This new war

[North King]

You know, I read a link somewhere that said Israel just gave (as of 24 hours ago I think) Syria an ultimatum to reign in Hezbollah... 48 hours left... but I haven't seen it on mainstream news yet.

That would be big news; if it's not anywhere in the mainstream, then it hasn't happened, or, at best (worst, in this case, really), it's a rumor of something which is yet to happen.

 

[Chieftess]

That would be big news; if it's not anywhere in the mainstream, then it hasn't happened, or, at best (worst, in this case, really), it's a rumor of something which is yet to happen.

This was the link.

 

[boarder]

What could happen is something along the lines of...
Israel targets the leaders of Hizbollah in Syria, bringing strong condemnation from Iran and a retalitory strike from Syria sending 100's of missiles back across to Israel, which further enrages Israel and they go all out attacking Syria with mass bombings,killing hundreds of people. They then also target the president of Syria, narrowly missing him, he gets so pissed he orders a full on chemical weapons strike against Israel, Israels arrow system cant shoot them all down and over 1000 missiles loaded with chemical weapons get through and rain down on towns over Israel. Israel thinks its very existence is under threat and launches a nuclear strike and wipes Damascus out completely. Iran totally enraged by this declares war and launches there one nuclear weapon that they bought from Pyongyang a couple of months ago, striking Telaviv and wiping it out. Israel retaliates with the rest of there nukes and wipes out most of Iran. North korea sees this as its chance and launches a full scale attack against the south, meanwhile All the other Arab countrys so incensed by Israel attack it at once and as Israel lost most of its weapons and has no more nukes left they are quickly overrun and slaughtered. America while fighting back the north koreans launch nukes of there own at the countrys that wiped out Israel. China, so incensed by losing all its oil supplies and worried about North Korea being overrun by Amerca warn America not to corss into the north,which they do so China attacks them in Niorth Korea and pushes them back all the way to the bottom of the peninsula, America then launch a nuclear strike against North Korea and catch 1 million chinese troops that where securing the north and kill them all getting China so angry it launches a full scale Nuclear strike against the states which repsonds with a full nuclear strike on china proper, killing over 500 million people and completely decimating the country,although America herself lose over 100 million and all its infrastructure are destroyed setting her back over 100 years.
Regional wars rage across the globe, with Russia filling the power vacuum by trying to ahcieve global domination and enslave the human race, which actually works against it and reunites what is left of mankind aginst her in a war that lasts for over 200 years, until unbeknowen to man, aliens have been watching all this and decide its time to take over the world,using humans for a food supply. Since there is not much left to defend ourselves with it only takes 3 years for peace to rain in the form of all humans are kept in incubators until there teenage years where they are shipped back to Ureap5 which is the aliens home planet and we are sold off as meat in a supermarket for 1.99 a kilo.
And all this cause 2 soldiers got kidnapped.

What I think will happen is...
Nothing it will stay as it is, slowly after Israel has taken out most Hizbollah targets they will stop it will be over and then the cylce of voilence in the ME can get back to normal.
And they won't find there soldiers.

 

[Godwynn]

You know, I read a link somewhere that said Israel just gave (as of 24 hours ago I think) Syria an ultimatum to reign in Hezbollah... 48 hours left... but I haven't seen it on mainstream news yet.


Worst case scenario would be:


- Israel attacks Syria (using rockets).
- Iran considers an attack on Syria (their ally) an act of war, and declares war on Israel (and allies). Iran also attempts to block the Persian Gulf, sparking naval battles (atleast rockets against navy - not sure how Iran's navy is).
- Oil prices skyrocket (my co-worker loses his bet - inside joke), and the world is plunged into an economic depression, which has historically been followed by major wars. (French Revolution, WWII, etc.). Generally, depression, and lack of jobs/money for food leads to civil strife and disorder.
- The world issues economic sanctions on Iran, but China is the only country (maybe Venezuala) that trades oil with Iran, increasing tensions elsewhere.
- China takes advantage of the confusion and commotion of the Middle East and invades Taiwan. North Korea also takes advantage of the commotion and attacks South Korea and Japan with Chinese backing.
And things steamroll from there.

But, that's if worst comes to worst.

If Europe gets involved in one way or another, I wonder what would happen there with large Muslim populations in some countries.

(I'm not sure why some people are hoping it escalates - I guess some people just like to see the action -- but, if it gets to the 'big league players' who have the nukes, then it could possibly get ugly if the thing hits the fan).

