Maybe in the future the mafia will be trafficking Twitch e-girls ^_^
Maybe in the future the mafia will be trafficking Twitch e-girls ^_^
Wasn't there already a case like that with some YouTuber years ago? Not necessarily trafficking, but something like she was being forced to do YouTube videos to make money for someone else?
Would make business sense for the underworld with Twitch stars that make hundreds of thousands of dollars. No way the mafia will make that by turning a girl into a prostitute.
Though there would be great difficulties in maintaining the show if the girl was just a prisoner, or even drugged. So perhaps we won't see any actual Twich mega-star of that variety.
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amadeus
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I haven’t ever used Twitch... it’s a video streaming service for streaming video games?
I was going to chime in on that exploitation question that was raised earlier, in gendered terms. The men that spend money seeking attention, which some do, are they victims? It seems at least one opinion here was voiced that the women streamers were basically conning these men out of their money. At the same rate, these men are also trying to buy affection. So I don’t know where that puts anyone in this whole thing; I feel kind of bad for the men that think that’s the way to go about it because I’m guessing they lack in social skills in dealing with women.
How the women feel about it, I don’t know either. I suppose it could be empowering that they’ve made money in a field that is stereotypically dominated by men. On the flipside, if it’s a beauty contest, maybe some of them don’t feel that it’s as empowering as others might. But then this kind of approaches broader social questions about women and beauty in society; nobody bats an eye at attractive women (or men) working in professional modeling.
I guess the only thing I know is what I would personally do. Would I pay an attractive woman that plays video games? I suppose if I thought the content was worth paying for, but I’ve never come across it. If I had the extra cash to do so, I’d give my money to someone like Techmoan or Mark Felton on YouTube. I’m subscribed to both of them and their videos are interesting and informative.
I was going to chime in on that exploitation question that was raised earlier, in gendered terms. The men that spend money seeking attention, which some do, are they victims? It seems at least one opinion here was voiced that the women streamers were basically conning these men out of their money. At the same rate, these men are also trying to buy affection. So I don’t know where that puts anyone in this whole thing; I feel kind of bad for the men that think that’s the way to go about it because I’m guessing they lack in social skills in dealing with women.
How the women feel about it, I don’t know either. I suppose it could be empowering that they’ve made money in a field that is stereotypically dominated by men. On the flipside, if it’s a beauty contest, maybe some of them don’t feel that it’s as empowering as others might. But then this kind of approaches broader social questions about women and beauty in society; nobody bats an eye at attractive women (or men) working in professional modeling.
I guess the only thing I know is what I would personally do. Would I pay an attractive woman that plays video games? I suppose if I thought the content was worth paying for, but I’ve never come across it. If I had the extra cash to do so, I’d give my money to someone like Techmoan or Mark Felton on YouTube. I’m subscribed to both of them and their videos are interesting and informative.
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For the most part. It has other stuff now, like ASMR, podcasts, talk shows, and music creation.
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Gentrification builds nice neighborhoods that seem to have a lot of demand to join the community. You get the company you seek, and Tik Tok is seeking money.
Money is a wonderful social modifier, but it's probably not a healthy one. So I guess it depends on what you care about in your interaction with the interface. If it's shallow, then being shallow is probably not inappropriate. I seriously don't give a horsehocky about actors and actresses as people even if I love the movies I watch them in sometimes, so fair point. Takes quite a bit to break that particular wall. People that follow them on their social media usually seem to be a specific sort of quality of person.
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If they're adjusting for purely aesthetic, it's a bad thing. Good looks does not translate to good talent. When I first signed up for TikTok, my For You Page had a significant number of startlingly beautiful people doing things half-heartedly. I'd rather an average-looking dancer who is amazing at what they do than a beautiful dancer who is only beautiful.
China also does not have a good track record of setting these conditions.
warpus
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People are still using Tik Tok? No migration from that service? Isn't it owned by the Chinese government or some such thing?
But good looks is what a lot of people want to see. I mean, it's no secret that there have been a bunch of studies that prove people in general are more sympathetic to and more supportive of physically attractive people. One of those studies even showed that attractive people are less likely to be convicted of crimes and when they are convicted they tend to get lighter sentences.
So it only makes sense that talented or not, attractive people will draw more views than "ugly" people which makes attractive people more profitable to a platform like Tik Tok.
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It is, yes. Banned in India for such, and there's rumblings in US government along similar lines though I'm not sure they'll outright ban it. CCP is using it to gather information on people though, and in usual CCP fashion you can guess at how much they care about what information you consent to sharing vs what the app will actually do to obtain it.
warpus
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I'm sure American based services similarly have backdoors for the American government to grab such data as well.. but I'd rather have that than the Chinese. Better of two evils, etc.
Maybe one day the Europeans can get their *&%!% in order and give us some moral alternatives..
Maybe one day the Europeans can get their *&%!% in order and give us some moral alternatives..
Of course, it is home of morality here ^_^
It may not get banned for the general population, but the military has ordered soldiers and civilian contractors who work for them to delete the app off their phones and have blocked access to the app while using any on-base wi-fi.
warpus
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The EU has actual regulations in place that protect the citizens, on a much larger scale than what's happening in the U.S. or China. Of course some of those go too far, but that's another story.
So yes, if there was a European google, I would use that instead.
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Doubtful, EU is already more draconian than US (though less than China) when it comes to online stuff, and I don't even trust the US one bit when it comes to this stuff. I just don't expect it'll ban its own backdoors for obvious reasons, despite the illegality.
warpus
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What do you find more draconian about the EU? Is it documented that any EU governments have pressured a company to add in backdoors to their software?
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Link/meme tax stuff they pushed immediately comes to mind. Article 11 in particular is dangerous as it allows to price out people who cover/reference news independently. EU also has stricter laws against what you can say online. The way representation is handled for these kinds of decisions does not give much optimism. Though perhaps because it lacks a centralized single point for law enforcement it might be less inclined to create backdoors specifically for the EU. Though there's nothing stopping individual countries from doing that.
warpus
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Ah yes there is all sorts of stupidity. But there also tend to be a lot more regulations that protect the consumer and the workers. (compared to the U.S.). Does Nokia spy on their users and pass on the data to the Finnish or EU governments? I doubt it.
Afaik, Belle Delphine managed to remove tens of thousands of dollars from the wallets of her followers, by claiming that if she reached a certain amount of money donated she'd upload a video at some porn site. Which she did, just wasn't porn, like those simps expected.
A pretty good scam - and apparently it didn't end her business, given a year later she is back, now selling ridiculously overpriced condoms. Someone joked that her supporters aren't likely to use them anyway
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