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It can easily calm down. It's done so before.
But hey, it's been 90 years since something like this got really nasty
But hey, it's been 90 years since something like this got really nasty
Kozmos
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I've had a feeling something like this would happen and I was right, bad vibes are everywhere...either way I hope for further escalation of the conflict. This needs to be resolved once and for all, whoever wins.
Bozo Erectus
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Chances are it'll get bigger. The top leadership in Israel are civilians who never served in war. Civilians tend to be more warlike than professional soldiers (see Bush and Cheney). The rocket attacks and kidnappings have been going on for years, this massive response never occured before. The civilians in charge feel the need to show to Israels enemies that just because all the war heroes are dead or on the way out, doesnt mean Israel is no longer ready or willing to inflict pain on them.
The Last Conformist
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How many people have died in the Mid-East conflict since '73, anyway? Low five digits?BasketCase said:
While certainly "lots" in a sense, it's not like it's one of the bigger conflicts of the last three decades.
Mirc
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I think it will get bigger than it is now, but not very very big. I don't think it will result in a world war or in the death of millions of people.
Kozmos
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Not a world war, but a regional war maybe.
Enkidu Warrior
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I've heard other people say it, but given all the talk of war I think it needs saying again. In today's Middle East there is no war. Israel won those a few decades ago. Now there is merely a nuclear armed military superpower with a US provided blank cheque to do whatever it wants, and a bunch of desperate people doing whatever they can to hurt it. There is little that Hamas or Hezbollah can do to escalate things any further. Israel on the other hand can take this as far as they like with little to fear.
I don't want to minimize the deaths and the trauma that Israeli's have suffered over the last few weeks, but lets be realistic about who holds the cards in this situation. For all of Hezbollah's initiative and ruthlessness, they're still clawing at the feet of the Israeli leviathan.
I also want to say that I hope that those wishing for even more bloodshed come to realise the folly of their murderous bile
I don't want to minimize the deaths and the trauma that Israeli's have suffered over the last few weeks, but lets be realistic about who holds the cards in this situation. For all of Hezbollah's initiative and ruthlessness, they're still clawing at the feet of the Israeli leviathan.
I also want to say that I hope that those wishing for even more bloodshed come to realise the folly of their murderous bile
Bozo Erectus
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All theyd have to do to escalate the conflict would be to fire off a few rockets from Syrian territory.Enkidu Warrior said:
JohnRM
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At the very minimum, Israel will invade Lebanon within a few days. There will be another long-term occupation of Southern Lebanon, to be used as a buffer zone.
It could get bad enough that the war spreads to Syria, Iran, Iraq, and the rest of the Middle East, which would inevitably draw the US into it.
It could get bad enough that the war spreads to Syria, Iran, Iraq, and the rest of the Middle East, which would inevitably draw the US into it.
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
If the US gets drawn into this, it won't be very pretty. Now, the war will get finished very quickly, so that might be a bonus to us entering the war, but if a long-term ocupation of any of the Levantine states happens, we're screwed.
Also, if we enter, you can be sure that Iran or somebody is going to play this as a secret plot by "Imperialist America" to build a Middle Eastern Empire.
In all reason I hope that Israel kicks everybody's ass over there, they sure have the capability to.
Also, if we enter, you can be sure that Iran or somebody is going to play this as a secret plot by "Imperialist America" to build a Middle Eastern Empire.
In all reason I hope that Israel kicks everybody's ass over there, they sure have the capability to.
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
Why not? If someone kicks someone else's ass, then the conflict is resolved. End of war, end of story.sysyphus said:
However, if there is no decisive victory, this becomes a festering killing spree, and the status quo remains the same which, five days ago, was that lots of people go jumping into crowds of civilians with bombs on their chests. If Israel wins, then real conterterrorism in Palestine and Lebanon can begin, which is good for us all. If Israel loses, these government funded or sanctioned terror organizations may continue to operate freely, with the knowledge that no matter what Israel says, they are a paper tiger and will not cause any real harm to them, thus they continue to jump into marketplaces and kill civilians.
Also, Israeli counterrorism is counterterrorism that the US doesn't have to fight, so it's good for us, too. Just two less countries to worry about.
aneeshm
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Narz said:
When that will prevent even more death , as I believe it will in this case , then yes .
Bozo Erectus said:
This made me shudder ...
aneeshm
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sysyphus said:
That's not true . But you're the one bigoted against me . Can you never cease the personal attacks ? Remember the time all the Arab nations simultaneously declared war on Israel when it was founded , and tried to drive the Jews into the sea ?
I'm saying this because I think that a Palestinian decisive defeat , with no hope of recovery , will be good for peace in the region , and will prevent further problems for another good many years .
Gr3yL3gion
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I hope that it'll escalated into a regional war, or more.
Why must they have all the fun?
Why must they have all the fun?
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Cheezy the Wiz said:
Never, ever the case, unless the defeated are so utterly wiped out that there isn't even a collective memory of their existance.
El_Machinae said:
You know, I read a link somewhere that said Israel just gave (as of 24 hours ago I think) Syria an ultimatum to reign in Hezbollah... 48 hours left... but I haven't seen it on mainstream news yet.
Worst case scenario would be:
- Israel attacks Syria (using rockets).
- Iran considers an attack on Syria (their ally) an act of war, and declares war on Israel (and allies). Iran also attempts to block the Persian Gulf, sparking naval battles (atleast rockets against navy - not sure how Iran's navy is).
- Oil prices skyrocket (my co-worker loses his bet - inside joke), and the world is plunged into an economic depression, which has historically been followed by major wars. (French Revolution, WWII, etc.). Generally, depression, and lack of jobs/money for food leads to civil strife and disorder.
- The world issues economic sanctions on Iran, but China is the only country (maybe Venezuala) that trades oil with Iran, increasing tensions elsewhere.
- China takes advantage of the confusion and commotion of the Middle East and invades Taiwan. North Korea also takes advantage of the commotion and attacks South Korea and Japan with Chinese backing.
And things steamroll from there.
But, that's if worst comes to worst.
If Europe gets involved in one way or another, I wonder what would happen there with large Muslim populations in some countries.
(I'm not sure why some people are hoping it escalates - I guess some people just like to see the action -- but, if it gets to the 'big league players' who have the nukes, then it could possibly get ugly if the thing hits the fan).
