The POTUS decides to be a chicken, pulls out of Afghanistan

the defence system physically taken down by contractors from Afghan helicopters as reported a few posts above should be the SAM dedection and chaff / flare deployment . Making it impossible for the Afghan Army to reinforce its surrounded outposts because Pakistan and Qatar would immediately introduce MANPADS as soon as Americans left . Despite the thing that they would be second class anyhow because American "concerns" that it would be immediately comprimised and like delivered to China . Iraq's F-16s were like famous for being the least capable , with the possible exception of Venezuela's (which should have been unsupported by American industry since the 1990s) and almost the most expensive and totally not allowed to be used against lSlL , with contractors running . Never minding the claims that some high ranking Defence Ministry person or maybe the top commander of the lraqi Airforce could not read or write , but he knew his "duty" as a Kurd .

army of Petrol given the boot out of Afghanistan , but smarties from the Party think-tank insist the Taliban has asked New Turkey to operate the airfield . Which apparently was protected by a detachment of the now dead Turkish Military as early as since 2002 . Most people will think that's about keeping a leg in the opium cargo stuff .

anyone following the stuff will have noticed an endless ranting about the Bagram Airbase , which was abandoned in July , with the Americans turning off the lights and Afghans taking about two hours to notice , which also provided an excuse for the plunder by the local tribes , before order could be established in the morning . Which is most likely to go dow in history as the moment Taliban's victory was assured . That Americans would be running in the dark of the night , instead of providing support in years to come . That the writing was on the wall .


anyone following the stuff will have also noticed a lot of Westerners call Mesud a fool , an empty suit that only has the name of his illustrious father . If he had any brains he would have "invaded" the airbase and gained an airforce . That he is just a puppet of the former spymaster of Kabil who gets to be a regular war criminal and war profiteer . Except the American stampede was like specifically meant to prevent such stuff . Pencşir is nearby and Ahmed Şah Mesud held the field for a long time . Even without the contractors , there are many countries that fly the UH-60 and even the A-29 could be "hacked" . India blamed ; opposing Pakistan at every turn , now boosted by Chinese support to Taliban ...

only miscalculation was the speed , the Afghan Army disintegrating well before its expiry date . Naturally now there are Americans who want to occupy Bagram , and using the Pencşir as a base . Let's say for evacuating people after the Taliban deadline . Which will mean presence , which will then deny lranian experts entry . Of the kind who routed Jihadist presence in Damascus , with using MiG-29s as ground attack aircraft . Indians have MiG-29s ... People questioning bipartisan US lawmaker presence in Kabil ? Read that as promise to the Taliban , to stop them challenging the valley and let starvation do its thing . Despite the Pakistani internet boiling with calls for revenge , Taliban offers talks and stuff ... Oh my , anyone afraid of the big bad Fulcrum ? Like how it is going to land in the place anyhow ?
 
82,000 87,900 people airlifted out since the end of July.
 
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Blackwater Founder Erik Prince Charging $6,500 for Seat on Flight Out of Kabul



If the leader is moral blind and all-out opportunistic like this, posses zero sympathy, doesn't understand the concept of humanity and shame, I wonder what kind of personnel he dispatch in Afghanistan and Iraq? Bet they are bunches of marauder and brigands. His corporation, iirc, even militarily stronger and richer than many small nations, the capitalization of military is really alarming, this guy would be profit for another venture to Afghanistan, I imagine he will welcome another war like a goal in a grand business project.
Jen Psaki condemned Blackwater for charging a big amount of money and said the U.S. government was flying people for free.
https://www.businessinsider.com/jen...r-6500-kabul-evacuation-flight-tickets-2021-8

Also soulless and heartless, the U.S. up until
6 days ago charged $2000+ to get out of Afghanistan.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/americans-flights-afghanistan/
 
Worth reading, as it lays out another perspective to the collapse
But there is also the other factors like the increased capabilities of the Taliban, the drug trade and flawed stratergy

I Commanded Afghan Troops This Year. We Were Betrayed.
So why did the Afghan military collapse? The answer is threefold.
First, former President Donald Trump’s February 2020 peace deal with the Taliban in Doha doomed us
Second, we lost contractor logistics and maintenance support critical to our combat operations
Third, the corruption endemic in Mr. Ghani’s government that flowed to senior military leadership and long crippled our forces on the ground irreparably hobbled us.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/25/opinion/afghanistan-taliban-army.html
 
Jen Psaki condemned Blackwater for charging a big amount of money and said the U.S. government was flying people for free.
https://www.businessinsider.com/jen...r-6500-kabul-evacuation-flight-tickets-2021-8

Also soulless and heartless, the U.S. up until
6 days ago charged $2000+ to get out of Afghanistan.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/americans-flights-afghanistan/

Is this for real? No one commenting on this? Actually this is quite disgusting, it is shamelessly capitalizing on everything at every given opportunity.

From the invasion till the evacuation not one of it is sincere: full of fake reasons, media propaganda make-up and smear campaign, business, profiting over death and suffering. Saying one thing but meant another thing.
 
