What Book Are You Reading XV - The Pile Keeps Growing!

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If anyone has read story #2 from Lem's Cyberiad (eg maybe @warpus), was the robot's own system of calculation supposed to be specific (consistent between calculations)?
If so, any guess as to what it would be? I was disappointed when Lem had the robot ask how much 2 times 2 is, but we never got its own answer for it, to compare with its calculation of 2 plus 2.

Robot's math:
2+2=7
1+1=0
7 isn't in between 6 and 8 (presumably robot 8 stands for human 7)
 
Finished The Last Republicans. Good book save for a terrible misquote and generally hewing to the establishment-friendly line: Hussein is used as a stock villain, for instance, with no mention made of the US supporting his war against Iran throughout the 1980s. Read The Fight of his Life, a history of the first two years of the Biden administration. Interesting in parts but laughably and obnoxiously partisan, an unfortunate difference between this and the author's book on the chiefs of staff, The Gatekeepers. Currently reading 41: A Portrait of my Father, which the author (George W) admits from the start is not objective, but rather affectionate. Enjoying it. Next up will be Promise Me, Dad by by Biden.
 
Just got The Transformed Earth by Peter Frankopan from the Library. It's a hefty book about civilization and natural history.
 
Finally got around to starting Sid Meier's Memoirs which I bought years ago but hadn't got to it yet as I don't read books as much as I used to. I'm a subscriber of Retro Gamer magazine and I always enjoy their interviews with 80s & 90s game dev legends where they talk about how they got started, creating a studio, the rise to fame, the studios end and what went wrong etc and Sid's book is already sounding like that. However the retro gamer articles are often about people and studios I only have a light interest in whereas the story of Sid and Microprose is of great interest to me, so I'm loving this so far!
 
Finally got around to starting Sid Meier's Memoirs which I bought years ago but hadn't got to it yet as I don't read books as much as I used to. I'm a subscriber of Retro Gamer magazine and I always enjoy their interviews with 80s & 90s game dev legends where they talk about how they got started, creating a studio, the rise to fame, the studios end and what went wrong etc and Sid's book is already sounding like that. However the retro gamer articles are often about people and studios I only have a light interest in whereas the story of Sid and Microprose is of great interest to me, so I'm loving this so far!

I enjoyed that, especially the sections on the '80s and '90s. Was disappointed he didn't write much on his collab with Will Wright. You might also like Masters of Doom, which is about John Romero, John Carmack, and the creation of ID. It's my favorite 'video games' book.
 
If anyone has read story #2 from Lem's Cyberiad (eg maybe @warpus), was the robot's own system of calculation supposed to be specific (consistent between calculations)?
If so, any guess as to what it would be? I was disappointed when Lem had the robot ask how much 2 times 2 is, but we never got its own answer for it, to compare with its calculation of 2 plus 2.

Robot's math:
2+2=7
1+1=0
7 isn't in between 6 and 8 (presumably robot 8 stands for human 7)

The robot was meant to be a metaphor for the puppet communist regime that was ruling Poland at the time, and the robot's illogical answers were meant to represent that regime's methods of stifling freedom of thought and expression of the people.

Meaning that even though everybody knew that 2+2=4, the communist regime had the power to say that 2+2=7, or any other answer they wanted, even if it made no sense, logically consistent or not.

So no, I don't think the robot's math was meant to be logically consistent - the same way such a regime it was representing would pick and choose "the truth", based on whatever they wanted to achieve at the time. If they said that 2+2=7, then people had to accept that or face the consequences - i.e. the robot chasing after them and attacking them.

When the robot breaks down at the end and falls apart, I believe that was supposed to be a metaphor for such a communist system eventually crumbling down, the people being victorious in the end. Which is what ended up happening in real life (in Poland at least)

Lem wrote many stories that criticized the government, but he had to hide his criticism behind stories like this one. The authorities would read his stories and approve them, without catching on to the true meaning.

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I just got back from a week at the cottage and ended up getting a bunch of reading done there. Here's my mission report:

I finished reading The Lives of Tao, the rest of the book was a nice read, and the conclusion was satisfactory enough. I say that, because I figured out what was going to happen before it did. Having said that, I am going to pick up the sequels and read them too. The characters were well written and fleshed out, and I want to see what happens next.

