While We Wait: Boredom Strikes Back

[Adrogans]

Steam is the DRM though so you need it anyway.

 

[Daftpanzer]

Yeah I imagine the store-bought versions will just have a key code and a CD with a steam installer on it. And it annoys me that an extra civ is dangled as a bribe for going the full steam route.

My main concern is that there is no stacking at all, that seems very game-y. I'd much prefer 'collateral damage' when a stack is bombarded, why nobody ever copied that from Alpha Centauri I don't know. And the automatic artillery duels too!

So in the early ages, stacks are more effective, as artillery and ranged weapons are weaker. Which is realistic. But you could have some 'attrition damage' when stacking outside your territory, especially in deserts and jungles etc. IMO

 

[Terrance888]

Firaxes should abandon Civilization and make Daftpanzer ZPNES series games. Except, of course, with an ingrained, awesome and slightly random AI to put up updates. That will sell better than hot cakes, and everyone will be talking about NESlife, ZPNES penguins, and epic battles than CiV.

I won't buy. Not as good as the real thing.

 

[Adrogans]

Yeah I imagine the store-bought versions will just have a key code and a CD with a steam installer on it. And it annoys me that an extra civ is dangled as a bribe for going the full steam route.

My main concern is that there is no stacking at all, that seems very game-y. I'd much prefer 'collateral damage' when a stack is bombarded, why nobody ever copied that from Alpha Centauri I don't know. And the automatic artillery duels too!

So in the early ages, stacks are more effective, as artillery and ranged weapons are weaker. Which is realistic. But you could have some 'attrition damage' when stacking outside your territory, especially in deserts and jungles etc. IMO

But they did different bonuses if you went to target, best buy, amazon, or walmart as well.

 

[Oruc]

Shouldn't have to. They list Babylon as a bonus civ if you download through steam, which seems to imply there'll be a store version

I don't like using games through steam.

 

[LittleBoots]

I don't like using games through steam.

...Yeah, me neither. Which was my point. You don't have to download it through steam. And I hadn't heard of steam being the DRM for it, I assume its just a cd key.

I think I'll like the end of stacks (also, Daft, they had collateral damage in Civ4). We'll see if it works as well as I'm hoping in terms of making wars more strategic and forcing combat into the open countryside instead of all city based. I think front lines would be cool.

Also, I can't imagine that Babylon will be forever unattainable if you don't get it through steam. I'm sure it will be DLC at some point, and there's always modding to look forward to.

 

[Oruc]

...Yeah, me neither. Which was my point. You don't have to download it through steam. And I hadn't heard of steam being the DRM for it, I assume its just a cd key.

I think it is mate, I looked on Direct2drive and it says "•Other Requirements: Initial installation requires one-time Internet connection for Steam authentication; software installations required (included with the game) include Steam Client, Microsoft Visual C++2008 Runtime Libraries and Microsoft DirectX" maybe thats just downloaded versions.

 

[Daftpanzer]

But they did different bonuses if you went to target, best buy, amazon, or walmart as well.

Oh I didnt know that. Well now our beloved civs have become Happy Meals toys

I think I'll like the end of stacks (also, Daft, they had collateral damage in Civ4).

Collateral damage, really? I need to play Civ4 again. I remember one epic game with lots of modern warfare and evil corporate expansion but no damaging whole stacks at a time.

 

[LittleBoots]

I think it is mate, I looked on Direct2drive and it says "•Other Requirements: Initial installation requires one-time Internet connection for Steam authentication; software installations required (included with the game) include Steam Client, Microsoft Visual C++2008 Runtime Libraries and Microsoft DirectX" maybe thats just downloaded versions.

In the words of the Ancient Greek philosopher Plato, "wtfz mang, srsly ghey."

Collateral damage, really? I need to play Civ4 again. I remember one epic game with lots of modern warfare and evil corporate expansion but no damaging whole stacks at a time.

Yeah, artillery damages 5-6 units at once, and bombers. Used to be that tanks had a collateral damage promotion too, but that got axed in a patch because it was unbalancing.

 

[Karalysia]

Yeah but all collateral damage does it make stacks even larger to compensate.

 

[Dachs]

Steam is probably the biggest selling point on this thing for me

and I still won't buy it for awhile cause I play loads of Mass Effect 2 instead

 

[Adrogans]

mmmm ME2 I need to load that back up.

 

[Northen Wolf]

I refuse to p(l)ay game that demand me to have internet access, as I don't often have access (traveling). And As far as I know, Steam DRM requires me to have internet access to play any games.

Also this thread is interesting about gog.com and it's future.

 

[merciary]

you can actually use Steam in offline mode

 

[Adrogans]

It only needs to connect online once as the DRM then you can play in offline after that.

 

[Northen Wolf]

It only needs to connect online once as the DRM then you can play in offline after that.

It still requires me to have internet connection possibility - and that's sometimes a luxury for me. Not every house has internet connection/wireless coverage and not every land corner around here has 3,5G/WiMAX wireless coverage. If I have to get online to play 30 mins to 3 hours before going to sleep, then no thanks.

 

[merciary]

You only need to have it online when you buy and install it, after that you can play offline.

 

[Daftpanzer]

I thought you need to be online and running Steam every time you start up, so the DRM can authorise itself or whatevers.

 

[merciary]

Well I have Steam and when I don't have internet and I start it up it prompts me to start in offline mode. I never use it though so who knows.

 

[Daftpanzer]

I wouldn't mind Spore's style DRM if it wasnt so hard to remove when you want to. You just have the one authentication after install, and then you're good to go, online or off. No other big programs running in the background.