Trial of Amanda Knox

My prediction: she will appeal, the hype will die down, cooler heads will prevail and she will probably get released.

her dna was on the murder weapon. she tried to blame it on a guy with an alibi, hoping "the black guy did it" will suffice. her testimonies are incredibly contradictory.

sorry, but under roman law you usually are found guilty in those circumstances, like it or not.
 
Honestly, if I were forced to give a verdict just from what I've read in the news articles, I'd say the chickypoo is guilty.
 
her dna was on the murder weapon.

She lived there. duh.

she tried to blame it on a guy with an alibi, hoping "the black guy did it" will suffice.

Well, another black guy had earlier been convincted of the crime as well and got 30 years for it. Its unclear how much pressure they put on her to make that accusation.

her testimonies are incredibly contradictory.

And neither was the forensic evidence that great for the prosecution, with a good deal of it contaminated by investigators more interested in getting photographed with her panties in hand, for example.

sorry, but under roman law you usually are found guilty in those circumstances, like it or not.

Like I said, the appeal has already been filed. Lets let the hype die down and see what happens.
 
In my earlier post I said that from what I've seen I didn't think guilt was established beyond reasonable doubt. Now I do.
 
Just think of the uproar on this side of the pond if she would have been tried with a visible anti-Italian tattoo.
 
Well, another black guy had earlier been convincted of the crime as well and got 30 years for it.

But the involvement of the third man, Rudy Guedé, emerged later. Instead Knox diverted the police's attention to Patrick Lumumba right at the start of the investigation.

Its unclear how much pressure they put on her to make that accusation.

It's unclear who, then, was so interested in Lumumba's name being made, or why.
 
I don't know whether she is guilty or not. Trick her into thinking she is HIV-positive to gain a list of all her partners? Leak this to the media to get all the emotive, sensationalist locals in a frenzy? What a joke. As for her pointing fingers at the innocent man, it is entirely possible that she was in a panic about the whole thing and was just acting desperately.

It sounds like the justice system in Italy operates like a group of gossiping 14 year old girls.

EDIT: Of course, before Italians defend their institutional record too vigourously, just remember that Berlusconi is your President.
 
I think we Germanic peoples need to pull another Odoacer.
 
From the article Cutlass posted:

Prosecutors initially said the crime was inspired by the occult and Halloween fantasies.

...

In the end, the prosecution said they could not fathom the reason for the murder but insisted that Knox and Sollecito had carried it out. Those arguments were comprehensively rejected by the jury.

From where do Italian authorities learn criminal investigation techniques? Soap operas?
 
From the article Cutlass posted:



From where do Italian authorities learn criminal investigation techniques? Soap operas?

Or from American court cases. Remember the West Memphis Three?

Prosecutors alleged the trio killed the children in Robin Hood Hills on the morning of May 6, 1993, as part of a satanic ritual. According to police, the boys' bodies were mutilated and left in a ditch. Each had been hogtied with his own shoelaces.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...449.html#s333742&title=Craighead_County_Court
 
Just think of the uproar on this side of the pond if she would have been tried with a visible anti-Italian tattoo.

LOL, really?


She might be booed out of New Jersey, and have trouble ordering a real pizza, but I don't think more than that...


I'm mostly Italian btw.



If you read the end of Cutlass's article, she was acquitted of murder, but some slander charges (false accusation) against here stuck (3 years jail, 22,000 euros restitution fines).
 
She'd just better get her butt out of Italy and never return before they change their minds again :p
 
LOL wow. I just wiki-ed this. Had a really good laugh.
Prosecution and defence arguments
The prosecution's first theory for the motive in the murder involved a Satanic ritual orgy,[77][78] similar to the charges of belonging to a Satanic sect that Mignini had unsuccessfully leveled at 20 others in the Monster of Florence case.[79][80] The prosecution also posited it may have been a "cult sacrifice".[81] Mignini denied ever saying that Kercher was the victim of a "sacrificial rite".[82] Later, the prosecution hypothesised that Kercher's murder involved a sex game gone wrong,[83] or that the victim had refused to participate in an orgy,[84] or that Knox was motivated by "jealousy".[81] The prosecution also suggested that Guede went to the cottage to meet Knox, that Knox stole money from Kercher to pay Guede for drugs, and that Kercher walked in at the wrong time and was sexually assaulted and murdered.[85] At trial, the prosecution stated that Knox was easily given to disliking people with whom she disagreed and the time had come to take revenge on Kercher.[86] On another occasion the prosecution theorised that she fell victim to "a rage caused by smoking marijuana".[81]

I'm just going to hope to God that there was more to this case then the courts believing the just the most absurd ideas because someone had The Sex and The Marijuana.
 
She'd just better get her butt out of Italy and never return before they change their minds again :p

Yeah really. To be honest, being a juror on this must have been pretty mind boggling:

Prosecutors maintained that Knox, Sollecito, and Guede had forced Kercher into a group sex game which spiraled into extreme violence. But serious doubts emerged over the evidence used to convict her, with accusations that police and forensics experts bungled the initial crime scene investigation.

None of Knox’s DNA was found in the bedroom in which Miss Kercher was stabbed to death.

The prosecution claimed that Knox’s DNA was on the handle of the presumed murder weapon, a kitchen knife, and Kercher’s genetic material on the blade, linking the American to the killing.

They also said that Sollecito’s DNA was found on a bra clasp, which had been cut or torn off the bra, proving that he took part in the attack.

But a review of the evidence by two independent experts from La Sapienza University in Rome found that the DNA traces were too low to be reliable and so small that they could not be retested.

There were also doubts over the murder weapon.

Police and prosecutors said Kercher was killed with a kitchen knife found in a drawer in Sollecito’s apartment.

But the blade of the knife did not match two out of three of the wounds to her neck. Nor did it match a bloody, knife-shaped smear on Kercher’s bedclothes.

The prosecution struggled to come up with witnesses who could place Knox and Sollecito at the scene of the crime.

But they insisted that the murder was carried out by more than one person because of the lack of injuries to Kercher’s hands – a fact which suggested that her arms had been pinned back by at least one person while another plunged the knife into her neck.

There seemed to be no convincing motive for the murder. Prosecutors initially said the crime was inspired by the occult and Halloween fantasies.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Euro...erturns-controversial-murder-verdict/(page)/2
 
Only one of the original charges against Knox was upheld - the slander of Patrick Lumumba, a Congolese bar owner in Perugia who she falsely accused of being the murderer.

The judge set the sentence at three years, but with the four years Knox has already served in jail, the sentence was effectively void.

She was ordered to pay him 22,000 euros in compensation plus legal costs. He spent two weeks in jail but was eventually cleared with a solid alibi.
So what were the sentences and fines for the prosecutor and the witnesses who testified against her?
 
Whats even more amazing is the amount of Italian media that will occur if the person involved is a pretty American Girl.

I mean with all that media hype can you really say with a straight face that she got a fair trial?

My prediction: she will appeal, the hype will die down, cooler heads will prevail and she will probably get released.

Ding. We have a winner!! :goodjob:
 
You voluntarily enter a country, you submit to that country's justice system.

Disagree. So, if you enter China to visit some family, you open yourself to being executed with little evidence because of something?

I do agree (To a point, though it would take a lot for me to disagree with it) that you submit to the LAW of a country when you enter it, but if you weren't actually proven to have done the crime, different story.

Of course, I don't actually know whether this case applies or not.
 
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