I also read through Proxima by Stephen Baxter. And I gotta say.. WOW! I've read Baxter before (The Time Ships), but Proxima just blew me away. It's gotta be in my top 10 all time favourite sci-fi novels ever.

First of all, it's a fascinating premise that I just couldn't wait to start digging into: A new age of exploration, of a planet of the nearest star to our own. It was so interesting to read all the scientific details of the various technologies required to make such a journey, to explore the planet, to build a colony, etc. It's obviously futuristic, but all the futuristic technologies seemed very grounded and realistic. All the science presented in the novel seems incredibly well thought out and imagined. Baxter has the right sort of background for that, but the way he weaves this story together is just masterful.

One thing I hated about the Red/Blue/Green Mars trilogy was that.. well.. the characters really sucked. They weren't developed well and they all sort of spoke the same. The story focused on the setting and ignored character development almost, which bored me. In contrast to that, Baxter was here able to focus on both the characters and the setting in a very balanced way. The characters are well imagined and well developed, the female characters are written in a way that many male sci-fi authors just can't seem to pull off very well, the relationships and chemistry & interactions between the characters were great, and there was a very nice balance of all that. One problem with Peter F Hamilton is that his female characters generally suck & he creates way too many secret agent type characters and way too many subplots and this and that happening independently, for it all to come together at points that felt very predetermined and somewhat coincidental. Baxter's approach here was in contrast a lot more down to Earth, the characters were a lot more believable, each one had their own personality that you could feel almost falling off the page. There was a decent amount of characters, but not too many. There were unexpected at times connections between them, but nothing over the top. Overall the character work in Proxima was just great. And you dont' end up weaving through hundreds of pages of seemingly unrelated stories, Baxter's writing here keeps you focused on the main story. There are subplots, but the general balance of all that is GREAT. This is a book I just couldn't put down. Every chapter was the exact length it needed to be. There is no point at which you're hoping to make your way to the next chapter just so you can get on with the story.. There is a perfect balance between dialogue and non-dialogue. Everything comes together so well.

Proxima also managed to surprise me at key points in the novel. Some reveals seemed a bit obvious to me, but many took me by complete surprise. The story keeps moving at a very nice pace, and when things are just starting to feel like they might start getting stale - something happens and you think "WOW, I have to keep reading"

Another thing I liked about this book was that it forces you to take in parts of the story through the eyes of people who don't necessarily know everything. Some books explain way too much, but Baxter basically forces us to understand everything through the eyes of the characters. Certain parts do venture outside of that dynamic, events are described that nobody sees, etc.. But a lot of the meat of the story is not rammed down your throat sort to speak. There are also well done plot/narrative devices that he uses that feed into this dynamic. For instance, there is a robot/rover which is able to analyze various experiments and speculate on the science behind whatever they're exploring or looking at. It's done in a way that escapes being cliche. So while we see a lot of the story through the eyes of the characters, there is a great balance there with some extra information and speculation you get from various other sources.

This is not necessarily the sort of book you think it might be. It's not a book about how a planet got colonized or terraformed. Some of that happens, but it's first and foremost a book about humanity and about the characters who find themselves in the situations that they do. There are grand scale space opera type events that happen in the novel as well, so don't assume it is 100% character focused either. The word that kept popping in my head over and over was - balance.

The planet explored/colonized/interacted with is a great example of worldbuilding, with the geologic, cosmological, physical, biological, etc. aspects all well thought out. The setting is great and engaging and parts of it reminded me of the wonder I felt when I first read Rendezvous with Rama as a teen. The place felt plausible and real to me, and yet at the same time it felt utterly fantastical and magical.

The ending is unexpected and made me want to immediately order the sequel. It arrives tomorrow.
 
@warpus , is there any interview/note by Lem about this specifically? Because it felt a bit off to tease the reader with stuff they could use to establish if the robot had a consistent system - for example, I at first felt that this was why the other scientist argued such a robot can be of use. 7, after all, clearly does not stand for the 7 we know, since the robot uses (apparently) 8 for that. And any mechanical system simply has to have internal consistency :)
Then again, I have to assume that if Lem had anything like this in mind, he'd bother to use it a bit more. So I guess it's a case of the reader projecting stuff into the story, maybe with the author intending this to be done by a few readers but not meaning to otherwise incorporate it in the story.
 
