The Thread Where We Discuss Guns and Gun Control

[Commodore]

But it was just an accident. People do get confused and walk into the wrong apartment. It happens. It's not her fault that the occupant of the apartment was such a dangerous looking individual that she felt like her only option was to shoot him without thinking. Natural reflex.

Which is why she is being charged with manslaughter and not murder. And charging her with manslaughter makes it much more likely that she will be convicted since the prosecution doesn't have to prove there was an intent to kill.

which could amend the charges against her, up to first-degree murder.

Which would be a mistake. A charge of manslaughter here is pretty much a guaranteed conviction, while charging her with murder will make it easier for her to beat the charges. That was the mistake the prosecution made with Zimmerman. If they had charged him with manslaughter instead of murder, that trial would have likely turned out much different.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Which is why she is being charged with manslaughter and not murder. And charging her with manslaughter makes it much more likely that she will be convicted since the prosecution doesn't have to prove there was an intent to kill.

I was running a pool on who would fail to recognize the sarcasm, or at least act like they didn't. Fortunately I don't have to pay, since the house money was on you.

 

[Farm Boy]

Which is why she is being charged with manslaughter and not murder. And charging her with manslaughter makes it much more likely that she will be convicted since the prosecution doesn't have to prove there was an intent to kill.



Which would be a mistake. A charge of manslaughter here is pretty much a guaranteed conviction, while charging her with murder will make it easier for her to beat the charges. That was the mistake the prosecution made with Zimmerman. If they had charged him with manslaughter instead of murder, that trial would have likely turned out much different.

You charge her with manslaughter and first degree murder, and the varieties in-between, no? Isn't that what we generally do? I mean, she could be charged with negligent trespass or some bs, but lets be real. She wasted somebody in their own house for no apparent reason and the most compelling explaination she can come up with is, "Oops." When somebody gets blitzed legally in a bar then goes out and "oopses," we put them away for more than manslaughter.

how would you expect someone to react if the elevator door opened and there was a crocodile inside?

 

[Sommerswerd]

Not that kind of crocodile

 

[Farm Boy]

Iono, sounds like my kind of crocodile!

 

[Lexicus]

https://www.propublica.org/article/...gilantes-shot-african-americans-with-impunity

Good Guys With Guns

 

[Lexicus]

Good Guy Who Prints Guns

http://time.com/5400664/cody-wilson-3d-printed-guns-charged-sexual-assault/

Texan Behind 3D-Printed Gun Legal Battle Charged With Sexual Assault of a Minor

 

[EgonSpengler]

Not that kind of crocodile

I think he meant these:

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm very concerned if the elevator door opens and I see that. There is no freakin' GRAVITY in that elevator! No way am I going in there! Might reach in and grab one or two of the floating chocolate goodies though.

 

[Farm Boy]

Spoiler !!! :

 

[EgonSpengler]

I'm very concerned if the elevator door opens and I see that. There is no freakin' GRAVITY in that elevator! No way am I going in there! Might reach in and grab one or two of the floating chocolate goodies though.

I mean, you'd be a fool not to, right?

 

[Lexicus]

I mean, you'd be a fool not to, right?

Well, you know what they say, it's all chocolate and cream filling until someone gets pulled through an interdimensional portal into an eldritch realm of pure damnation

 

[Sommerswerd]

Spoiler !!! :

Where's @Snerk ?

 

[Broken_Erika]

Where's @Snerk ?

In the Video, obviously.

 

[Lexicus]

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/di...neighbor-dispute-trash/#.W6P1xMW1b8I.facebook

More good guys with guns
If this hadn't been caught on tape, I bet these two would be lauded as having rid the world of some filthy criminal who tried to kill them

 

[Commodore]

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/di...neighbor-dispute-trash/#.W6P1xMW1b8I.facebook

More good guys with guns
If this hadn't been caught on tape, I bet these two would be lauded as having rid the world of some filthy criminal who tried to kill them

The propaganda is strong with you my son. Funny how you post every story that makes gun owners look bad, but won't post any of the stories that make them look good.

https://nypost.com/2017/10/11/robbery-thwarted-when-victim-pulls-out-concealed-gun/

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/...-when-he-shoots-and-kills-suspect-mid-stickup

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...er-fatally-shoots-robber-20180108-story.html#

That's three good guys with guns compared to your one.

 

[cardgame]

Well, stopping a robbery is nice and all, but how does it compare to a murder?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

“That probably would have been much worse if there hadn’t been a customer in there armed.”

Sure...she saw employees and customers running out of the building crying and screaming, heavily armed SWAT officers making an assault style entry, in her own words "it was just a madhouse." It would no doubt have been so much worse if the pharmacy staff had just handed the robber a bottle of oxy and sent him quietly on his way. Thank goodness for a good guy with a gun opening fire in a crowded store.

 

[Lexicus]

Funny how you post every story that makes gun owners look bad, but won't post any of the stories that make them look good.

Killing people over property crimes doesn't make them look good to me

 

[Sommerswerd]

The propaganda is strong with you my son. Funny how you post every story that makes gun owners look bad, but won't post any of the stories that make them look good.

Cause that's your job. That's just how a debate works. You have a narrative you're arguing, and you have to go find the stuff to support it, while the other "side" does the same. I don't see you posting many stories that make gun owners look bad, and I don't blame you for that or think you're committing some kind of foul for not doing so. That's just how a debate works.

So it doesn't make sense to dismiss an article @Lexicus posts about actual events as "propaganda" simply because they refute your narrative, then post your own articles as if they're somehow different, simply because they support your narrative. If his articles are "propaganda" to be dismissed out of hand, then that makes your articles the same thing, right?