How about everyone here tries not to scare Godwynn completely crapless okay?

 

[Kozmos]

How about everyone here tries not to scare Godwynn completely crapless okay?

Meh what do you care you are safely tucked in in the US.

 

[PersianBoy]

Depends.

I have a bad feeling about this, I smell Iranian influence.

Look at this: http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/05/iran.deadline.reut/index.html

Iran is negotiating with EU over its nuclear programme. In last weeks, it postponed the talks and give no reason for that. Then, when the talks actually happened, it refused all Western offers as well as suspension of its nuclear research.

EU and US then decided that they will bring Iran before the UN Security Council. Few days later, Hezbollah, a terrorist organisation having close ties with Iran, starts a war with Israel.

I think Iran is trying to make a smoke screen or to demonstrate its ability to mount a pressure on the West - the oil prices are rising and the Western countries are now faced with different crisis.

Iran started to play hard.

EDIT:

hey ur belives about muslim r not true
abilities of israeli and irani army r not equal
if a war happen Iran easiely defeated like Iraq but after that problems start
think about people of ME. no one wanna war. Israel fight with nibours so much times and Iran fight with iraq for 8 years. People tired of war. no gov risk to war unless other side start war.
In nuclear program Iran only wanna more time to think (1 mount more). I think every country have our situation needs more time to think. Iran NOW must stop its program Iran NOW must accept but duties of west will be in future if Iran stop its Program and then west forget his duties then the only loser will be Iran.
Muslims r 2 kind Shia and Sonni. Iran help southern Lebonan because they r Shia and no will for Iranian empire is existed
Muslims have belives (at least I see between Shia muslims) but they r not gonna to kill others except others try to kill them.

 

[PersianBoy]

What could happen is something along the lines of...
Israel targets the leaders of Hizbollah in Syria, bringing strong condemnation from Iran and a retalitory strike from Syria sending 100's of missiles back across to Israel, which further enrages Israel and they go all out attacking Syria with mass bombings,killing hundreds of people. They then also target the president of Syria, narrowly missing him, he gets so pissed he orders a full on chemical weapons strike against Israel, Israels arrow system cant shoot them all down and over 1000 missiles loaded with chemical weapons get through and rain down on towns over Israel. Israel thinks its very existence is under threat and launches a nuclear strike and wipes Damascus out completely. Iran totally enraged by this declares war and launches there one nuclear weapon that they bought from Pyongyang a couple of months ago, striking Telaviv and wiping it out. Israel retaliates with the rest of there nukes and wipes out most of Iran. North korea sees this as its chance and launches a full scale attack against the south, meanwhile All the other Arab countrys so incensed by Israel attack it at once and as Israel lost most of its weapons and has no more nukes left they are quickly overrun and slaughtered. America while fighting back the north koreans launch nukes of there own at the countrys that wiped out Israel. China, so incensed by losing all its oil supplies and worried about North Korea being overrun by Amerca warn America not to corss into the north,which they do so China attacks them in Niorth Korea and pushes them back all the way to the bottom of the peninsula, America then launch a nuclear strike against North Korea and catch 1 million chinese troops that where securing the north and kill them all getting China so angry it launches a full scale Nuclear strike against the states which repsonds with a full nuclear strike on china proper, killing over 500 million people and completely decimating the country,although America herself lose over 100 million and all its infrastructure are destroyed setting her back over 100 years.
Regional wars rage across the globe, with Russia filling the power vacuum by trying to ahcieve global domination and enslave the human race, which actually works against it and reunites what is left of mankind aginst her in a war that lasts for over 200 years, until unbeknowen to man, aliens have been watching all this and decide its time to take over the world,using humans for a food supply. Since there is not much left to defend ourselves with it only takes 3 years for peace to rain in the form of all humans are kept in incubators until there teenage years where they are shipped back to Ureap5 which is the aliens home planet and we are sold off as meat in a supermarket for 1.99 a kilo.
And all this cause 2 soldiers got kidnapped.

What I think will happen is...
Nothing it will stay as it is, slowly after Israel has taken out most Hizbollah targets they will stop it will be over and then the cylce of voilence in the ME can get back to normal.
And they won't find there soldiers.

I don't understand why China or North Korea join war.
IF Iran or other muslim countries join war at least they r muslims but China r not rational.

