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I have a certain point of view that doesn't involve taking a firm, re-defined "side" on the political spectrum, and I view the more extreme elements of both wings as detrimental to society and politics. But I am derided for this, and called all manners of analogous terms for egotistical and self-righteous. But arrogantly and pompously talking down to me (or anyone else) from an extreme partisan viewpoint is not considered the same - even if the attitude and tenor of the rhetoric is identical. EXPLAIN!


:lmao:

I'd hoped you'd learn what you sounded like by now, but..."EXPLAIN!"? Seriously? You're giving orders now? That's just...oh, that's precious!

I mean, you didn't even ask a question , and now here you are, in parody of yourself, screaming orders at strangers on the internet. It's really great. Do it again!
 
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I'd hoped you'd learn what you sounded like by now, but..."EXPLAIN!"? Seriously? You're giving orders now? That's just...oh, that's precious!

Do you have any idea what you sound like, while you throw stones in large volleys from your glass house?
 
Do you have any idea what you sound like, while you throw stones in large volleys from your glass house?
I'm having fun with this! Got any more orders, Corporal Himmelstoss?
 
I'm having fun with this! Got any more orders, Corporal Himmelstoss?

Well, I've fed the troll enough. I wouldn't want you to get fat, our try to follow me out of the national park. Have a good night!

Moderator Action: Calling people trolls is trolling, just so you know. Mind the name calling. --LM
 
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"Both sides are bad" is seductive... I'll grant you that... makes you feel aloof a hell. But the practical reality is that it helps Conservatives way more.

Critical Support for Democrats as the lesser evil doesn't help the Republicans. But when you (royal you) act like Democrats can't be criticized because it only helps the Republicans, that absolutely helps the Capitalists.
 
Critical Support for Democrats as the lesser evil doesn't help the Republicans. But when you (royal you) act like Democrats can't be criticized because it only helps the Republicans, that absolutely helps the Capitalists.

This is actually a good point. I know a few people on another strategy game forum who say, when I go complain about the relic that is the EC, or Federalism allowing institutional inequality of "States' Rights," or over representation of rural voters in small, dirt-poor, socially backward states over urban voters in the whole scheme, they say the United States "is not a Democracy, it's a Republic." And then I respond that that makes sense, given the other Republics that existed at the time the Philadelphia Convention was convened - the Dutch Republic, the Most Serene Republic of Venice, the Genoan Republic, the Florentine Republic, the Republic of Pisa, the Republic of Ragusa, and the de facto independent Hanseatic City-State Republics along the Banks of the Rhine and the Baltic Coast, were also run thoroughly and completely by corrupt, self-serving Plutocrats. For some reason, these individuals on this forum don't tend to like that response.
 
Are you saying Bush is ONLY indictable for massive deficits? He's the biggest war criminal AND the biggest violator of the U.S. Constitution in my lifetime (and I'm 44 this January). And, when may I ask, is the U.S. Government, supposedly fighting "Terror" going to bring to justice one of the worst terrorist organizations - by the stated current definition of a terrorist organization distributed by the U.S. Department of State, in fact - in the post-WW2 era - the Central Intelligence Agency?
he was solely stating that republicans can do what they fight against similar to how democrats can do what they fight against.

I always blame Cheney. ;)
my favorite Republican.

The OP and thread makes the error that all liberals are nice people and that all conservatives are evil people.
No, you made that up in your mind.

@Owen Glyndwr , I don’t think that changes things.

but actually think and consider each issue, ..
Or at least each adjective ;D
Sometimes it's hard to tell on these forums. Some people deadpan very well, and some say the most ludicrous of things with the utmost conviction. I'm sure you've seen it too.
I guess I have the almost two decade privilege but it’s not so hard.

You'll have to forgive my lack of conformity to artificial, contrived, and forced Neo-Manichaean thinking, but most of the MANY competing factions and interests are bad. It's not REALLY a purely two-sided battle, it's just dressed up that way deceptively for an ulterior motive.
Oh yes oh no I’m out of rum.
For truly you, a superior mind, are above such PETTY, idiotic, neo-Manichaean, primitive, harebrained, savage, STUPID, neo-Manichaean, mindless, thoughtless, DROOLING, mindless, inferior, lesser, dunderheaded, childish, SOPHOMORIC, neo-Manichaean, neurotic, DELUDED, insane, neo-Manichaean, vacuous, facile, FRIVOLOUS, vapid, INANE concepts such as "recognizing the differences between political parties" or "humor" or "punctuation" as you have evolved BEYOND such PITIFUL things and are wise and all-knowing enough to see the DELUDED neo-Manichaean weaknesses of the FEEBLE minds of the inferior youth of these days, and you BEYOND good and evil and see things purely through THOUGHT and REASON and are ENLIGHTENED by your own INTELLECT
Definitely out of rum.

Why is calling out the destructive and detrimental influence of Neo-Manichaean thinking and ideology on society - which is plain and visible - always considered the height of arrogance, conceit, and self-righteous narcissism here, but talking down to, and deriding someone, from a standpoint purely of one extreme of the spectrum or another is just standard discourse, and is, in fact, expected behaviour? Can anyone answer me this question WITHOUT being an a$$?
Well, what do you think? I’ll give you a hint I opened this thread and I’m also pretty loudly on record saying I’ve never seen two peoples politics be the same although the CFC post liking mafia makes some people imagine otherwise.

Why do you think people are reacting to you this way when they share your opinion?