From afar you might think these guys are NATO soldiers, but in fact they are Taliban elite Squad Badri 313. They look like NATO soldiers and equip themselves with American kits that are left behind. This brigade was founded in 2012.

 
I found some numbers that I think explain a lot about the problem with the "reconstruction" effort in Afghanistan, change in GDP and poverty rate. We only have 3 time points for poverty rate:

[table=head]
Year|GDP|Poverty
2007|$9.748 B |33.7%
2011|$17.804 B |38.3%
2016|$18.018 B |54.5%
[/table]

So in this time GDP almost doubled, at the same time as the poverty rate increased by 62%. No wonder the general population was not wholly supportive of the old regime.

Spoiler Graphs :

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I found some numbers that I think explain a lot about the problem with the "reconstruction" effort in Afghanistan, change in GDP and poverty rate. We only have 3 time points for poverty rate:

[table=head]
Year|GDP|Poverty
2007|$9.748 B |33.7%
2011|$17.804 B |38.3%
2016|$18.018 B |54.5%
[/table]

So in this time GDP almost doubled, at the same time as the poverty rate increased by 62%. No wonder the general population was not wholly supportive of the old regime.

Spoiler Graphs :

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USA is in that track, same as Russia.

Panjshir creeping into mainstream news.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58329527

Only a week after reddit.
 
Talking of reddit, they are reporting that Tehreek-e-Insaf (party of premier Imran Khan) leader Neelam Irshad Sheikh said on national TV the Taliban had made it clear that it would join hands with Pakistan in Kashmir. “The Taliban say they are with us and are ready to help us in Kashmir.”

I am not at all sure it is not Indian nationalist propaganda. This has a video of the TV show (in foreign) and this a text description.
 
Talking of reddit, they are reporting that Tehreek-e-Insaf (party of premier Imran Khan) leader Neelam Irshad Sheikh said on national TV the Taliban had made it clear that it would join hands with Pakistan in Kashmir. “The Taliban say they are with us and are ready to help us in Kashmir.”

I am not at all sure it is not Indian nationalist propaganda. This has a video of the TV show (in foreign) and this a text description.

That's interesting. Pakistan relation with UAE and Saudi Arabia also went sour because of how they are silent regarding the Kashmir issue.

Perhaps this is part of the mutual relation of their co-existence. What I understand is that the current Taliban able to maintain relation with China, Pakistan, Russia, Iran and Qatar. While having a bad relation with Saudi, UAE, India, Turkey (surprisingly) and the West also. Several of conference and negotiation are never host by Saudi or UAE regime anymore, but it's host by Qatar or even Iran.

I don't know if my reading is correct, but that's how I see it now.
 
Is this for real? No one commenting on this? Actually this is quite disgusting, it is shamelessly capitalizing on everything at every given opportunity.

From the invasion till the evacuation not one of it is sincere: full of fake reasons, media propaganda make-up and smear campaign, business, profiting over death and suffering. Saying one thing but meant another thing.

As always. Depends on who. You are looking at contract killers, who are different from aid workers, who are different from...
 
Explosion outside Kabul airport, casualties unclear: Pentagon

The US military confirmed Thursday that a large explosion occurred outside the Kabul airport in Afghanistan, as the US-led airlift of thousands continued inside the compound.
“We can confirm an explosion outside Kabul airport. Casualties are unclear at this time. We will provide additional details when we can,” said Pentagon Spokesman John Kirby.
US and allied officials have said they had intelligence that suicide bombers were threatening to attack the airport.​

They knew something was up, they had been warning people to stay away all day.

Spoiler Wheelbarrow ambulances. Some blood on victims. :
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Latest: A Taliban official has told Al Jazeera that at least 11 people have been killed in the blast outside Kabul airport.

Unclear who set off explosion: AJ correspondent

“One Taliban contact told me that they believe that the Americans were destroying equipment at the time. In contrast to that, we understand the ISIL threat was quite high here,” Belis said.
 
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Unclear who set off explosion: AJ correspondent

ISIS, in this context Islamic State of Khorasan, there are already warning from US military (perhaps from the work of their intelligent services) area around the air-port are not save and peoples need to stay away due the possible ISIS
 
ISIS, in this context Islamic State of Khorasan, there are already warning from US military (perhaps from the work of their intelligent services) area around the air-port are not save and peoples need to stay away due the possible ISIS
Yeah, I think that is clear now:

Second explosion outside airport confirmed: Pentagon

Explosion reportedly a suicide bombing: AJ correspondent

John Kirby Pentagon Press Sec.: We can confirm that the explosion at the Abbey Gate was the result of a complex attack that resulted in a number of US & civilian casualties. We can also confirm at least one other explosion at or near the Baron Hotel, a short distance from Abbey Gate.
It is like how bad can it get for these people. And how is this going to help IS-K? Killing people (and maiming others) for no gain.
 
Soviets used to place manned tail guns in transports and bombers until recently, but there are also a number of western post ww2 planes with tail guns, mostly remotely controlled and radar guided. However some early versions of the B52 with manned turrets even shot down a couple of mig-21s fighters over Vietnam. Dont think tail guns in general are of much use today though.
 
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