@warpusAnd any mechanical system simply has to have internal consistency :)

Having read a couple other of Lem's novels & shorter stories and grokking his style and approach to some minor degree.. I get the sense that he used a robot here because robots are generally internally consistent. It puts even more emphasis on his point and makes it more extreme. All while flying under the noses of the authorities, which likely amused Lem to some degree.

I think a part of the point is supposed to be that an authoritarian communist regime is not internally consistent in terms of what gets announced as being the truth. But the way such a regime will present this truth will be as though it's obvious that it is the truth and that they have a foolproof & internally consistent method for acquiring truth.

So Lem picks a robot to represent the regime, because the regime is saying "Hey, look at us, we are the ultimate authority of truth and we are perfect", just like an internally consistent robot might. But when you really examine what is going on, you'll find the exact opposite - an internally inconsistent thing that spits out "the truth" with no internally consistent logic behind it. And meanwhile Lem is basically standing there slapping us across the face with the point, amused that his story will probably get published because the authorities are bureaucratic automatons who take everything literally.
 
Encountered an odd novel over the weekend called Hope Never Dies, in which Biden and Obama, with nothing else to do, play cop/PI and investigate the death of one of Biden's friends. A little goofy but interesting lite entertainment. The main characters are its big draw, but since they are who they are the author can't do much them, and they overshadow any potential supporting characters.
 
If anyone has read story #2 from Lem's Cyberiad (eg maybe @warpus), was the robot's own system of calculation supposed to be specific (consistent between calculations)?
If so, any guess as to what it would be? I was disappointed when Lem had the robot ask how much 2 times 2 is, but we never got its own answer for it, to compare with its calculation of 2 plus 2.

Robot's math:
2+2=7
1+1=0
7 isn't in between 6 and 8 (presumably robot 8 stands for human 7)
What a coincidence, the cyberiad is exactly what I'm listening to. Even if I'm missing most of the satire, its still really funny on a surface level.
Question, were the terrible puns in the original polish? Because if so, this translation is really impressive.
 
Finally got around to starting Sid Meier's Memoirs which I bought years ago but hadn't got to it yet as I don't read books as much as I used to. I'm a subscriber of Retro Gamer magazine and I always enjoy their interviews with 80s & 90s game dev legends where they talk about how they got started, creating a studio, the rise to fame, the studios end and what went wrong etc and Sid's book is already sounding like that. However the retro gamer articles are often about people and studios I only have a light interest in whereas the story of Sid and Microprose is of great interest to me, so I'm loving this so far!
I enjoyed that, especially the sections on the '80s and '90s. Was disappointed he didn't write much on his collab with Will Wright. You might also like Masters of Doom, which is about John Romero, John Carmack, and the creation of ID. It's my favorite 'video games' book.
John Romero has an upcoming autobiography, I read somewhere recently.
 
What a coincidence, the cyberiad is exactly what I'm listening to. Even if I'm missing most of the satire, its still really funny on a surface level.
Question, were the terrible puns in the original polish? Because if so, this translation is really impressive.
From what I remember, when I compared the Polish and English texts of some of the short stories that revolved around wordplay, the translations were very impressive. They managed to convey a lot of the humour and subtext that was inherent in the wordplay, the puns, the modified words, etc. I remember being really impressed with some of those English translations for that reason - Polish is much different language with many different rules and things you can do with words.. which Lem makes use of, especially so in the short stories that made use of those mechanics of the language. To somehow twist all that into English and retain a lot of the meaning intact, in a well written prose that's easy to read.. that really impressed me at the time.

I could be wrong, but I think I remember reading that the translation I was reading went through French as well.. So, Polish -> French -> English.. which made it more amazing.

This might not apply to all the translations out there, no doubt there's been different people doing the translating (I assume). But the ones I read for a bunch of the short stories, they were really well done. Solaris, too, IIRC. It just stuck out a lot more w/ the short stories that made use of wordplay, because before reading them I thought to myself: "How are they even going to translate all that"?.. and.. they did, and well, too.
 
"His closest companion may have been a mushroom."