Indeed, believers in neo-Manichaeanism - that mindset which LESSER and more PRIMITIVE minds than yourself, namely, literally everyone, FOOLISHLY call "black-and-white thinking" - are utterly INFERIOR and DELUDED to those who wisely SNEER at them for IDIOTICALLY believing that any given political party could POSSIBLY be any better or worse than another, and such DELUDED, arrogant, narcissistic, self-righteous, CONCEITED, neo-Manichaean, snobby, HAUGHTY, high-horse-riding, IVORY-TOWER-DWELLING, elitist, sneering, puffed-up, down-the-nose-looking, hoity-toity, silver-spoon-in-mouth-born-with FOOLS actually believe that one can learn such differences by observing, instead of simply KNOWING, like the wise man who solemnly bowed his head, that all things are EXACTLY the same and instead of clumsily fumbling for "evidence," that crutch of LESSER beings, or noticing that one party in the United States is clearly more manipulative, hostile to human rights, deceitful, pathologically dishonest, prone to succumbing to cults of personality, and committed to a corporate militaristic white supremacist theocracy than the other, which, while capitalist-dominated and often corrupt, is at least not entirely so, and harbors at least some candidates who are working to eliminate these weaknesses and oppose white supremacy, and theocracy, and corporate rule, and so on, they could simply launch a THESAURUS ASSAULT and YELL and INTIMIDATE with fearsome run-on-sentences and DESTROY their opposition with FACTS and LOGIC, which is far simpler and requires less work
Please, I’m seriously out :lol:
 
he was solely stating that republicans can do what they fight against similar to how democrats can do what they fight against.

my favorite Republican.

No, you made that up in your mind.

@Owen Glyndwr , I don’t think that changes things.


Or at least each adjective ;D
I guess I have the almost two decade privilege but it’s not so hard.


Oh yes oh no I’m out of rum.
Definitely out of rum.


Well, what do you think? I’ll give you a hint I opened this thread and I’m also pretty loudly on record saying I’ve never seen two peoples politics be the same although the CFC post liking mafia makes some people imagine otherwise.

Why do you think people are reacting to you this way when they share your opinion?

Please, I’m seriously out :lol:

So, basically, an entire post of caustic, sarcastic, and not even that clever or witty commentary that has absolutely no productive value or contribution to the conversation...

At least @Broken_Erika has more wit, and more brevity...
 
It took me a long time to learn gentle hazing is a gift. You are invited.
 
So, basically, an entire post of caustic, sarcastic, and not even that clever or witty commentary that has absolutely no productive value or contribution to the conversation...

At least @Broken_Erika has more wit, and more brevity...
You know, regardless of how I sometimes agree and sometimes disagree with the content of your messages, there is one thing I have to tell you (and have already told but it wasn't well received) : the real thing that would tremendously help what you say being received, is to actually add a bit of brevity and remove a ton of adjectives. Your writing habits kinda make it hard to goes beyond form to reach the substance.
And I'm actually saying this in the spirit of being helpful, not passive-agressive.
 
Kim Kardashian?
 
@CurtSibling OP's clearly not assuming all liberals are nice people or that all conservatives are evil:
I know a few. One of them pretty apolitical. He has serious problems with people outside straight and cis, at least conceptually. Many of you in other threads have talked about cutting such friends out. You know what this dude said to me when I was telling him about throwing a queer-scene after hours party before Texas? I was like, probably not your scene. He was like “probably not but I’m working on that”. The idea that it could be something he sees as personal problem to work on is a huge breakthrough. This guy is going to be here whether we know him or not. He’ll be here for decades more like the rest of us.

Us slowly pulling him along moderates him, and doesn’t turn us rightwing. But cutting him out for politics will leave him the way he started. How is that better?
Obviously not saying conservatives are evil. Is it assuming all liberals are nice people? No, definitely not doing that either. This quote refutes that as well. For example, "cutting people out" for not having the right views is not "nice." There you go
 
I'm sure not all conservatives are evil or bad people, but they do tend to vote for and enable policies designed to harm the weakest and most vulnerable in society, so functionally it's a wash.

The problem is that the party they vote for (GOP) is full of ghouls intent on causing as much harm as possible for the most profit possible.

Does that mean the voters of the GOP are off the hook? Hardly, they should be confronted with the truth about their vote but given how many are willing to double down on disgusting policies, actions and events my willingness to tolerate them is decreasing rapidly.
 
The problem is that the party they vote for (GOP) is full of ghouls intent on causing as much harm as possible for the most profit possible.

Not all conservatives vote for the GOP. And others that do vote that way are too stupid to realize the result. If being stupid is evil, then there are a lot of evil democrats also.
But in General, you're about right.
 
I'm sure not all conservatives are evil or bad people, but they do tend to vote for and enable policies designed to harm the weakest and most vulnerable in society, so functionally it's a wash.

The problem is that the party they vote for (GOP) is full of ghouls intent on causing as much harm as possible for the most profit possible.

Does that mean the voters of the GOP are off the hook? Hardly, they should be confronted with the truth about their vote but given how many are willing to double down on disgusting policies, actions and events my willingness to tolerate them is decreasing rapidly.

An interesting question, @Cloud_Strife. You ALWAYS talk as if right-wing, conservative White movements - political, social, and religious - are your ONLY major enemy and fear, the only ones persecuting you or have it out for you, and thus ALL of your rhetoric targets them, and you want to censor, criminalize, and destroy, but EXCLUSIVELY them. Now, here's a statistic you may have overlooked - in the United States every year, for quite a few years, a greater number of violent hate crimes against transpeople have been perpetrated by African-Americans that by Caucasian, or European-descended Americans, by a significant and notable margin. How do you rectify this with your myopically-focused rhetoric?
 
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