[RD] War in Ukraine: Other topics

And about throwing your NATO allies in Europe. Then you have such situation
"As a share of revenue, we estimate that interest costs will grow from comprising 18 percent of all revenues today to 27 percent of revenues in 2035. This level of interest payments as a percent of revenue – and as a percent of output – would put the United States in uncharted fiscal territory"
any US president will do "America first"
 
Given the news about Chernobyl and Energodar, neither Zelensky nor the EU needs peace.

Munich Security Conference officials say no Russians are attending the conference
The chairman of the Munich Security Conference, Christoph Heusgen, has urged caution over Donald Trump's claim that talks between ‘high-level’ representatives of the US and Russia are planned in Munich.
‘We have not accredited a single representative of the Russian government. And you can't get here without accreditation,’ Heusgen told Deutschlandfunk ahead of the conference.
In addition, according to Heusgen, the German federal government did not issue appropriate visas to representatives of the Russian authorities.
At the same time, many European politicians criticised Trump for trying to start direct truce talks with Russia.
‘A peace that is essentially a surrender is bad news for everyone,’ French President Emmanuel Macron told the Financial Times.

source: @BILD_Russian.
 
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The Russian army has been stopped by Ukraine alone, they have been trying to take the same small town for over a year now, in fact, it is the lack of credible conventional threat that makes it hard to mobilize European nations, EU/NATO members like Spain, Italy, Belgium also, do no longer the see in the Russian army a threat like they did in Soviet times.

But that does not help Ukraine, or others that actually border Russia.
 
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How do you plan to stop this war, then?
Only direct involve of US army can beat russia on th ground. Trum said - it wan't happen

get ready to hear one thing and the opposite every 24h for the next 4 years.

Vance Wields Threat of Sanctions, Military Action to Push Putin Into Ukraine Deal


PARIS—Vice President JD Vance said Thursday that the U.S. would hit Moscow with sanctions and potentially military action if Russian President Vladimir Putin won’t agree to a peace deal with Ukraine that guarantees Kyiv’s long-term independence.

Vance said the option of sending U.S. troops to Ukraine if Moscow failed to negotiate in good faith remained “on the table,” striking a far tougher tone than did Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who on Wednesday suggested the U.S. wouldn’t commit forces.

“There are economic tools of leverage, there are of course military tools of leverage” the U.S. could use against Putin, Vance said.
 
The Russian army has been stopped by Ukraine alone, they have been trying to take the same small town for over a year now, in fact, it is the lack of credible conventional threat that makes it hard to mobilize European nations, EU/NATO members like Spain, Italy, Belgium also, do no longer the see in the Russian army a threat like they did in Soviet times.

But that does not help Ukraine, or others that actually border Russia.
Alone
And that's not complet list here

Spoiler :

Sure! Here’s the translation:

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Military assistance to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War includes the following categories of equipment and armaments (data is current as of February 2025):

*📚 Tanks*
⦁ *Total*: 200+ units
Including:
⦁ 49 M1A1 Abrams (Australia)
⦁ 30 M-84 (Croatia)
⦁ 194+ T-72 of various modifications (Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Denmark)
⦁ 8 Leopard 2A4 (Canada)
⦁ 40 Leopard 1A5 (Denmark)

*📚 Towed Artillery*
⦁ *Total*: 170+ units
Including:
⦁ 36×122 mm D-30 (Estonia)
⦁ 24×155 mm FH-70 (Estonia)
⦁ 6×155 mm M777 (Australia)
⦁ 15×130 mm M-46 (Croatia)

*📚 Self-Propelled Artillery (SPG)*
⦁ *Total*: 80+ units
Including:
⦁ 13×152 mm ShKH vz. 77 DANA (Czech Republic)
⦁ 19×155 mm Caesar 8x8 (Denmark)
⦁ 18×155 mm 2S22 Bohdana (Denmark)

*📚 Armored Personnel Carriers (APC) and Analogues*
⦁ *Total*: 350+ units
Including:
⦁ 80 Iveco LMV (Belgium)
⦁ 100 BTR-60PB (Bulgaria)
⦁ 54 M113G3DK/G4DK (Denmark)
⦁ 39 ACSV (Canada)

*📚 MRAP (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected)*
⦁ *Total*: 200+ units
Including:
⦁ 22 International M1224 MaxxPro (Albania)
⦁ 120 Bushmaster (Australia)
⦁ 208 Roshel Senator (Canada)

*📚 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (IFV)*
⦁ *Total*: 130+ units
Including:
⦁ 30 BVP M-80 (Croatia)
⦁ 80 BMP-2 (Denmark)

*📚 Aircraft*
⦁ *Total*: 40+ units
Including:
⦁ 30 F-16 (Belgium)
⦁ 5 Super Étendard (Argentina)
⦁ 17 Mi-24/Mi-35 (Czech Republic)

