The Democratic Nomination

[Berzerker]

Clinton pushes gay military service and universal healthcare in 1993, and ran to the left of Obama in 2008. She’s not an anti progressive.

she voted to invade Iraq, he opposed the war

 

[Arakhor]

This shouldn't come as a surprise, but voting for military action is not necessarily either a left or right-wing thing.

 

[Hygro]

she voted to invade Iraq, he opposed the war

Yes and on other issues, other relations.

 

[Berzerker]

This shouldn't come as a surprise, but voting for military action is not necessarily either a left or right-wing thing.

Both left and right become more supportive of wars depending on which party is in the WH, but the 'peace' candidate won the 2008 Democrat's primaries. And then he hired the warmonger as secyofstate and they started more wars and the left didn't care much.

 

[Hygro]

Both left and right become more supportive of wars depending on which party is in the WH, but the 'peace' candidate won the 2008 Democrat's primaries. And then he hired the warmonger as secyofstate and they started more wars and the left didn't care much.

At the time I remember thinking Obama’s antiwar claim sure was easy when he didn’t have any skin in the game.

 

[ThERat]

This is why so many people hope Bernie will win. Well, in the latest polls, he is the most liked Senator, he leads in the polls.

 

[rah]

M4ALL polls so well amongst Democrats that even the moderates have had to coopt one version or another of that name. Do you really think the voters that the article describes are going to show up for a more likable candidate with Hillary's policies?

Not in states like California or New York, but those votes don't really matter. What counts are the half dozen battleground states, and yes, I think voters will turn out there. But you have to work for them. Hillary didn't. (or at least not hard enough)

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Andrew Yang is likeable and charismatic. I like most of his platform but his stance on charter schools is a dealbreaker. He was on Bill Maher last night and killed it.

 

[Sommerswerd]

I like Yang too but he is just way too far behind.

 

[Ajidica]

Andrew Yang is likeable and charismatic. I like most of his platform but his stance on charter schools is a dealbreaker. He was on Bill Maher last night and killed it.

He's likeable and smart, but a president needs a lot more than those skills to be effective - such as overseeing the federal bureaucracy. Running the federal government isn't like a company, as even experienced CEO's like Rex Tillerson found out as he was driving the State Department into the ground.
Plus, I simply don't trust him enough to not fill his cabinet and administration with Wall Street fintech and big data weirdos. That said, whoever ends up as the Democratic nominee should appoint him to some sort of "Presidential Commission on Technology and Innovation".

 

[Lexicus]

and ran to the left of Obama in 2008

Blatant rewrite of history. She ran to Obama's right. She even pioneered the racist tactics the Republicans would attempt to use against Obama for the next eight years. You may have forgotten about "hardworking Americans, white Americans" but I haven't.

It's because Republicans feed their base while moderate Democrats dismiss theirs.

It's also because the country's institutions are tilted toward minority rule.

 

[Ajidica]

Blatant rewrite of history. She ran to Obama's right. She even pioneered the racist tactics the Republicans would attempt to use against Obama for the next eight years. You may have forgotten about "hardworking Americans, white Americans" but I haven't.

I'm not so sure. If I remember right, Obama got a lot of support from the Finance wing of the Democratic Party and relied on his rhetoric to paper over his pretty centrist economic agenda. Clinton I seem to recall was trying to win back the 'Bubba vote' and blue collar industrial/rural Democrats.

 

[Hygro]

Blatant rewrite of history. She ran to Obama's right. She even pioneered the racist tactics the Republicans would attempt to use against Obama for the next eight years. You may have forgotten about "hardworking Americans, white Americans" but I haven't.



It's also because the country's institutions are tilted toward minority rule.

Thanks for your blatant rewrite of history.