Oh please. This is a cop-out.
"Anyone who has participated in high school debate or speech........
Should be aware of the reality of relayed information."
[and the fact that once you've said it you're on the hook for it]
What if Fox News was the only source of News
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Oh please. This is a cop-out.
"Anyone who has participated in high school debate or speech........
Should be aware of the reality of relayed information."
[and the fact that once you've said it you're on the hook for it]
Telling me over and over that heroin ins't bad for my health, merely irritates me.
But opiates must be doing something right. Because people do use it. However much that annoys blah blah blah...
See? That's not a rational objection. It's a silly line of reasoning.
"people do watch it" is precisely the warning in the movie Idiocracy - and you've just demonstrated yet again the necessity of critical thinking.
"people do watch it" is the antithesis of critical thinking. FoxNews caters to the lowest level of viewership in order to sell advertising: that's the model of for-profit "news".
"people do watch it" implies nothing more than that they're successful at placing ads infront of susceptible eyeballs. If you watch FoxMews that means that in a statistical sense you're the equivalent of a consumer lamb being sung a lullaby. Critical thinking, indeed.
And telling you something over and over must indeed be irritating. I imagine you'd have to cover your ears and stick your head in the sand at some point. Because at the end of the day, FoxNews has earned its reputation as the least fact-worthy and most spin-polluted TV news organization around. Christ, they make Democracy Now! look like moderates
Ok Mr Grimes let us look at a specific example:
For the last TEN YEARS, every six months or so, someone trots out a 'poll'
that claims to show that the majority of US citizens favor universal amnesty for
illegal aliens.
This is invariably picked up and repeated by all the news media, sometimes even by
FoxNews. The assertion is a lie.
When asked if they favor an expansion of the labor pool by 60 million, they says
NO, by a wide margin.
This is where, so called news, loses my interest. I know for a fact that the people
here, where I live, want every illegal deported upon discovery. Odd how that isnt what the media here claims. They claim that the majority of my co-inhabitants
want the illegals to be granted citizenship. That is a lie.
They majority are VERY tired of being victimized by the illegals. It is getting so bad
that it is dangerous in certain parts of town to advertise you are illegal.
The reasons are many, and not pertinent to this thread. What is pertinent is that
the mass media is trying to persuade us that are personal feelings are not shared.
We know they are. That is why the paper media is almost bankrupt. No one is
willing to read their lies.
If you are claiming that FoxNews makes more money, then maybe the other media
should follow suit
The marketplace has provided a niche for Fox News as a distant 4th behind NBC, CBS, and ABC. There are enough potential viewers outside the mainstream to support such a cable outlet, but not enough to support a national newscast on the over-the-air Fox network.
Then why the outrage?> If no one is listening, no one can be harmed.
There is no problem =)
What outrage? It is just something to mock.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Go ahead. I would like to see that argument.
Indeed. People like sensationalism.
Just delicious
You don't recognize that there is a fundamental difference between poor quality news services, which is most of them, and a news service that is deliberately and specifically lying to push a political agenda, like Fox?
Archbob
Ancient CFC Guardian
People watch Glenn Beck, even though he cries all the time for no apparent reason, people love this sensationalism stuff.
That just proves that leaving the news completely up to market forces is a bad idea. The majority of watchers wants entertainment or affirmation of their entrenched beliefs, which is often incomptabile with reporting facts, not reporting non-stories and being objective.
I'm not even saying that only public stations should be allowed to do the news but enforcing some minimum standards for everyone who want to call their show a news broadcast and their channel a news network isn't really too much to ask for and not even an anti-market solution or something like that.
I'm not even saying that only public stations should be allowed to do the news but enforcing some minimum standards for everyone who want to call their show a news broadcast and their channel a news network isn't really too much to ask for and not even an anti-market solution or something like that.
Besides, the market is working - big corporations putting out lots of liberal content to attract big audiences and jack up their ad rates.
SouthernKing
crickety cricket
It never fails to amuse me how people speak of the "market" as if the market were some metaphysical entity.
Bias caused by incompetance is still a bias.
You keep assuming that I am lockstep with Fox. Nope. I just dont hate them.
I dont. Its trite. What a pity you cant refute Beck on what he actually says.
And of course your sources/beliefs/whatever are more valid than anyone elses =)
No man, they are not
And failing, like in the case of MSNBC
The corporations putting on the liberal newscasts for CBS, NBC, and ABC are not doing too bad for themselves. Certainly all dwarfing Fox.
Don't act like this is something new or has anything to do with censorship or government approval. There already are tons of labels for your product that require your product to meet certain criteria. Why not apply this to news?
Heck, over here it's regulated when you can call your juice "juice", which seems to be a minor concern compared to the freaking fourth estate.
And freedom of the press requires that there is actual journalism going on. Nobody would forbid Fox News to air what they want, they just wouldn't be able to label it "news" and "journalism" anymore.
Who did this?
Beliefs are irrelevant for judging if something is news. That you don't get this is the reason for the sorry state of television news networks.
Besides, where did I make myself the arbiter of this?
It's only bias if they are deliberately skewing the reports to push an agenda. And Fox is the only major news source in the US that does that. Nearly all the others bend over backwards to not have any form of a bias.
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I agree. I think those propagating "news" should be held to the highest standards for truthfulness.
Alas, they very rarely are. And the penalties for misinformation are trivial in the extreme.
It may not even be possible to hold them to account in general.