*📚 Missiles and ATGMs*
⦁ *ATGMs*: 10,000+ units
Including:
⦁ 2,700×M72 LAW (Denmark)
⦁ 7,000×RPG-7 (Denmark)
⦁ 10,000×RPG-75 (Czech Republic)

*📚 Air Defense Systems*
⦁ *Total*: 20+ systems
Including:
⦁ NASAMS (Canada, Belgium)
⦁ Mistral (Belgium, Estonia)
⦁ 2×2K12 Kub (Czech Republic)

*📚 Ammunition*
⦁ *Artillery*: 2.3 million+
⦁ 2 million×155 mm (Czech Republic)
⦁ 300,000×122 mm (Czech Republic)
⦁ 40,000×155 mm for M777 (Canada)

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*🔖 Notes:*

1. In the categories "tanks," "IFVs," and "SPGs," both delivered and planned deliveries are included.

2. Some countries (e.g., Bulgaria, Croatia) list equipment without exact quantities—minimum estimates have been used in such cases.

3. Data on missiles includes ATGMs, anti-aircraft, and tactical missiles.

4. Statistics do not account for equipment transferred through third countries (e.g., T-72 tanks purchased by the Czech Republic from Bulgaria).

Sources: 1 2

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Let me know if you need anything else!
 
Alone yes. Not one NATO soldier has as much as broken a nail in this conflict so far.

Our ancestors called this phase "La drole de guerre".
 
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get ready to hear one thing and the opposite every 24h for the next 4 years.

Vance Wields Threat of Sanctions, Military Action to Push Putin Into Ukraine Deal


PARIS—Vice President JD Vance said Thursday that the U.S. would hit Moscow with sanctions and potentially military action if Russian President Vladimir Putin won’t agree to a peace deal with Ukraine that guarantees Kyiv’s long-term independence.

Vance said the option of sending U.S. troops to Ukraine if Moscow failed to negotiate in good faith remained “on the table,” striking a far tougher tone than did Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who on Wednesday suggested the U.S. wouldn’t commit forces.

“There are economic tools of leverage, there are of course military tools of leverage” the U.S. could use against Putin, Vance said.
They can leverage economy sanction. And can supply more weapons. But now it won't help much. If west did it in 2022 maybe, but now there not enough soldiers in Ukraine. Even grabbing 18 years from streets will add only 50k mens.
 
True, this war is about Eastern Ukraine but few people seem inclined to go actually fight there, there is even an entire wiki page of foreign fighters, reminiscent of the Spanish civil war :


A number of Indian nationals were reportedly 'duped' into fighting in Russia's army after being promised other jobs, admissions to "dubious private universities" and "free discounted visa extensions" within Russia,but were instead sent to the front lines. The identities of at least two Indian nationals expecting to work as "helpers" have been confirmed killed fighting at the front in Ukraine. In March 2024, India said it had uncovered a "major human trafficking network" which lured young men to Russia with the promise of jobs only to force them to fight in the war.

That's probably why the Russian offensive is fizzling out 1500 km from the nearest NATO border.
 
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Hegseth tells Europe to spend on defence as US presence may not last forever​

WARSAW, Feb 14 (Reuters) - European countries need to invest now in defence because it is not possible to assume that the United States' presence on the continent will last forever, U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said on Friday during a visit to Warsaw.
Pointing to Poland, which plans to spend 4.7% of GDP on defence this year, as a model ally, Hegseth doubled down on Washington's demands that European NATO allies take on more of the financial burden for their own security.

"What happens five or 10 or 15 years from now is part of a larger discussion that reflects the threat level, America's posture, our needs around the globe, but most significantly, the capability of European countries to step up," he told a news conference.
"And that's why our message is so stark to our European allies. Now is the time to invest, because you can't make an assumption that America's presence will last forever."
Echoing remarks made during a NATO defence ministers meeting in Brussels in which warned Europe against treating Washington like a "sucker" ultimately responsible for European defence, he said Washington was facing many threats, including from China

In his overseas debut after taking charge of the Pentagon on Jan. 24, Hegseth has kindled an outcry in Europe after announcing on Wednesday that a return to Ukraine's pre-2014 borders was unrealistic and that the Trump administration does not see NATO membership for Kyiv as part of a solution to the war triggered by Russia's 2022 invasion.
Hegseth's critics say the remarks amounted to the United States giving up its leverage in negotiations with Russia before they even started, in what they described as a major victory for Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Hegseth has defended his remarks as acknowledgement of battlefield realities and left the door open for U.S. moves during negotiations that could be seen as concessions, including on issues like U.S. military aid to Ukraine and troop levels in Europe.
I agree that EU should focus on defence spending, but if the US does indeed leaves us to fend for ourselves against the massacrers of Bucha, I say we should invest our money only in our defence industries, we have Grippens, Rafales, Caesars, Leopards and so on, so no more overpriced US tech!
 

