The youth of today

Rhymes said:
Thats USA youth.

That's all youth.

It rather annoys me when everyone criticizes the USA as being in some way the only place on earth where people do things that aren't ultra-intellectual all of the time. I didn't know every youth in Montreal spent every weekend sitting quietly in their rooms reading Shakespeare. If the USA is so bad then why does it seem that Canada and Europe are both clammering to adopt our culture (by which I mean the popularity of American films and American fast food and American popular cloths and things like that)? And why is it that whenever exchange students come to my school from Europe they talk about how boring the USA is in terms of partys and sex?
 
Actually the youth of the '70s were far worse than the youth of today, at least in the US. I remember at the time that most adults seemed to think that our society was on the verge of total colapse. Crime was worse then, hard drugs were everywhere, teen pregnency was much more common than it is now, etc.. In general the kids were running amok. Obviously this has all since been airbrushed out of the popular perception of that decade today.
 
elfangor801 said:
Blah, the youth of today (I'm 14) is semi-alright. There are smart kids and good people who will turn out just fine, but there are a LOT of idiots who are going to find themselves on welfare in about 10 years.
That's the whole point of the thread - it's not okay. Kids aren't getting educated, and so they are having kids themselves - which obviously contributes to the problem. The whole gangster thing is associated with it in the sense that without brains, one needs brauns. It's essentially a reverse form of revolution.
 
sourboy said:
That's the whole point of the thread - it's not okay. Kids aren't getting educated, and so they are having kids themselves - which obviously contributes to the problem. The whole gangster thing is associated with it in the sense that without brains, one needs brauns. It's essentially a reverse form of revolution.

I know you didn't say it is, but I would like to point out that it is not the kids fault that they aren't being educated. Seems to me that schools today would rather have a flunky that feels good about themself than a smart and intellectually curious student who might criticize himself if he does bad on a test.

Also, in my opinion the gangster thing was not set about from the notion that "without brains, one needs brauns". I think it is more like "without respect, one gets together with a bunch of people and forces respect".
 
elfangor801 said:
I like to call it Geometry...
The problem is that it isn't just "average" (stupid) classes that are having this problem, some of my AP classes are like that. IMO we need stricter teachers and parents.
 
Monk said:
I know you didn't say it is, but I would like to point out that it is not the kids fault that they aren't being educated. Seems to me that schools today would rather have a flunky that feels good about themself than a smart and intellectually curious student who might criticize himself if he does bad on a test.
It's 3 fold, the students, the parents, and the teachers.

Monk said:
Also, in my opinion the gangster thing was not set about from the notion that "without brains, one needs brauns". I think it is more like "without respect, one gets together with a bunch of people and forces respect".
Gangsters don't exactly 'get together with a bunch of people and force respect' through waxing intelluctually, hence the 'brauns' reference.
 
Arminius said:
Immature people are annoying. And chronological age often has nothing to do with maturity.
Agreed. The sarcasm in the opening post has some base to it, but saying that the current leading generation is wrong, isn't a legitimate argument for our generation to be wrong, as well. :goodjob:

Point taken afcourse ,but then the phrase "the youth of today" is an awful generalisation in itself to ,almost stating that chronologicy=wisdom ,combine it with "you should have respect for elders" wich seems to have to come uncondtionally ,it paint's a picture that elders are always right and youngsters wrong.

I know you didn't say it is, but I would like to point out that it is not the kids fault that they aren't being educated. Seems to me that schools today would rather have a flunky that feels good about themself than a smart and intellectually curious student who might criticize himself if he does bad on a test.

Dicipline seems to be more important in shools than intellect ,don't try to critisize a teacher when he says or does something wrong ,the teachers seem to be always right nomather what.
 
Monk said:
That's all youth.

It rather annoys me when everyone criticizes the USA as being in some way the only place on earth where people do things that aren't ultra-intellectual all of the time.

you cant blame the rest of the world if it has a opinion of the us as anti-intellectual,take a look at your president.altough i am not fond of generalizing and putting people in shelves,i think at least presidents should be first of all intellectuals..
 
h4ppy said:
The problem is that it isn't just "average" (stupid) classes that are having this problem, some of my AP classes are like that. IMO we need stricter teachers and parents.
Acctually, stricter teachers and parents may not be a stupid idea after all.

Though I think the best solution would be the need for a certificate before you could have children. And if someone got a child without such a certificate, they get some very expensive fines. Though the state would then have to care for the kid's education and such..

Hm, or maybe just getting back to stricter parents.
 
I remembered one of my teachers reading a text by some greek guy written two thousands years ago depicting the Athenian youth as corrupt, decadent, violent, with no values, blablabla.

THERE IS NO SUCH THINGS AS THE GOOD OLD DAYS.
 
Acctually, stricter teachers and parents may not be a stupid idea after all.

Well, one thing I noticed is that when I lived in the South, everyone was a lot better behaved, and when I got up here to the Blue States, everyone is running wild.....I think I know where part of this is coming from. Like, over summer two years ago, I was a "Junior Leader" at this dumb camp thing at the park down the street. It was horrible. I know this seems like all kids would be like this, but the ones I knew in the South weren't. I mean, whenever they didn't get their way, temper tantrum, whenever we played a game, and they were losing, temper tantrum, whenever someone tagged them, etc, temper tantrum. And the older counsilors wouldn't let me do anything about it! They just called me a crazy conservative and shrugged. Maybe this starts younger then you think, on PBS and the like, and is just continued in public schools.
 