 

[CaptainF]

(I'm not sure why some people are hoping it escalates - I guess some people just like to see the action -- but, if it gets to the 'big league players' who have the nukes, then it could possibly get ugly if the thing hits the fan).

Neither am I.

Some people are so destructive and misanthropic, desiring violence on an almost sexual level, that they cheer this conflict onward that it may escalate to biblical levels, all in the name of their foolish ideology.

 

[Godwynn]

Meh what do you care you are safely tucked in in the US.

You're right I don't. I hope Israel blows Syria and Iran to smithereens and The United States joins in, sending gas up to $6.00 per barrel, to the point where I have to walk to work and college - 10 miles away. I shouldn't care about China invading Taiwan or North Korea developing a nuclear weapon, I am in Illinois, not even near a coast. Hell bring on global warming, the ocean will stop at the Appalachian Mountains.

 

[CaptainF]

You're right I don't. I hope Israel blows Syria and Iran to smithereens and The United States joins in, sending gas up to $6.00 per barrel, to the point where I have to walk to work and college - 10 miles away. I shouldn't care about China invading Taiwan or North Korea developing a nuclear weapon, I am in Illinois, not even near a coast. Hell bring on global warming, the ocean will stop at the Appalachian Mountains.

I guess your all set then!

Just remember when the going gets tough:

 

[Godwynn]

I guess your all set then!

Just remember when the going gets tough:

Nah, I'll be outside cheering because I'm from the United States and shouldn't care what happens anywhere else.

 

[PersianBoy]

Nah, I'll be outside cheering because I'm from the United States and shouldn't care what happens anywhere else.

Godwynn how much old u r?

 

[CaptainF]

Yeah, screw the planet!

You wanna hug, well we got nuclear arms!

 

[Godwynn]

Godwynn how much old u r?

Its in my profile, why does it matter?

 

[Winner]

...
Muslims have belives (at least I see between Shia muslims) but they r not gonna to kill others except others try to kill them.

If that was true, the World would be a better place. Unfortunately, it is not.

 

[aneeshm]

If that was true, the World would be a better place. Unfortunately, it is not.

Winner - what he says is true , in a way . Shia Islam is a religion of defeat and the defeated ( with all the horrors that that implies ) .

The Arabs defeated Persia . This sense of defeat lingered , and when finally Ali was killed ar Karbala , this sense of national defeat and a wish to rebel on the part of the Persians took the form of the Sunni heresy we now know as Shia Islam . Culturally , it is a religion of defeat and mourning , as much for the destruction and defeat of old Persia as it is for the killing of Ali . That is why Iranian youth descend to the streets every year , whipping and hurting themselves so as to repent for their inability to defend Ali , and also symbolic of their inability to defend their country , Persia , against the Arabs .

That does not mean , however , that Shia Muslims are supposed to be any less militant than their Sunni brothers . Jihad , or righteous war , is supposed to be as important to them as it is to be to any other Muslim . They are no pacifists .

 

[homeyg]

Iran considers an attack on Syria (their ally) an act of war, and declares war on Israel (and allies). Iran also attempts to block the Persian Gulf, sparking naval battles (atleast rockets against navy - not sure how Iran's navy is).

Iran's 4-ship navy was destroyed a while back, according to my dad.

 

[boarder]

I don't understand why China or North Korea join war.
IF Iran or other muslim countries join war at least they r muslims but China r not rational.

North Korea joined because they saw it as a chance to re unite Korea while the worlds attention is on a nuclear war in the Middle east and China to stop american influence on the Korean peninsula...
I hope you didnt take me seriously though, was bored and high

 

[Kozmos]

You're right I don't. I hope Israel blows Syria and Iran to smithereens and The United States joins in, sending gas up to $6.00 per barrel, to the point where I have to walk to work and college - 10 miles away. I shouldn't care about China invading Taiwan or North Korea developing a nuclear weapon, I am in Illinois, not even near a coast. Hell bring on global warming, the ocean will stop at the Appalachian Mountains.

Gas is overrated.

 

[Margim]

Haven't read the rest of the thread to know if I'm just repeating someone else, but I think this thread title is misleading. This isn't a new war. It's just another series of battles in a conflict that have been going for over half a century.

It will go on for another half a century, with the same old threats, the same old diatribe, the same old senseless slaughter.

Can't understand why everyone on these forums is making such a big deal of it to be honest.