Russia is sending 'hundreds' of its war wounded for treatment in North Korea, ambassador says​

Russia is sending soldiers who were wounded in the Ukraine war to recuperate in North Korea, its ambassador to Pyongyang told state media.

The comment from Alexander Matsegora, Moscow's diplomat to North Korea for over a decade, was part of a wide-ranging interview about cross-border relations that state-run outlet Rossiyskaya Gazeta published on Monday.

"A clear example of such a brotherly attitude is the rehabilitation of hundreds of wounded soldiers of the SVO in Korean sanatoriums and hospitals," he said. "SVO" is an abbreviation used by the Kremlin to describe the war in Ukraine as a "special military operation."

Matsegora said North Korea had refused compensation from Moscow.

"Everything related to staying in the DPRK, all this was absolutely free," he said.

Matsegora said there was a "warm attitude toward Russians" in North Korea and mentioned several joint student and internship programs in the works between the two countries.

His remarks are yet another sign of how the strengthening alliance between Russian leader Vladimir Putin and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un is playing out on the war front and beyond.

Kim is estimated to have sent about 11,000 to 12,000 of his elite troops to fight against Ukraine, prompting concerns in the West that Pyongyang's involvement would help its soldiers gain valuable combat experience.

Analysts from the Institute for the Study of War, a Washington-based think tank, wrote that Russia sending wounded troops to North Korea could boost what Pyongyang can learn.

"The arrival of combat-experienced Russian soldiers, particularly if they include officers or non-commissioned officers, to North Korea may allow the Russian military to work with North Korean forces and disseminate lessons from the war in Ukraine while ostensibly recuperating," they wrote.

Matsegora also told state media that professors from Pyongyang would be stationed in major Russian cities such as Moscow, Kazan, Novosibirsk, and Vladivostok for a "long period of time." There, they would teach the Korean language and teach joint classes, he said.

ISW analysts said this indicates that Russia hopes to set the stage for further North Korean assistance in the war, or at least for help with its sanctioned wartime economy.

"The Kremlin may be setting informational conditions to justify an influx of North Korean citizens arriving in Russia to join either the Russian workforce or the Russian military," the ISW analysts wrote.

Matsegora's comments also come as Russia's Federal Security Service reported that the number of North Koreans entering Russia for work in 2024 had surged to over 13,000 crossings. That's a 12-fold increase compared to 2023.

Still, the exponential jump could also be due to a recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic. In 2019, over 21,000 North Koreans were recorded traveling to Russia for work.

Seoul's National Intelligence Service said on Sunday that many of the North Korean workers sent to Russia last year were dispatched to construction sites.

Per the South Korean agency, the move has helped to fill a worker shortage in Russia as the Kremlin's push to recruit more soldiers is draining the country's young workforce.

The NIS further accused Pyongyang and Moscow of using student visas to "dispatch workers without the international community's knowledge."

The international community imposes a wide range of sanctions on North Korea, while the West has been actively trying to sanction key Russian sectors such as energy, finance, and defense due to its invasion of Ukraine.

Russian troops are turning to donkeys for battlefield transport as the war approaches its 3-year mark​

onkeys are starting to appear among the Kremlin's invasion forces, with Russian media and war commentators reporting that the animals are used to ferry ammunition and supplies.

The spotlight on the pack animals comes as the Ukraine war continues to strain resources on both sides, and as Russia's ability to sustain its cornered economy — now increasingly reliant on defense manufacturing — remains in question. Its full-scale invasion is set to enter its fourth year on February 24.

Pro-Kremlin military bloggers published footage last week of soldiers interacting with donkeys, saying they were deployed as pack transport. Business Insider could not independently verify the authenticity of the footage.

"The guys in one of the directions were given a donkey for logistics. A real donkey," wrote one military blogger who posted a photo of a donkey standing next to a uniformed man.

"What did you expect? Vehicles are in short supply these days!" wrote another Russian commentator, Kirill Federov.

A widely circulated voice note, which Russian bloggers said was from a soldier on the front lines, said the donkeys were not provided by volunteers but by Russia's Defense Ministry. However, the ministry has not publicly addressed the claim.

Federov and several other bloggers also posted an image of three armed people in uniform posing with a camel.

It's unclear how widely the donkeys are being deployed, but several Russian officials publicly defended the practice when the images went viral among military bloggers.

"There's nothing wrong with this," Viktor Sobolev, a member of the State Duma's defense committee, told the Russian outlet Gazeta. The State Duma is the lower house of Russia's national legislature.

Sobolev, a retired lieutenant general of the Russian army, cited " very significant difficulties in supplying units and subdivisions" with ammo and food. He said pack-animal transport was a valid solution, and that losing a donkey would be better for the Russian military than losing troops or transport vehicles.

