What does a MAGA hat stand for?

[Cloud_Strife]

Yeah, in fairytale world a.k.a. the universe inhabited by the authors of economics textbooks, this is true.
In the real-world, though, employees would benefit tremendously from just-cause firing regulations or even just being protected by a contract that requires you to be fired for a defined cause.

I was just laid off from my job a few months ago with no notice and no recourse, and I find the suggestion that this was beneficial to me in some way to be asinine and offensive.



I believe this is the case when the employees concerned have actual contracts. I don't believe it's the case with at-will employees. The definition of at-will employment is that you can be fired for no reason and you have no standing to sue for wrongful termination unless the employer is stupid enough to explicitly tell you "I fired you because you were pregnant/black/trans" or whatever. Not many employers are that stupid.

Don't bother man, he genuinely believes what he's saying.

 

[Lexicus]

That's pretty much why statistics are garbage as a tool for crafting policy.

Yeah, instead we should make policy based on Commodore's gut feelings. Did you know there are more nerve endings in your gut than in your brain? Before you tell me "that's not true," realizing you're relying on statistics to do so, which means your argument was defeated before you even made it

Checkmate

 

[Estebonrober]

Idk , so far, I've summed up your current decision making as a combination of 20/20 hindsight (your abolitionist argument) and fortune telling wishful thinking. As for the present however, i find your positions uncompromising.

yes I’m pretty uncompromising. The right wing has establish democrats to compromise with constantly. The Biden’s will quite happily pass crime bills and bankruptcy laws that would make decent people blush. The GOP will quite enjoy his presidency in reality but ***** about it the entire time.

I’ll try to get squad type progressives elected wherever I can to pull that Overton Window back from the “freedumb caucus” types.

 

[Estebonrober]

No, you really don't. You just look at statistics and make generalizations based on that. The problem with statistics though is they don't show nuance or account for each individual's unique circumstances.

That's pretty much why statistics are garbage as a tool for crafting policy.

/stares at rest of world with better healthcare outcomes at half the price

Uh huh. Do go on.

 

[rah]

I believe this is the case when the employees concerned have actual contracts. I don't believe it's the case with at-will employees. The definition of at-will employment is that you can be fired for no reason and you have no standing to sue for wrongful termination unless the employer is stupid enough to explicitly tell you "I fired you because you were pregnant/black/trans" or whatever. Not many employers are that stupid.

And you would be wrong. Every large company I have worked for documents and has processes that must be followed to minimize lawsuits. All in at-will states. None had contracts for regular employees, just for certain positions.

 

[Lexicus]

And you would be wrong. Every large company I have worked for documents and has processes that must be followed to minimize lawsuits. All in at-will states. None had contracts for regular employees, just for certain positions.

Sure, and in at-will states all you need is enough documentation to "prove" you weren't firing the employee for a specifically legislated-against reason.

 

[rah]

That is not what you claimed originally. Your revised one is indeed closer to reality. But I've also seen it used for protection for reasons not legistlated.
I'm actually surprised that working for a union organization didn't protect you more. I would have guessed differently

 

[Hygro]

That is not what you claimed originally. Your revised one is indeed closer to reality. But I've also seen it used for protection for reasons not legistlated.
I'm actually surprised that working for a union organization didn't protect you more. I would have guessed differently

Hah. Pro left orgs can be some of the worst.

 

[Commodore]

/stares at rest of world with better healthcare outcomes at half the price

You don't have to lie to kick it.

 

[bernie14]

yes I’m pretty uncompromising. The right wing has establish democrats to compromise with constantly. The Biden’s will quite happily pass crime bills and bankruptcy laws that would make decent people blush. The GOP will quite enjoy his presidency in reality but ***** about it the entire time.

I’ll try to get squad type progressives elected wherever I can to pull that Overton Window back from the “freedumb caucus” types.

Now that's some zero sum thinking right there....you could have left it at uncompromising

 

[Estebonrober]

Now that's some zero sum thinking right there....you could have left it at uncompromising

zero sum about Overton Window?

 

[bernie14]

zero sum about Overton Window?

touche.... although as a moderate, i would rather see that window widen, than pulled to one extreme or the other.

With all the generalizations, statistics and transtalk going on, i decided to look into the topic more specifically and found this. Of course, in the US this would not be a problem because there would be pies in the sky

 

[Arwon]

Would you still say that if a place blanket-refuses to perform gender reassignment surgery? According to the logic you've presented, that would not be an example of discrimination, but rather the opposite.

It's not really discrimination in that sort of case, as with Catholic reproductive ethics refusals TF raised. It's just inadequate care, and a powerful argument for keeping religious administration out of the provision of healthcare services. We have two hospitals in my city, the one in the north is Catholic (still run on public money). Inasmuch as their Catholic administration interferes with their health services delivery, which seems to be a thing, that's not on, and if they can't provide the full spectrum of healthcare as required they really should be removed from provision of healthcare all together.

 

[caketastydelish]

I am not a Trump supporter in any way but I am surprised so that many snowflakes are being triggered by a goddamn hat. Maybe I should considering buying and wearing one.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Actually, that's exactly what it means. An at-will employment contract means you can be fired with no reason given, no notice, and you have no recourse.

Sure, and in at-will states all you need is enough documentation to "prove" you weren't firing the employee for a specifically legislated-against reason.

"At will" allows an employer to fire a person for any reason or no reason, but not an illegal reason. The recourse for the fired employee is to show that they were fired for an illegal reason.

 

[Synobun]

I am not a Trump supporter in any way but I am surprised so that many snowflakes are being triggered by a goddamn hat. Maybe I should considering buying and wearing one.

It's unfortunate "edgy" Cake is back. You posted so many times about becoming a better person.

 

[AmazonQueen]

I am not a Trump supporter in any way but I am surprised so that many snowflakes are being triggered by a goddamn hat. Maybe I should considering buying and wearing one.

I don't know that people are triggered by the hat so much as by the positions wearing the hat implies support for. If you wear a MAGA hat then you have no grounds for complaint if people assume you are OK with what Trump has done and is doing.

 

[Arwon]

Nothing more subversive and edgy than slapping on the symbol of the people running the country

 

[caketastydelish]

It's unfortunate "edgy" Cake is back. You posted so many times about becoming a better person.

Do you seriously think anything less liberal than the Democratic party is equivalent to nazis and kkk? Even the mainstream GOP platform?

 

[Synobun]

Do you seriously think anything less liberal than the Democratic party is equivalent to nazis and kkk? Even the mainstream GOP platform?

The only person who said that is Luiz. Why am I held to his fever dream?