa!
Turn 97, 450 BC: Tokugawa refuses to talk.
Turn 97, 450 BC: You have declared war on Wang Kon!
Turn 97, 450 BC: Wang Kon refuses to talk.
Turn 97, 450 BC: You have captured Indonesia!!!
Turn 97, 450 BC: SGOTM25's Cho-Ko-Nu 2 (Guangzhou) (4.32) vs Wang Kon's Warrior (1.66)
Turn 97, 450 BC: Combat Odds: 99.8%
Turn 97, 450 BC: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 97, 450 BC: (Fortify: +5%)
Turn 97, 450 BC: (City Defense: +25%)
Turn 97, 450 BC: (Combat: -50%)
Turn 97, 450 BC: Wang Kon's Warrior is hit for 35 (65/100HP)
Turn 97, 450 BC: Wang Kon's Warrior is hit for 35 (30/100HP)
Turn 97, 450 BC: SGOTM25's Cho-Ko-Nu 2 (Guangzhou) is hit for 11 (49/100HP)
Turn 97, 450 BC: Wang Kon's Warrior is hit for 35 (0/100HP)
Turn 97, 450 BC: SGOTM25's Cho-Ko-Nu 2 (Guangzhou) has defeated Wang Kon's Warrior!
Turn 97, 450 BC: Your Cho-Ko-Nu 2 (Guangzhou) has destroyed a Warrior!
Turn 97, 450 BC: You have captured Chongqing!!!
Turn 97, 450 BC: SGOTM25's Horse Archer 6 (Beijing) (6.00) vs Wang Kon's Warrior (3.10)
Turn 97, 450 BC: Combat Odds: 99.0%
Turn 97, 450 BC: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 97, 450 BC: (Fortify: +5%)
Turn 97, 450 BC: (City Defense: +25%)
Turn 97, 450 BC: Wang Kon's Warrior is hit for 27 (73/100HP)
Turn 97, 450 BC: Wang Kon's Warrior is hit for 27 (46/100HP)
Turn 97, 450 BC: SGOTM25's Horse Archer 6 (Beijing) is hit for 14 (86/100HP)
Turn 97, 450 BC: Wang Kon's Warrior is hit for 27 (19/100HP)
Turn 97, 450 BC: Wang Kon's Warrior is hit for 27 (0/100HP)
Turn 97, 450 BC: SGOTM25's Horse Archer 6 (Beijing) has defeated Wang Kon's Warrior!
Turn 97, 450 BC: Your Horse Archer 6 (Beijing) has destroyed a Warrior!
Turn 97, 450 BC: You have captured GoldCity!!!
Turn 97, 450 BC: SGOTM25's Chariot 6 (Guangzhou) (4.00) vs Wang Kon's Warrior (2.00)
Turn 97, 450 BC: Combat Odds: 99.1%
Turn 97, 450 BC: SGOTM25's Chariot 6 (Guangzhou) is hit for 14 (86/100HP)
Turn 97, 450 BC: Wang Kon's Warrior is hit for 28 (72/100HP)
Turn 97, 450 BC: Wang Kon's Warrior is hit for 28 (44/100HP)
Turn 97, 450 BC: Wang Kon's Warrior is hit for 28 (16/100HP)
Turn 97, 450 BC: Wang Kon's Warrior is hit for 28 (0/100HP)
Turn 97, 450 BC: SGOTM25's Chariot 6 (Guangzhou) has defeated Wang Kon's Warrior!
Turn 97, 450 BC: Your Chariot 6 (Guangzhou) has destroyed a Warrior!
Turn 97, 450 BC: Your Bomber has reduced the defenses of Tokyo to 12%!
Turn 97, 450 BC: Guangzhou will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 97, 450 BC: Beijing will grow to size 6 on the next turn.
Turn 97, 450 BC: Mongolia will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 97, 450 BC: Manchou will grow to size 4 on the next turn.
Turn 97, 450 BC: You have trained a Spy in Guangzhou. Work has now begun on a Spy.
Turn 97, 450 BC: You have trained a Axeman in Hong Kong. Work has now begun on a Work Boat.
Turn 97, 450 BC: You have trained a Horse Archer in Manchou. Work has now begun on a Library.
Turn 97, 450 BC: You have constructed a Taoist Monastery in Nanjing. Work has now begun on a Spy.
Turn 97, 450 BC: You have trained a Work Boat in Yemen. Work has now begun on a Work Boat.
Turn 97, 450 BC: The borders of Philippines have expanded!
Turn 97, 450 BC: Wang Kon converts to Hinduism!

Turn 98, 425 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Indonesia!
Turn 98, 425 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Yemen!
Turn 98, 425 BC: Yan'an can hurry Spy for 1⇴ with 30ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 47 turns.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Guangzhou has grown to size 5.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Guangzhou has become unhappy.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Guangzhou can hurry Spy for 2⇴ with 24ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 45 turns.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Beijing has become unhappy.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Mongolia has grown to size 5.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Mongolia can hurry Spy for 1⇴ with 22ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 25 turns.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Hong Kong has grown to size 4.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Hong Kong can hurry Work Boat for 1⇴ with 27ℤ overflow, 10ℴ added to the treasury, and +1⇤ for 26 turns.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Shanghai has become unhappy.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Shanghai can hurry Spy for 1⇴ with 24ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 39 turns.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Manchou has become unhappy.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Manchou can hurry Library for 2⇴ with 17ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 31 turns.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Tsingtao will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Nanjing can hurry Spy for 1⇴ with 13ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 25 turns.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Indonesia will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 98, 425 BC: You are the worst enemy of Tokugawa, Wang Kon.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Clearing a Forest has created 24 ℤ for Beijing.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Clearing a Forest has created 24 ℤ for Beijing.
Turn 98, 425 BC: Clearing a Forest has created 30 ℤ for Manchou.

 

[WastinTime]

Our situation is described in the report above. How to shuffle the units?

I'm thinking:
galley picks up HA and worker inside Indonesia T46.
sail the last movement point 1NE.

Next turn, 47, worker jumps out NE (the eastern-most forest)
Archer jumps on board galley.
We gift the city to Toku (for war success), and galley teleports-1E
We sail-W and capture the city with HA.
Galley stays at Indonesia-N to unload archer next turn.

Or, switch the archer and HA above. That way, the archer captures the city and the HA could jump out SW onto the desert tile (assuming it's unoccupied)

T48 galley can load up 2 units from HK, unload at Tokyo T49 and load to more also on T49

meanwhile, The galley that just captured the worker...
could stay put and teleport 1E to pick up units near silkcity or go to Gua for the sword, choko, etc.

 

[WastinTime]

NewYork thoughts

Normally, when I get my 1-mover in position the exact same time as my HAs, I always attack with the sword without much thought.
However, in this case, I'm going to try not to use it, so it can teleport and move to Tokyo, uninjured.

Or, just give up on it and move the HAs to Tokyo. They'll be faster.