"During the Great Patriotic War, part of our artillery was horse-drawn," Sobolev added, referring to World War II.

Another member of the State Duma defense committee, Viktor Zavarin, told the Russian TV network RTVI: "Let it work, let the donkeys help the victory."

The Russian Defense Ministry did not respond to a request for comment sent outside regular business hours by BI.

Meanwhile, the appearance of the donkeys has triggered a deluge of satirical memes in both Russia and Ukraine, such as a comic panel about a Soviet version of the donkey character Eeyore from the cartoon "Winnie the Pooh" being mobilized for the war.

Two Majors, a popular pro-war Russian military blogger, asked on Telegram if donkeys that gave birth in service would have their offspring considered state-owned property.

"If one is captured by an enemy sabotage group, will it be considered missing in action or a prisoner of war?" they wrote.
 
I agree that EU should focus on defence spending, but if the US does indeed leaves us to fend for ourselves against the massacrers of Bucha, I say we should invest our money only in our defence industries, we have Grippens, Rafales, Caesars, Leopards and so on, so no more overpriced US tech!

That’s already being done, the only thing we source from the US directly, are the F35s due to an agreement made in the 80s - everything else is made locally in Europe.

 

Hegseth tells Europe to spend on defence as US presence may not last forever​


I agree that EU should focus on defence spending, but if the US does indeed leaves us to fend for ourselves against the massacrers of Bucha, I say we should invest our money only in our defence industries, we have Grippens, Rafales, Caesars, Leopards and so on, so no more overpriced US tech!
I mean, Europe dwarfs Russia in population and GDP. If it can't defend itself against Russia, which has struggled to achieve total victory against a country it has a massive GDP and population advantage over... that's a problem.

I'm not against the US being an ally to Europe, but it's hard to argue against the proposition that the US enables poor European defense policy at this point. There need to be concrete expectations of what the European NATO allies be capable of in a conflict with Russia. I think it's completely fair to expect European NATO allies to maintain the ground forces necessary to repel Russia for 6-12 months, with the US providing air and naval support while it mobilizes its ground forces to push the Russians back to Moscow.

From the American perspective, China is a far bigger threat than Russia. The US can't be everywhere at once and China's military advances necessitate a shift to the Indo-Pacific.
 
From the American perspective, China is a far bigger threat than Russia. The US can't be everywhere at once and China's military advances necessitate a shift to the Indo-Pacific.
China is not a military threat against the US. Taiwan for sure is a target, but not the US. China's power is in its economic position and its ability to stir up trouble around its edges. I do not think Trump would engage China militarily. Probably wouldn't defend Taiwan.
 
China is not a military threat against the US. Taiwan for sure is a target, but not the US. China's power is in its economic position and its ability to stir up trouble around its edges. I do not think Trump would engage China militarily. Probably wouldn't defend Taiwan.
China build their 3d and 4th aircarier (1-2 year left), and iirc started build 5th. Yellow Sea you know. So, overseas parts of USA can be at target. If something go wrong.
Just today was released video, where Chinese fighter jet use flares against US navy Poseidon
 
they've learned to do stupid stuff from the best.
 
China build their 3d and 4th aircarier (1-2 year left), and iirc started build 5th. Yellow Sea you know. So, overseas parts of USA can be at target. If something go wrong.
Just today was released video, where Chinese fighter jet use flares against US navy Poseidon
Other than Taiwan, where do you think China would like to invade? They have been exerting pressure in the South China Sea for years to control that body of water.
 
Other than Taiwan, where do you think China would like to invade? They have been exerting pressure in the South China Sea for years to control that body of water.
China not willing to invade. But power projecting can collide with USA ambition (or vise versa). Africa, Panama, Philippines. They need to protect trade routes. And capital expansion. And since USA have interest in every corner in the world - trade war can became hotter.
Actually, in nowadays I want surprise at anything. "SMO" - is good example
 
Given the news about Chernobyl and Energodar, neither Zelensky nor the EU needs peace.

Munich Security Conference officials say no Russians are attending the conference
The chairman of the Munich Security Conference, Christoph Heusgen, has urged caution over Donald Trump's claim that talks between ‘high-level’ representatives of the US and Russia are planned in Munich.
‘We have not accredited a single representative of the Russian government. And you can't get here without accreditation,’ Heusgen told Deutschlandfunk ahead of the conference.
In addition, according to Heusgen, the German federal government did not issue appropriate visas to representatives of the Russian authorities.
At the same time, many European politicians criticised Trump for trying to start direct truce talks with Russia.
‘A peace that is essentially a surrender is bad news for everyone,’ French President Emmanuel Macron told the Financial Times.

source: @BILD_Russian.

Jeez, somebody bombed Chernobyl. :eek:

Whoever did it is crazy!

 
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