Two bomb blasts during the Boston Marathon

[Murky]

It doesn't matter much Disgustipated. The lack of instructions isn't what's keeping people from making bombs.

Generally we don't make bombs because we're not interested in murder and terror.

I often wonder about this. People get shafted on daily basis either by their co-workers, their boss, or some organization they view as working against them. Thoughts of murder and terror surely do happen frequently. Those thoughts usually just don't translate into action. Maybe because people fear the consequences and/or think it would trouble them later in life.

 

[AlpsStranger]

I honestly and sincerely don't like the idea of hurting other people. I'd like to think that's not rare.

Of course history and the world around me

 

[MobBoss]

This is lunacy MobBoss. You've made the definition of WMD so broad and meaningless to the point that guns are WMDs and i suspect its only so you can appear 'right' in a 10 year old argument over Iraq.

Ahem, 'I' did no such thing...the definition is what it is. Do I think it overly broad? Absolutely, but is that necessarily a bad thing? I'm not so sure that dismissing the definition of this as WMD is the right thing to do.

What if the device had simply been bigger, in the back of a van? It's still not nuclear, biological or chemical per se; but you increase the number of potential casualties significantly.

How do you determine the criteria? By potential or by actual damage?

 

[FriendlyFire]

Ahem, 'I' did no such thing...the definition is what it is. Do I think it overly broad? Absolutely, but is that necessarily a bad thing? I'm not so sure that dismissing the definition of this as WMD is the right thing to do.

What if the device had simply been bigger, in the back of a van? It's still not nuclear, biological or chemical per se; but you increase the number of potential casualties significantly.

How do you determine the criteria? By potential or by actual damage?

A single vile of real military grade anthrax that can kill a hundred thousand ?




Or are we still arguing that WMDs are the chemcials in every US household ?

"It is less toxic than most things that Americans have under their kitchen sink at this point" Former US weapons inspector David Kay

 

[MobBoss]

Or are we still arguing that WMDs are the chemcials in every US household ?

Was the Oklahoma city bomb a WMD or not?

 

[FriendlyFire]

Was the Oklahoma city bomb a WMD or not?

Is 1.8 Ton WW2 conventional bomb a WMD or not ?
Is 10 ton WW2 conventional bomb a WMD or not ?

 

[Antilogic]

Lost track of this thread, are we before or after the point where somebody posted about agencies defining terms differently?

 

[MobBoss]

Is 1.8 Ton WW2 conventional bomb a WMD or not ?
Is 10 ton WW2 conventional bomb a WMD or not ?

I like how you choose not to answer my question. Nice pics tho.

 

[Dachs]

Lost track of this thread, are we before or after the point where somebody posted about agencies defining terms differently?

Waaaaaaaaaay after.

 

[FriendlyFire]

Quick question: Assuming the guy survives, would it be too early for him to apply for a position at the University of Illinois or Columbia University?

Future President of the United States.

 

[FriendlyFire]

I like how you choose not to answer my question. Nice pics tho.

Guess one mans conventional bomb is another mans weapon of mass destruction.

 

[JollyRoger]

At least we didn't drop pressure cookers on the Japs

 

[FriendlyFire]

One of the men believed responsible for the catastrophic Boston Marathon bombings last week bought the “most powerful” fireworks he could find two months before carrying out the attack.

It comes as police reportedly expect the victim of Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev's car-jacking last Friday to be a star witness in their case against the younger brother, preventing the case being thrown out because of inadmissible admissions made while Dzhokhar lies in hospital.

In an interview with The New York Times, a senior employee of a chain of fireworks shops said Tamerlan visited one of his shops in New Hampshire on February 6.

“He came in and he asked the question that 90 per cent of males ask when they walk into a fireworks store: 'What's the most powerful thing you've got?' ” vice-president William Weimer said.

FBI agents found a “large pyrotechnic” in Dzhokhar's dormitory at the University of Massachusetts, according to an affidavit.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/we-just...he-marathon-20130424-2idhw.html#ixzz2RL5zoGlL

Fireworks (powder) were used in the IED .......
And now to watch Mobboss twist himself into a pretzel.

 

[AlpsStranger]

Well, the 4th of July is ruined.

Sometimes life is just so perfectly symbolic. It's a little hard to take as an atheist if I'm honest.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Blockbusters should be considered WMDs.

 

[innonimatu]

This attack killed 3 people and injured 179. I've read about SCUD ballistic missile attacks that did less than that and there is no doubt a ballistic missile is a WMD.

This attack could have easily killed a lot more people too. I'm actually quite surprised it didn't.

They killed 11 children and who knows how many grown-ups and injured many more. I've read about SCUD missile attacks killing fewer people. This attack may well have killed a lot more people too.

The US is using weapons of mass destruction against Afghan civilians.

See how easily your little weasel word game can be played against you?

No, the beginning and end of the story is that he dropped this bomb on a place of his choosing, knowing full well he would kill children and women and permanently injure many others. He is particularly evil even among terrorists, who usually choose a physical target and consider civilian deaths an acceptable collateral damage, like McVeigh did. He only targeted people, and particularly innocent and vulnerable people at that.

There is no nuance for those who lost a loved one, or their legs. Can you appreciate that?

Tsk, Luiz, don't you realize that with that definition of "terrorist" you're also including the people dropping all those bombs on civilians in Afghanistan and elsewhere? And justifying those enraged and vengeful over it? I dare say you may be providing comfort to terrorists! That was naughty of you. Report for re-education.

 

[Defiant47]

They killed 11 children and who knows how many grown-ups and injured many more. I've read about SCUD missile attacks killing fewer people. This attack may well have killed a lot more people too.

The US is using weapons of mass destruction against Afghan civilians.

See how easily your little weasel word game can be played against you?



Tsk, Luiz, don't you realize that with that definition of "terrorist" you're also including the people dropping all those bombs on civilians in Afghanistan and elsewhere? And justifying those enraged and vengeful over it? I dare say you may be providing comfort to terrorists! That was naughty of you. Report for re-education.

The irony of these revelations will be glossed over by those who need them the most.

 

[MobBoss]

At least we didn't drop pressure cookers on the Japs

Well, we did once try bats with little firebombs strapped to them. So in contrast to that, pressure cookers wouldnt seem all that odd.

 

[innonimatu]

Most of those who pretend to be enraged over terrorists attacks and then call for wars for vengeance fully realize what they're doing: using terrorism as an excuse for further terrorism. But many of their listeners don't.

And they don't want to be told about it.

 

[MobBoss]

They killed 11 children and who knows how many grown-ups and injured many more. I've read about SCUD missile attacks killing fewer people. This attack may well have killed a lot more people too.

The US is using weapons of mass destruction against Afghan civilians.

See how easily your little weasel word game can be played against you?

Again, this isnt my weasel word game, it's actually the administrations. I'm just trying to discuss it, both pro and con.

And I dont deny that under such a broad definition, your point is quite valid.

So...now what?

Most of those who pretend to be enraged over terrorists attacks and then call for wars for vengeance fully realize what they're doing: using terrorism as an excuse for further terrorism. But many of their listeners don't.

And they don't want to be told about it.

Now you're guilty of using an overly broad definition of terrorism.