Strider said:
The youth of today, and I'm fairly insulted to include myself among them, is abunch of sex-crazed idoits who lives there whole life to "just have fun."
Yup, that's me.

Perhaps people should be more concerned about getting their own lives in check and less about how other people are going to destroy the world with their middle finger attitudes.
 
Bright day
I will go aganist the stream and say that youth people today are in many areas better than ever before. We do not have sex everyday with numbers of our cousins, we do not drink booze regulary, we have some education and more.

The "problem" as I understand it is invention of a "teenager". For most of our history girl was adult with first menstruation, boy usually between 14-16. Children were either too stupid to argue with parents or being parents themselves already.
 
Mise said:
Perhaps people should be more concerned about getting their own lives in check and less about how other people are going to destroy the world with their middle finger attitudes.

...exactly
 
Masquerouge said:
I remembered one of my teachers reading a text by some greek guy written two thousands years ago depicting the Athenian youth as corrupt, decadent, violent, with no values, blablabla.

THERE IS NO SUCH THINGS AS THE GOOD OLD DAYS.
You mean this?
Our youth now loves luxury, they have bad manners, contempt for
authority, disrespect for older people, children nowadays are tyrants...
they contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble their
food, and tyrannize their teachers." ~Socrates.
:)
 
Strider said:
The youth of today, and I'm fairly insulted to include myself among them, is abunch of sex-crazed idoits who lives there whole life to "just have fun."

As much as I'm concerned, they can go kill themselves. There are some good ones around, but the large majority of them needs a huge reality check.

Well I cannot say you are totally wrong. But again why should they go help someone if they were brought up the way they are? The world is very diverse, but I must say there are people like that and I'm not happy with it. But it was like that since the beginning of all. Just this time it might be dangerous for us all to be on the same planet...
 
TheDuckOfFlanders said:
Sometimes i hear the goold old remark from a senior responsible adult ,oh this youth of today ,how will the world end with them?

Oh this youth of today ,it's so materialistic. They all have to have a mobile phone ,100$ shoe's and equally expensive clothes.Meanwhile Grownup's in Sweden are producing mobile phone's en masse to buy them a living ,sales are important.A investor recently opened a shoe factory in Burma making use of flexible labor laws to pay his workmen a dollar a day ,most of the costs goes in marketing impressing young people that this product is cool and if you don't wear it youll be desoicialized from youre generation ,so presented the seazoned marketeer in his Guchi suit his product ,afterall he has to earn his food on the table.

A grownup sit's in his prefferably villa with surrounding garden and matching SUV in his oakwood furniture looking at his broadview TV watching kids starve in Africa and cries foul ,moves his butt at his "hardearned" Turkey with 3 variety's of vegetable's filled table and critisized his son who just didn't eat up the leg he took of the Turkey wich now goes to waste ,shame you son if it was war you would have valued the smaller pieces of meat on that leg.100 kilometers from him peasent's are destroying a few tons of food as it went in mass production that year ,prices must be stabilized.

Valuable natural resource's are squandered at worrying rate's to produce for parts product's that are in itself waste.Carppoling? no thank you Mister i rather are comfterable alone in my luxury spacey car filled with Supermarket product's that in itself have more wrap around them than product in it.
No worry's ,by the time the resource's are out were already dead.This youth of today? No respect!
Give throw them a hard deserved product and theyl hardly respect you for it.
We worked hard to kill of all the nature in our surrounding to Flood it with cosy homes and parking lots ,and now they are vandalizing it!

Our society is grayening they say ,a large poppulation of pension elegible people will have to be supported by a small amount of young people ,a burden ,for later that is.Don't let us worry about it now anyway ,while our economy's are still strong and this mass consuming wealth can still be upheld ,maybe still for a few years ,a decade or 2 maybe.
A young student at shool is more occupied with SMSing to his mate's in class than listening to the lessons ,oh cries the the teacher ,how will society ever mold you into a senseless working drone to upkeep our by hard work created exuberant consuming society ,fear for my pension i do.
Youll be a failure ,be thrown in for the dirty job's in youre proffesional life later until you jum before a train ending the depressing future of youre life.

Oh this youth of today ,watch them rave in hard music filled disco's with drug's running trough their veins ,the 200 pound weithing man eating his 10 stages menu in the French cottage restaurant over his 8th glass of Chateau Lafitte 1787 shake's his head in dissapointment.

I may be very sarcasticly here ,but am i the only person of this generation that is sick of the negative generalizations made on his generation while seeing the inheritance of a sick ,egoistical and unsustainable society created by grownups wich are giving "the right example"?


(Most of) The youth of today are spoiled, over-privelaged, lazy, and soft. However, that is generally a product of the safety-nazis and middle-aged soccer Mom's being overprotective and using television and the internet as baby-sitting tools. Seniors have every reason to feel the way they do, and they are right. Remember, just because something is good for the economy doesn't mean it is good for your family. People want too much stuff these days. I hear lots of whining about Dad and Mom having to work full time to support a family. Perhaps if they didnt have to own three cars, have TVs and DVD players in every room, etc etc etc, Mom could stay home. During the "Good Old Days" of the 1950s, no child had their own room in a multi-child household. Families had one television, maybe. They did things like, and prepare yourself, reading books (god forbid), went outside and played, and most actually did some real chores around the house. Kids use to go to school and be able to use power tools and join shooting clubs (firearms in school, no kidding), and play shirts and skins basketball. Nowadays you generally cant use power tools, firearms, and shirts and skins basketball has been eliminted cause of ****** kids who are "too sensitive". Our children are being turned into pansies.
 
The youth is not drunk enough! Gimme beer.
 
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