Single Player bugs and crashes v36 plus (SVN) - After the 24th of October 2015

[Sajek93]

~3gb

I know my PC is not the strongest one but anyways You really think this is the only matter why game cannot start?

 

[strategyonly]

OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B960 @ 2.20GHz, 2200 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4,00 GB
Graphic card AMD Radeon HD 7470M

Generally speaking Civ4 BtS works without any problems, but not for this mod.

Bts is like 10X smaller than this modmod.

ALso if you look at the Req in this, it might give you a better clue:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=11067902&postcount=13

 

[Yudishtira]

~3gb

I know my PC is not the strongest one but anyways You really think this is the only matter why game cannot start?

It's the exact same error I got trying to run a custom game on my old XP machine with 2.5Gb.

That machine could only run a 'default' game of C2C on a Small map.

Your machine's way better, of course. I'm not sure what C2C's peak usage of RAM is. I know it's over 2 gig and less than 4, but beyond that I'd be guessing.

 

[JosEPh_II]

Strange Graphics, see screenie below.

@T-brd,
3rd time seems to be the Charm.

Edit: Also after the 3rd commit, iirc, the EoT wait in late Ancient fell to 6 secs from 16 secs on my Comp.

JosEPh

 

[Thunderbrd]

Just tried the latest SVN again, NOW its working, so what ever was just changed FIXED the problem, what ever that was, thx . . .SO


EDIT: But after the latest SVN, now it is taking over 20-30 seconds LONGER in turn times, AGAIN??????

Edit: Also after the 3rd commit, iirc, the EoT wait in late Ancient fell to 6 secs from 16 secs on my Comp.

Turn times have a vast capacity for variance. Units find themselves in different situations. Civs have differing needs for evaluation. Caching at times does need to reset itself thanks to changes taking place. Not all turn times will be equal. A variation of 20-30 seconds is quite normal. I somewhat doubt that anything I did yesterday would have much impact on turn times though perhaps the current one may be a bit faster than a few revisions ago.

I'm relieved to know that the bonus access evaluation is now working correctly


Those having difficulty with starting a game should consider that it may be a scenario. System specs can be pretty forgiving if you're using the 3GB switch (even if you have 3GB RAM) but CAN be an issue for some. But there could be maps and scenarios that don't function properly so try a few other ways to start and see if that clears things up.

 

[Sparth]

Strange Graphics, see screenie below.

Its a problem with mapscript and workable peaks option. Improvements and features looks strange on peaks and we dont cant easy fix it.

 

[Pit2015]

Unit: Tomol cant load my master hunter plz fix.

What happend to the grafic landscape change?

 

[Thunderbrd]

Unit: Tomol cant load my master hunter plz fix.

Master Hunting units weren't given <Special>SPECIALUNIT_PEOPLE</Special>. Easily repaired. Will include in my next commit.

 

[Sajek93]

Bts is like 10X smaller than this modmod.

ALso if you look at the Req in this, it might give you a better clue:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=11067902&postcount=13

But still, I tried Rise of Mankind mod which is more advanced than regular BtS (altough not as much as C2C) and I had no problem...

 

[Thunderbrd]

OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B960 @ 2.20GHz, 2200 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4,00 GB
Graphic card AMD Radeon HD 7470M

Generally speaking Civ4 BtS works without any problems, but not for this mod.

With only 2 cores, you may need to set the NUM_CITY_PIPELINE_THREADS in C:\Program Files (x86)\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Caveman2Cosmos\Assets\XML\A_New_Dawn_GlobalDefines.xml
to 2 rather than the default 4.

You should also consider other reasons the mod may not be working, like copying the mod over an older version which has been a recent mistake someone else made here.

 

[Sgt. Bears]

Building the Lotus Temple in any of my cities causes a CTD, refer to the save.

When I load a save from a previous revision to the latest revision I get this python error.
ConfigError: Module 'GoodyIslands' must define function or class 'onGoodyReceived'

Could trade caravans not be allowed promotions except speed promotions. Cause it is quite annoying to have all these military promotions on a civilian unit.

Desert Worker Promotion could also apply to Barren and Rocky.

Could there be another Worker promotion line that affects Muddy, Marsh and Scrub Terrain.

Forest Worker could also affect Ancient Forest, Bamboo, Burnt Forest, Cactus, Jungle, Mangrove, Savanna and Very Tall Grass.

The terrain feature devastating impact has a very long description of what it is as its name. It's name could become its History and a new name created.

You can build mines when you have the technology for shaft mines even though shaft mines are far better, could this be fixed? IIRC Dawn of Mankind recently fixed this bug.

Could there be a hurry all units and buildings in production queue button. It would make founding new cities far easier.

