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Thanksgiving is such a weird tradition.

http://www.robertbellah.com/articles_5.htm

This might serve to enlighten you on the finer points of the American public life. Thanksgiving Day is part and parcel with a bunch of other civil holidays (in declining importance: The Fourth of July, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, Presidents' Day, Columbus Day) which reinforce and foster the American identity.

Honestly the native stuff didn't become relevant until the last couple decades. Originally Thanksgiving was to be a national day of prayer to a generalized deity, but the day didn't become a true popular holiday until the immense bloodletting of the Civil War caused us to emphasize the strength of family in response to the gravity of the fratricidal strife.

Columbus Day is a far bigger target for Native American apologists, imo. :p
 
Not really. As a Catholic "apologist" I'll tend to emphasize the positives of the Catholic Church without the negatives (atrocities sponsored or sanctioned by that body).

A Native American apologist would tend to emphasize the beauty and decency of Native American cultures (certainly a fact) and emphasize atrocities committed against Native Americans, while minimizing atrocities carried out by Native Americans.
 
What atrocities? The Catholic Church's record is spotless, as befits the Earthly voice of God.
 
Well, it is no longer an official holiday. Actual communists do like to use it as an occasion for meetings and marches and so on, of course. However, in my case it is more of an occasion for an annual extended family gathering. Which features dinner, chess, champagne, toasts, songs from old Soviet movies and talking about each others' careers and personal life. And sometimes, vicious arguments about politics, especially if my father bothers to attend and fails to keep his opinions to himself. Stuff like that.

I strongly suspect my family isn't the only part of the former Soviet middle class and/or intelligentsia to celebrate it in that way. That said, I haven't had the occasion to attend other celebrations. And some families might prefer New Year or Victory Day, which have the advantage of being popular official holidays as opposed to National Solidarity Day that is supposed to replace the October Revolution, but that everyone aggressively refuses to care about.

Back in the Soviet Union such family get-togethers would have coexisted with a big public celebration, of course.

If you don't mind a few other questions, what is your opinion on the former Soviet holidays and such? And basically what Russia is like these days compared to how it was before?
 
If you don't mind a few other questions, what is your opinion on the former Soviet holidays and such? And basically what Russia is like these days compared to how it was before?

Kind of a big question. Soviet holidays - the ones that survived - are irremovable parts of a social tradition, as are some other symbolic Soviet holdovers. They're both a part of our history and a part of the history of some institutions (such as, say, my university) that were founded or strongly transformed in the Soviet era, so turning back on them makes about as much sense as turning back on medieval holidays because you disapprove of the cruelty of feudalism.

Russia had constructed a vast, somewhat overbearing social state linked to an ideological totalitarian system and a strong police apparatus. It had many unpleasant or even insane aspects, but at the same time, it is easy to argue that Russia had experienced the highest living standards for the biggest part of its population under Brezhnev. The importance of at least a semblance of safety and public order in most places is also hard to overrate, even if the whole system was rotting rapidly by then.

So right now that whole system of assurances and controls came crashing down, taking many people who had come to rely on it with it, both literally (fatality rates jumped up for a variety of reasons) and figuratively. Only a relative minority managed to thrive in the new environment (my family didn't exactly thrive, but it didn't lose any ground either, so I suppose I can't complain too much). And everything that happened since was basically an attempt to recover from all that. Admittedly things did stabilise a lot by now, but on the other hand, the wealth disparity is not getting any better, and the education system is taking some serious blows due to attempts to make educational facilities pay for themselves. So one of the biggest things happening right now is that free education is being done away with/sharply restricted.

EDIT: Of course there's also more public freedom/less coercion, and little to no functioning ideological controls. The benefits of this are far easier to appreciate when you are part of an intellectual middle class though, I'd imagine, and even then they might be rather limited in practice.
 
Gem Hound said:
Black Friday isn't even worth mentioning because it is so weird.
Not really, see: Boxing Day.
 
Kind of a big question. Soviet holidays - the ones that survived - are irremovable parts of a social tradition, as are some other symbolic Soviet holdovers. They're both a part of our history and a part of the history of some institutions (such as, say, my university) that were founded or strongly transformed in the Soviet era, so turning back on them makes about as much sense as turning back on medieval holidays because you disapprove of the cruelty of feudalism.

Russia had constructed a vast, somewhat overbearing social state linked to an ideological totalitarian system and a strong police apparatus. It had many unpleasant or even insane aspects, but at the same time, it is easy to argue that Russia had experienced the highest living standards for the biggest part of its population under Brezhnev. The importance of at least a semblance of safety and public order in most places is also hard to overrate, even if the whole system was rotting rapidly by then.

So right now that whole system of assurances and controls came crashing down, taking many people who had come to rely on it with it, both literally (fatality rates jumped up for a variety of reasons) and figuratively. Only a relative minority managed to thrive in the new environment (my family didn't exactly thrive, but it didn't lose any ground either, so I suppose I can't complain too much). And everything that happened since was basically an attempt to recover from all that. Admittedly things did stabilise a lot by now, but on the other hand, the wealth disparity is not getting any better, and the education system is taking some serious blows due to attempts to make educational facilities pay for themselves. So one of the biggest things happening right now is that free education is being done away with/sharply restricted.

EDIT: Of course there's also more public freedom/less coercion, and little to no functioning ideological controls. The benefits of this are far easier to appreciate when you are part of an intellectual middle class though, I'd imagine, and even then they might be rather limited in practice.

Ah, I see now. So there are elements inside of your family that would prefer the Soviet control as it was before instead of the democratic rule of today?
 
Ah, I see now. So there are elements inside of your family that would prefer the Soviet control as it was before instead of the democratic rule of today?

It's not so much Soviet control vs. democracy as Soviet (static, state socialist, intellectualised) society vs. modern (capitalist, "open") society. Even if both are to some extent formed by their governments. I don't think anyone was too fond of the Soviet government except by comparison. And others just dislike both of them equally.
 
What do you see as the next best step?
 
Being das, he probably has already started the plans to carve out his own little despotate.

I am insulted by your scurrilous accusations. What do you mean, "little"?
 
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