I'm mostly through Stranger in the Woods, about a guy who lived in the forest in Maine for 27 years, speaking exactly one word - "Hi" - during that time, to a hiker he encountered about 10 years after he moved to the woods. A fascinating read, especially the parts that focus on the guy who lived in the woods; there's a little bit too much on other well-known hermits and the psychology of solitude for me, but that's probably for the 80% of local people the author interviewed in Maine who found his story to be incredible, in the not-credible sense. I'm not planning to move to the forest, but I can see how for a certain type of person, a week could become a month could become a few decades living in nature.

What did he do during those 27 years? Mostly nothing. Sitting in a chair in his clearing in the very dense woods. Occasionally hiking in the late summer. Sometimes listening to the radio, or reading books.

Wait, you ask, where did he get enough books to read for 27 years?

Oh, he also committed over a thousand burglaries.

By his own estimate, he committed about 40 burglaries per year of the cabins around the nearest lake each year (IIRC there were over a hundred cabins, it was a decent-size lake). Mostly for food (this part of Maine not being the most abundant), but also books, batteries, mattresses (they eventually get moldy while out in the forest, even when sheltered in a tent), tents, propane, whatever he needed to survive in the woods. Watches so he could make sure he got back to his clearing before sunrise. Bug spray for the mosquitoes. About $15 per year in case he ever needed to go into town to buy supplies (he never did). Shaving cream. He was always clean-shaven when committing burglaries, he didn't want to look suspicious, like someone living in the woods, in case he ran into someone on the way there.

I'd read an article about this guy in some online newspaper some time last decade so I had a hunch it was about him when I saw the cover. It's worth a read if you also read one of those articles and was curious for more details.

So yeah, about three-quarters finished, the sections focused on him have been page-turners. Hit and miss on the other sections.

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Next in queue, starting at the same time for some non-fiction, is The Long War by Terry Pratchett and Stephen Baxter. I read The Long Earth last month, and it was pretty good. Probably doesn't beat Good Omens, but it's a pretty neat concept. Parallel universes - something that had never had much appeal to me - works in Pratchett and Baxter's universe. The basic premise is that humanity figures out how to "step" to adjacent universes, which in practice means different earths. Each one had evolved slightly differently, but there are patterns. The Coal Belt. The Corn Belt. The Ice Belt. Thousands of worlds with similar quantities generally adjacent to each other, with the occasional Joker - a significantly unique world - thrown in. It's like if you lined up all the possible randomly-generated Civ maps by similarity, and eventually you'd generated all the temperate ones, so the next band was the rainy ones. But the wildlife has evolved a bit differently too, you'll still have horse-like creatures, but not quite the same. Humans carry chickens and other small-to-midsize animals over to the adjacent worlds so they can have their familiar pets and small livestock, but you'll have some unusual combinations too.

And then there are the trolls.

Trolls have figured out how to step between worlds long ago, and tend to prefer not to be around humans in significant quantities, something like 1900 humans in the immediate vicinity is a much as they'll tolerate. This is why you hear more about trolls back in the Middle Ages than you do now, Earth is stuffed with humans now and the trolls prefer to live on the adjacent versions of the Earth. But in low quantities, humans and trolls can coexist quite well.

There are some limitations on moving between adjacent worlds, though. Nothing ferrous, i.e. iron, can be moved between worlds. So smelting furnaces have to be built on each planet, or you have to make your tools of bronze or another non-ferric material. You can't jump between worlds if the adjacent world doesn't have open space where you're trying to move to, so no jumping underground unless there's a cave on both plants, for example. And you really shouldn't step from non-ground levels. A bunch of people broke their legs when this "step to a new planet" thing was brand-new and people would be trying out their homemade stepping devices from their second-floor apartment or third-floor dorm room.

So that's the setting, and the main characters are on a quest to find out what's at the end of the worlds, if there is indeed an end to the worlds. Along the way, there are many side stories interwoven that paint a picture of humanity's interaction with and adjustment to this profoundly new state of affairs, going from being stuck on one planet with 7.5 billion people to having as much land as you could possibly want, along with challenges such as the question of how do you enforce payment of taxes when your citizens can just step to an adjacent version of Great Britain and live in the forest for the next 27 years?

And... I think this post has come full circle.
 
I enjoyed the Long Earth books, but was a little disappointed by the lack of Pterry's characteristic absurdism. I assume the potato was his, but other than that, the series seemed much more Baxter than Pratchett.
 