Could buildings that provide free buildings list what the buildings effects, similar to how the great general promotion's effects are listed in its effects. i.e.

Aesop's Fables
*Free Safety (Aesop's Fables) in Every City
      [B]*-5 crime/Turn[/B]
*City more likely to generate Great Artist
*Can be built only once.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Building the Lotus Temple in any of my cities causes a CTD, refer to the save.

Examining

Desert Worker Promotion could also apply to Barren and Rocky.

Could there be another Worker promotion line that affects Muddy, Marsh and Scrub Terrain.

Forest Worker could also affect Ancient Forest, Bamboo, Burnt Forest, Cactus, Jungle, Mangrove, Savanna and Very Tall Grass.

Promotions can only have one terrain defined at this time.

 

[Sparth]

Could trade caravans not be allowed promotions except speed promotions. Cause it is quite annoying to have all these military promotions on a civilian unit.

Desert Worker Promotion could also apply to Barren and Rocky.

Could there be another Worker promotion line that affects Muddy, Marsh and Scrub Terrain.

Forest Worker could also affect Ancient Forest, Bamboo, Burnt Forest, Cactus, Jungle, Mangrove, Savanna and Very Tall Grass.

I have on the radar these promotions and Ill fix them when I have some time.

 

[Thunderbrd]

Building the Lotus Temple in any of my cities causes a CTD, refer to the save.

I'll take a look as well soon.

When I load a save from a previous revision to the latest revision I get this python error.
ConfigError: Module 'GoodyIslands' must define function or class 'onGoodyReceived'

Didn't realize this wasn't safe to comment out. What else do I need to do with this DH?

Could trade caravans not be allowed promotions except speed promotions. Cause it is quite annoying to have all these military promotions on a civilian unit.

We'd have to look at this from a couple of different angles. There are certainly more promos than speed ones that would apply but perhaps some are being overly granted to civilians simply because Law Enforcement is also a civilian unit and the access should perhaps be moved to be more specific to Law Enforcement units. I won't deny that promo access needs some revision.

Desert Worker Promotion could also apply to Barren and Rocky.

Could there be another Worker promotion line that affects Muddy, Marsh and Scrub Terrain.

Forest Worker could also affect Ancient Forest, Bamboo, Burnt Forest, Cactus, Jungle, Mangrove, Savanna and Very Tall Grass.

I don't know why DH believes only one type can be applied to a promo. This is untrue.

These tags:

		<element type="TerrainWorkRateModifierChangeTypes" minOccurs="0"/>
		<element type="FeatureWorkRateModifierChangeTypes" minOccurs="0"/>
		<element type="BuildWorkRateModifierChangeTypes" minOccurs="0"/>

Are capable of defining multiple terrain, feature and build work rate modifiers.

Note that the worker promotions is most definitely unfinished territory. This is why it wasn't fully fleshed out in similar ways to what you suggest. Not yet anyhow. I suppose it may fall on the radar for this version since it is something that's pretty noticeable as a loose end right now. Maybe Sparth and I could have a discussion on it as a project.

In addition, many of the specific worker types (animal assisted is what I have most in mind here) can take modifiers on their base unit stats as well and this also has gone underdeveloped.

And we've not really considered the build type applications much either. We could have road worker promos that help with building routes, mine working(including quarries and all types of mines), lumberjack(all types of woodcutting), farming(and plantations and so on) etc... lines that influence the work rates on specific build types.

The terrain feature devastating impact has a very long description of what it is as its name. It's name could become its History and a new name created.

Just noticed that the other day... very strange design imo.

You can build mines when you have the technology for shaft mines even though shaft mines are far better, could this be fixed? IIRC Dawn of Mankind recently fixed this bug.

Not really a bad thing in C2C. There are currently differing ways to mine in RL and there may be some benefits to the mine over the shaft mine. I know at some point, mines destroy forests but the original mine type does not. This can be a big advantage to keep the forests, even if it does cause some sacrifice.

Could there be a hurry all units and buildings in production queue button. It would make founding new cities far easier.

You could always just hurry them as you put them into the queue. Then again, even easier is to just hurry whatever is next to build every round. I've found this maximizes the overflow production as it then kicks in to help with the next building(s) and a few a round are usually produced.

Could buildings that provide free buildings list what the buildings effects, similar to how the great general promotion's effects are listed in its effects. i.e.

Aesop's Fables
*Free Safety (Aesop's Fables) in Every City
      [B]*-5 crime/Turn[/B]
*City more likely to generate Great Artist
*Can be built only once.

That would be... difficult. Maybe possible but I worry about how often it would cause the description to overflow the help panel. The only way to make this work would be to 'nest' another building help text call so it would mean added complexity to take some tags and make it so they cannot be displayed in this case. I could look into it at some point here.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Didn't realize this wasn't safe to comment out. What else do I need to do with this DH?

