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We all had mumps as kids. Then they invented a vaccine so people don't get it as kids. That way in those rare circumstances were people get it they are frequently adults who it can really hurt.

I dodged it and got measles and chickenpox.
 
No, they still give it to kids, but it isn't really eradicated anywhere because people are too mobile
I don't know specifically about mumps but usually the problem is not so much that people move around but that animal reservouirs exist. The moving around makes it spread much more readily but usually it either starts with animals or they are reservoirs of disease between outbreaks at the very least.

Small pox was able to be eradicated because it had no non-human hosts.
 
I dodged it and got measles and chickenpox.
My adventure with the mumps:

My mom hollered at me to get up and get ready for school, and I really didn't want to go. So as I was pondering how much I didn't want to go I thought maybe...just maybe...I could detect a little bit of a sore throat. So I forced a few coughs thinking maybe she would hear them, and maybe I could work the little sore throat enough to get a bit of rasp voice when I went to make my claim. When I was as ready as I figured I was gonna get I headed to my parents room to tell her I was sick. She was on the phone, and took one look at me and burst out laughing. Turns out my neck and cheeks were so swollen I looked like I had tried to eat my pillow.

I got to stay home. :)
 
My adventure with the mumps:

My mom hollered at me to get up and get ready for school, and I really didn't want to go. So as I was pondering how much I didn't want to go I thought maybe...just maybe...I could detect a little bit of a sore throat. So I forced a few coughs thinking maybe she would hear them, and maybe I could work the little sore throat enough to get a bit of rasp voice when I went to make my claim. When I was as ready as I figured I was gonna get I headed to my parents room to tell her I was sick. She was on the phone, and took one look at me and burst out laughing. Turns out my neck and cheeks were so swollen I looked like I had tried to eat my pillow.

I got to stay home. :)

Mumps was regarded as bad in the 80s, measles and chickenpox no big deal.

They had a measles outbreak in the islands recently and it was a big deal. Killed a heap of people and made it here.

Mumps us worse for females? I vaguely remember them being worried about my sister.
 
Mumps was regarded as bad in the 80s, measles and chickenpox no big deal.

They had a measles outbreak in the islands recently and it was a big deal. Killed a heap of people and made it here.

Mumps us worse for females? I vaguely remember them being worried about my sister.

Mumps, AFAIK, is only a big deal if you are past puberty.
 
Mumps, AFAIK, is only a big deal if you are past puberty.

Ah yeah she's 11 years older than me and I was 6 or so.
I remember being itchy, watching Our World on TV in my room (black and white) and having a week off school.

Have a scar on shoulder still.
 
Why not? Is is something about measles that prevents that?
As recall, very fine toothed combs are needed to remove the nits that cling to individual hairs.
Very fine-toothed combs (I have a specialised metal one just in case, and it's very fine) and when the owner of the hair has his scalp covered in big red pustulent boils combing the hair is simply out of the question.
Oh, and the child's immobilised too if he has boils in his feet. And barefoot.

The traditional solution to the lice was (and I think still is) to soak the patient's head with vinegar, which might lend substance to Bartholomew J. Simpson's assertion that you don't make friends with salad.
 
We all had mumps as kids. Then they invented a vaccine so people don't get it as kids. That way in those rare circumstances were people get it they are frequently adults who it can really hurt.
I was exposed as a kid (around age 9) when it went around the elementary school I attended. I was actually sleeping in the same room as one of the kids who got it (my dad's girlfriend's youngest daughter; I lived there for two years before going to live with my grandparents).

I didn't get it. I also didn't get chicken pox, when it went around the school the following year.

What I did do, was to get mumps during my last year of high school, right around the time when I was frantically trying to get through my Grade 12 biology and chemistry courses, so I could get into the B.Ed. program in the local college.

Well, I ended up sick for 3 weeks, missed the final exams, had to repeat both my science courses, and yes, it HURT.

Try living on grape juice for 3 weeks. There wasn't much I could tolerate, and I remember trying to get up one morning to go to school (after a couple of weeks). I felt dizzy, but was determined to go.

My grandmother took one look at me as I was trying not to fall over, and told me to go back to bed.

Mumps was regarded as bad in the 80s, measles and chickenpox no big deal.

They had a measles outbreak in the islands recently and it was a big deal. Killed a heap of people and made it here.

Mumps us worse for females? I vaguely remember them being worried about my sister.
Fertility issues. Having mumps after puberty can completely mess up the menstrual cycle, particularly if there were problems before (ie. if the teen/young woman was dealing with hypothyroidism).

It doesn't mean she definitely wouldn't be able to have children (although it can be that bad), but it could be difficult.
 
No, they still give it to kids, but it isn't really eradicated anywhere because people are too mobile. Things are only eradicated if they are eradicated everywhere, like smallpox.

Where I live there is a "compulsory" vaccination calendar given by public health care system
I would say that they stop giving mumps vaccine in early 2000's, and that's why there is right now an outbreak in university campus

It's controversial because an idiot anti-vaxxer and former doctor claimed it could give children autism.

Calling the anti-vaxxers idiots will always have my approval
 
Where I live there is a "compulsory" vaccination calendar given by public health care system
I would say that they stop giving mumps vaccine in early 2000's, and that's why there is right now an outbreak in university campus

I don't know why they would stop. There are still mumps sources all over the world, because that vaccine is not distributed in a lot of poorer countries.
 
I don't know why they would stop. There are still mumps sources all over the world, because that vaccine is not distributed in a lot of poorer countries.

I have double checked, as per a Health Care Sytem's spokesperson, the MMR vaccine dispensed those years had "low efficiency"
 
You put that in quotes. That's good, because it sounds like bureaucrat meaningless noise.

Does that mean the vaccine wasn't reliable? Seems unlikely. You wouldn't be using terms like eradicated if there was routine vaccination failure and kids getting the disease anyway.

Does that mean that the money saved by not having kids get those diseases wasn't enough compared to the cost of the vaccination program? That seems possible, because those diseases in a modern country with normal health care availability are just not that big an expense normally. Kids get them in elementary school usually, so no work is lost. They just miss a few days of school. If you have ready supplies of basic over the counter medications and good sanitary water supplies treatment is basic and highly effective for patients infected prior to puberty, so there just isn't that much to gain.

But there's probably still a bunch of things that "low efficiency" might mean. Bureaucracy sucks.
 
But there's probably still a bunch of things that "low efficiency" might mean. Bureaucracy sucks.

That civil service could have used as argument: "our bosses, those politicians, ordered us to be against, but we are forbidden to say that, and we have to come up with some meaningless low political profile and therefore "technical" argument"
 
You put that in quotes. That's good, because it sounds like bureaucrat meaningless noise.

Does that mean the vaccine wasn't reliable? Seems unlikely. You wouldn't be using terms like eradicated if there was routine vaccination failure and kids getting the disease anyway.

Does that mean that the money saved by not having kids get those diseases wasn't enough compared to the cost of the vaccination program? That seems possible, because those diseases in a modern country with normal health care availability are just not that big an expense normally. Kids get them in elementary school usually, so no work is lost. They just miss a few days of school. If you have ready supplies of basic over the counter medications and good sanitary water supplies treatment is basic and highly effective for patients infected prior to puberty, so there just isn't that much to gain.

But there's probably still a bunch of things that "low efficiency" might mean. Bureaucracy sucks.

I have read a paper explaining why was considered low efficiency, but I do not have training in this subjects and I am pretty sure that haven't understood properly, but bassically says that vaccine had a low immunogenic parotidic component, whatever that means.
 
Do you mean a feline version of the coronavirus, or just a coronavirus?
 
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