Trump Steps in it Again

Maxine Waters ripped into Trump as “the most despicable human being that could possibly ever walk the earth.”

Let us hope she is right, but humanity tends to prove that every new limit is eventually exceeded. I figure that lurking out there somewhere, there's worse.
 
Maxine Waters ripped into Trump as “the most despicable human being that could possibly ever walk the earth.”

Probably true. But I feel sometimes you need a bad guy as a leader. Someone who can make the tough decisions that other can't make because they are too nice. I'm looking at you Obama. And cutting down on immigration is one of those decisions I support. I just say do it in an even handed way to not appear racist. Don't allow Europeans in as well. Not that many are wanting to come here, about the only place we get immigrants from are from England. Seriously Brits, how bad is your country they want to come to a nation without Universal Health Care?
 
The faux outrage about this is particularly amusing because, just a few days ago, the selfsame people were attacking the decision to end TPS for Salvadorians, saying that it was cruel and inhumane to send people back to such a poor, violent and awful country as El Salvador.

Literally the only people who benefited from temporary protected status are illegal aliens. Everyone of which should be deported.
 
Haitai got Screwed by the French whom saddled it with the debt of Napelons campagin to retake it by force and ironicly America backed the French claim it was pretty much Fed from the start because of this.

I'm usually very much into blaming the varius french empires. But even I cannot blame them for a country being a *hole two centuries after they've gone! No, the causes for Haiti's misery must be searched in more recent decades.
 
Maxine Waters ripped into Trump as “the most despicable human being that could possibly ever walk the earth.”

Let us hope she is right, but humanity tends to prove that every new limit is eventually exceeded. I figure that lurking out there somewhere, there's worse.

And, of course, if nothing else, Trump himself will do something even more despicable next week.
 
The faux outrage about this is particularly amusing because, just a few days ago, the selfsame people were attacking the decision to end TPS for Salvadorians, saying that it was cruel and inhumane to send people back to such a poor, violent and awful country as El Salvador.

There's a difference between acknowledging the political, economic, and social difficulties a country is facing, and claiming that, because of those difficulties, its people are garbage people deserving of our contempt.

Dems: "El Salvador is not a safe place to live. Therefore its understandable that people are choosing to flee; we should do what we can to help those in need."

Trump: "Haiti is a ****hole. None of its citizens should be allowed to immigrate to our country"

Do you see the difference?
 
Dems: "El Salvador is not a safe place to live. Therefore its understandable that people are choosing to flee; we should do what we can to help those in need."

Trump: "Haiti is a ****hole. None of its citizens should be allowed to immigrate to our country"

Do you see the difference?

Yes, and I even mentioned it in my other post. It’s a question of framing. One side frames it in terms of ‘we should let in people from awful places to help them’, whereas the other frames it in terms of ‘how does letting in people from these awful places benefit our country?’
 
Yes, and I even mentioned it in my other post. It’s a question of framing. One side frames it in terms of ‘we should let in people from awful places to help them’, whereas the other frames it in terms of ‘how does letting in people from these awful places benefit our country?’
Is that a question of framing or is that a difference of values?
 
And it's not like the modern USA was actually founded on immigration. Oh dear me no.

Give me your tired, your poor,: Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,: The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,: I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
 
It's an interesting coincidence that the only American I know of who is ostentatious enough to actually have a golden door is D'ump.
 
Is that a question of framing or is that a difference of values?

It’s both, I suppose. Values determine how one looks at an issue, while framing determines how one wants to see it discussed politically.
 
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