Texas Teacher Gets 5 Years For Sex With 18-Year-Old Jocks
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Snorrius
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It is well-known thesis in the feministical discourse but not necessarily true or useful outside of it. Almost any relationships between man and women are unequal in this or that regard.
And if we talk about payed sex - it is equal as it can be. Sex market is one of the most elastic in the world and is regulated by fair and square market forces. It is also very honest - you get what you pay for, there are little "hidden costs" and psychological manipulations if you know the basic rules.
Snorrius
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I think you try to use psychological manipulation by exploiting my primal male instincts to provoke me to some irrational action or response because of the set of doubtful social rites and dogmas. I do not participate in such activity and prefer to follow my own Will, not the dogmas and instincts of others.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Wow, it's like they've resurrected Max Stirner. And then gave him brain damage.
Borachio
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@Snorrius
Oh no. Not at all. Believe me.
I'm sorry if you think I was trying to manipulate you. I simply state what I think is true. Or at least I try.
You, as you know, are a free agent. Certainly above any influence of mine. Of which I have none at all.
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law, after all?
Oh no. Not at all. Believe me.
I'm sorry if you think I was trying to manipulate you. I simply state what I think is true. Or at least I try.
You, as you know, are a free agent. Certainly above any influence of mine. Of which I have none at all.
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law, after all?
You are being too cheap...
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
No, cheap would have been comparing him to a brain-damaged Nietzsche. Stirner is a five-dollar reference.
Snorrius
Librivorator
Thanks for the name, I will put his works to my reading queue.
Indeed. Love is the law, love under will, bro.
Oh, I see. So you owe him five dolars then.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
That would hardly be very Stirnerian of me, would it? 
That would hardly be very Stirnerian of me, would it?
Yes, but the talk is about brain damaged Stirner, right?
caketastydelish
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Well, that argument doesn't make any sense.
I see.
innonimatu
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But in that case, was up to whom? Or in other words: are people to have authorized sexual trainers or what? The state gets to license this service? The state takes its meddling to the logical conclusion and imposes practical sex education by licensed teachers?
Think on it, the idea is ridiculous! People must be free to encounter whatever partners they will. Experience cannot come from anywhere else. And - no surprise - people will find partners where they spend a lot of time. High school and later university, for young adults who get into the age of trying sex around, is where they spend a lot of time (incidentally, forced by the state...). Most will go with colleagues, some will go with teachers. It's inevitable. Of course it must be criminalized when it is with children, they can't consent. It is a grey area with teenagers (and I'm saying teenagers keeping in mind that many countries actually have 16 or in some case even lower ages as ages of consent, and that's not really what we are discussing here) who, let's face it, in this particular case didn't seem to be at all ignorant of what they were getting. So make a rule banning it and fire the teachers who keep violating that rule. And with relations between teachers and adult students, just don't meddle.
And please, about all the talk on this discussion concerning what happens in the military, we should a sense of proportion! It's not the same thing, the training for obedience imposed there is very different from what happens in schools. Don't be disingenuous.
Actually, you don't, not in the countries I know of. The notion of re-incidence makes a distinction more about the times you were caught and presented to court than about the times you did something, at least for stuff like petty theft.
But, of course, this wasn't about petty theft, or public urination. It was about.... grand sex? A much more serious criminal offense!
If only my government abused me more...
You would've had her court-martialed and shot? Sure, it was bad conduct for a teacher. So, fire her and send her back to the boys.
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How unequal? There is no such thing as completely equal relationship.
Borachio
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Well, see, there's a context to my rather throw away remark.
The context was paying for sex in a brothel.
I do agree there's no such thing as a completely equal relationship, but bring "high finance" into it and the situation becomes rather skewed.
But, you must please yourself. Frequent all the brothels you like. I would too, but I'd be extremely circumspect about having sex in one - for a whole host of reasons. Maybe it's just me. Call me old-fashioned. Actually don't call me that. Brothels are really nothing new.
Snorrius
Librivorator
It is became equal like in any shop. You give money and receive service. You do not say to your haircutter that your relations are "unequal", do you?
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Well, yes, you do. Barbering even more so than most other service occupations, because tipping is involved.
Snorrius
Librivorator
Nobody prevents one to tip a sex worker is she made her job well.