We use BUG modular python. This means that you have to tell the event manager what method your python is using. That is done in the config folder in an XML of the same name. If you remove one method onGoodyReceived then you need to remove it from the config file. If you remove all the python then you need to remove the config file and the entry in the init.xml.

I don't know why DH believes only one type can be applied to a promo. This is untrue.

Was last time I tried I must have missed the notice about it being fixed. I just remember it being on the to do list.

You could always just hurry them as you put them into the queue. Then again, even easier is to just hurry whatever is next to build every round. I've found this maximizes the overflow production as it then kicks in to help with the next building(s) and a few a round are usually produced.

Don't forget that each hurry affects your inflation.

edit

Building the Lotus Temple in any of my cities causes a CTD, refer to the save.

I appear to be getting an infinite loop. Still investigating

edit 2 Of course it is taking forever, it is changing the attitude between the player building the wonder and all the other players. While attitude is a number the only way we have of changing it is by adding 1 and testing if the attitude has changed enough. This could mean thousands of adding 1 in a loop!

 

[strategyonly]

on resources, in attached pic 1, i have a ruby mine on the left side of the city that was mined, but did not get credit for it, till i was close enough to the city with a different mine??

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Just got this python error when i clicked on the attached circled>>

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "CvRandomEventInterface", line 9460, in doBuildHorseBonus

AttributeError: 'CyUnit' object has no attribute 'setImprovementType'
ERR: Python function doBuildHorseBonus failed, module CvRandomEventInterface
Traceback (most recent call last):

File "CvRandomEventInterface", line 9498, in doBuildCowBonus

AttributeError: 'CyUnit' object has no attribute 'setImprovementType'
ERR: Python function doBuildCowBonus failed, module CvRandomEventInterface

This is a symptom of a new bug. I have just had the same sort of thing happen to a stack of captives. Before I would select "build slave building x" and one slave would build the building and be removed from the stack leaving me with the rest of the stack waiting for orders. Now I loose all the slaves in the stack and the building is built. IE each slave gets the order and executes it rather than saying that the building is already built so I can't do the order. This is new in v36 @TB any ideas?

 

[Thunderbrd]

We use BUG modular python. This means that you have to tell the event manager what method your python is using. That is done in the config folder in an XML of the same name. If you remove one method onGoodyReceived then you need to remove it from the config file. If you remove all the python then you need to remove the config file and the entry in the init.xml.

Interesting. I'll take a look at the init.xml for goody islands then. I'm only beginning to occasionally attempt a little python so forgive me if I'm totally in error with anything. The portion of Goody Islands that detailed replacing the land barbs with boats has been obsoleted by the code.

Don't forget that each hurry affects your inflation.

Another very good reason not to implement a hurry all function... it can get out of hand quicker than you realize with such an application.

I appear to be getting an infinite loop. Still investigating

edit 2 Of course it is taking forever, it is changing the attitude between the player building the wonder and all the other players. While attitude is a number the only way we have of changing it is by adding 1 and testing if the attitude has changed enough. This could mean thousands of adding 1 in a loop!

Sheesh... sounds terribly overengineered. Maybe the effect for this wonder isn't the best to include and something else could be designed that wouldn't cause so much delay and a potential infinite loop and ensuing crash (most likely from mem loss.)

This is a symptom of a new bug. I have just had the same sort of thing happen to a stack of captives. Before I would select "build slave building x" and one slave would build the building and be removed from the stack leaving me with the rest of the stack waiting for orders. Now I loose all the slaves in the stack and the building is built. IE each slave gets the order and executes it rather than saying that the building is already built so I can't do the order. This is new in v36 @TB any ideas?

It's strange because even if it had something to do with transporting back to another city afterwards, those units wouldn't trigger that effect since they aren't 'ideas' or 'subdued'. That being the only adjustment to outcomes I'm puzzled by how the problem has come up (and I THINK but I'm not sure that SOs initial report took place before my little tweak which would also point towards something else happening.)

Probably wouldn't be too tough to evaluate what is taking place if I could get a save that can replicate the effect as soon as I get into the game (the debug dll is slow.)

 

[strategyonly]

EDIT: pic 1, how many bombard units are necessary to get some point reduced. I have bombarded now 3 times with these and not one single point is reduced??

pic 2, Sparth can we get a newer btn for this, i dont like the "white" around the edges, looks out of place, thx . . . SO

 

[Yudishtira]

pic 3, Since i have the Wonder, Heroes Epic which give me 100% Mil Prod, does something like a -10% Mil Prod hurt, or it doesnt matter, it will stay at 100%??

I know nothing about these specific bonuses, but I don't think it's too much of a stretch to assert that +100% + -10% is probably +90% bonus.