Apart from the stuff he wrote back when he was still the local newspaper's office-boy ("started aged 17, and saw [his] first corpse less than 24 hours later -- work-experience actually meaning something in those days!"), he didn't do that much in the way of short stories, AFAIK.

Off the top of my head, the only short-story collection I can think of is Dragons at Crumbling Castle -- which is, you know, for kids (the stories were written for the children's page of the paper).

Edit:
Wiki sez I'm wrong. There are a bunch of other short-story collections listed on Pratchett's page, including A Blink of the Screen, which I also have (but which was clearly less memorable than Dragons...)

You might like Theatre of Cruelty -- if only for the title...
 
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John Romero has an upcoming autobiography, I read somewhere recently.

It will be interesting to see if his ego has grown more managable from the "John Romero is going to make you his _____" days.

Currently about to finish Out of Orbit, a history of Expedition 6 (the ISS crew who were stranded after Columbia died), as well as Skeleton Keys, a look at the history and life of human bones. Out of Orbit is well written despite not having much content to write about (a general overview of the space program, Apollo, etc are worked in). Skeleton Keys is enjoyable enough but light reading.
 
Finished Stranger in the Woods. I had just a couple pages of relatively boring psychology-of-isolation pages left when I wrote my last book, and once I finished that, the last 25% was finished in short order, and riveting. It goes all the way through about two years after the stranger in the woods, Chris Knight, is re-introduced to society. The "Note on the Reporting" epilogue is worth reading as well.

In part because I learned that prior to publishing the book, the author wrote an article on the subject for GQ, which you can read here. I've only skimmed it since I just read the book, but it's clearly longer and more detailed than the newspaper articles I read, but a lot shorter than the book - in other words, good old-fashioned long-form magazine journalism. But it also has some photographs, including of the camp in the woods, that were not in the book. I appreciate that I read the book without having seen a picture of its main character, but also appreciate the visuals on the camp in particular; the book had a sketch which was helpful and well-done, but the pictures add to it.

The epilogue also had some notes on bibliography, both that the author read as part of his research, and of Knight's favorite books. For the latter, Dostoevsky's Notes from the Underground tops the list. From the former, it's the second work that I've had recommend Hiroo Onada's No Surrender; Onada is famous as the Imperial Japanese soldier who surrendered to Allied forces in 1974, only after his commanding officer flew down from Japan in person - by then long since retired from the military and working in a bookstore - and ordered him to surrender. Onada was far from the only Japanese soldier to surrender in 1960 or later, but was one of the last, and wrote a book about it. I'll probably have to add it to my reading list, and possibly Notes from the Underground as well.

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I haven't actually read any works written solely by Pratchett, though I've heard good things.

I would have guessed Out of Orbit may have had a good amount to write about based on that topic, but I suppose if you are stuck in space you mostly keep doing what you'd normally do in space, and perhaps the on-earth planning is either too technical or too straightforward to require many pages? Last winter when that Soyuz capsule sprang a leak and lost all its coolant, I found the articles on contingency planning for space emergencies to be fascinating, and went on a bit of a tangent reading up on similar incidents, but I'm not sure I touched on the crew who was stranded after Columbia. Still remember when it happened though.

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Next in my non-fiction queue is Radium Girls, about the women who worked in glow-in-the-dark watch dial factories and similar professions in the early 1900s, before there was a lot of common understanding of the dangers of radioactivity. I have a bit of a fascination with all these occupational health and safety hazards that took what seems in retrospect like a really long time to address, and had read some about this topic, and more recently about white phosphorus match factories. There's a reason that modern matches use red phosphorus; white phosphorus can have some terrifying health effects if you're continually exposed to it, although I'm suspicious of Diamond's present-day green matches (are they just using cheaper white phosphorous with food coloring? Probably not, but I failed to find a good explanation for why they're green).

I'm not sure if radium poisoning is quite as scary as phossy jaw, but it turns out it's also not a good idea to be licking radium-coated paintbrushes on your day job, and I intend to learn more about how it was that society realized that, and how we came up with better methods of making glow-in-the-dark hands on watches.
 
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Halfway through Born Under a Lucky Star: A Red Army Soldier's Recollections of the Eastern Front of World War II by Ivan Philippovich Makarov

Being part of the red army during WW2 does not sound like a good time. Not a good time at all.
 
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