Who do you want to see as the 47th POTUS and why?

[Lexicus]

And even if things go south, it's not going to be that bad.

It's setting up to be worse.

 

[Arwon]

President Xi would be pretty funny

 

[Bridog7]

Bernie of course but that obviously isn't gonna happen. But who I think is gonna win. It's either gonna be Trump, Desantis or Biden

Republicans: Trump if he runs. Desantis if he runs and Trump doesn't run. If you're playing the role of the politician with decorum and is an excellent speaker on the Republican side you have zero chance of winning the nomination no matter how much donor money you get. See what happened to Jebya and everyone else that got steamrolled by Trump. Trump is obviously the favorite, but if he doesn't run, it would no doubt be Desantis if he does as he's made a name for himself during the pandemic in appealing to a pretty large bloc of Republican voters. Obviously lot of people think he's crazy and rightfully so, but they're not the ones who would ever vote for him or Republican.

Democrats: (Shrugs) lol. It's a pretty embaressing field but favorite would have to be Biden because everyone else after him sucks and Bernie isn't gonna run again. Biden will get primaried and if he runs he'll likely win the nomination still.

 

[Rg339]

Little early to make a call. Still years away.

I don’t think Biden wins another general. Large swathes of the Dems have been demoralized during his presidency; they will show their apathy at the voting booth.

Trump will win against either Biden or Harris. I imagine that there will be pressure on Biden not to run again.

If Biden doesn’t run, I’d bet the candidate who emerges isn’t a household name yet. Politics today makes superstars out of candidates thought unlikely.

In fact, I believe an open primary in which the Dem establishment remains uncommitted to supporting any particular candidate offers them the best chance of winning. Allow the charismatic candidates to earn support and build a movement organically: this is how the presidency is won most consistently today. Hell, it’s how you win the senate and the house, too(down ticket effect)

 

[Birdjaguar]

Biden won't be running. He knows he is too old.

 

[Lexicus]

I don’t think Biden wins another general. Large swathes of the Dems have been demoralized during his presidency; they will show their apathy at the voting booth.

The Dems will turn out to prevent Trump from winning again.

 

[Fippy]

Change the not born in America rules, and let Schwarzenegger run for president.
Finally a Republican who peoples like.

But being serious, anyone but Dump would still be acceptable.

 

[Rg339]

The Dems will turn out to prevent Trump from winning again.

The Trump motivation won’t be enough to propel either Biden or Harris to victory. It should, but it won’t. I have a feeling Republicans are increasingly content to use state power to counteract perceived liberal cultural hegemony. Most people don’t know enough about politics or history to have that sense, or to know how quickly those situations go south in a terrible way, though. They won’t show.

Biden? Rightly or wrongly, he’s the top man, he takes disproportionate blame and credit. So far, he has

1. Inflation hurting working class especially hard
2. No major foreign policy success
3. Lack of legislative effectiveness
4. Perceived problems with senility

Harris will shoulder blame for all but #4. It probably goes without saying, but she will face both racism and sexism instead, on top of 1-3.

When voting day comes, many exhausted people won’t wake themselves out of their post-work nap to go to the voting booth for either, even if they hate Trump.

 

[Lexicus]

The Trump motivation won’t be enough to propel either Biden or Harris to victory.

I don't know about victory, I'm just saying I do believe that large numbers of Democrats will vote to keep Trump out of office.

The problem for Republicans is that while Trump will inspire large turnout against him, I don't think any of their other candidates can win the election. They don't have Trump's dark magic.

 

[Rg339]

The problem for Republicans is that while Trump will inspire large turnout against him, I don't think any of their other candidates can win the election. They don't have Trump's dark magic.

Yeah. It’s easy to overestimate Republican strength because of Trump’s personal success over the past half-decade.

If LeBron leaves or gets injured, the rest of the roster soon shows its weaknesses. Trump has a similar effect. His talent for the culture war is significant enough to propel the Republicans at all levels. Without it, they’re left with unpopular policies and a lack of personnel talent to make up for flaws in the scheme.

 

[Lexicus]

Change the not born in America rules, and let Schwarzenegger run for president.
Finally a Republican who peoples like.

But being serious, anyone but Dump would still be acceptable.

Any Republican is unacceptable.

 

[El_Machinae]

Biden won't be running. He knows he is too old.

My current read is that Trump will crush Biden if that's the 2024 roster. People voting in the (R) primaries are going to be one of the most important voter blocs for the upcoming future history.

 

[Hygro]

I don't know about victory, I'm just saying I do believe that large numbers of Democrats will vote to keep Trump out of office.

The problem for Republicans is that while Trump will inspire large turnout against him, I don't think any of their other candidates can win the election. They don't have Trump's dark magic.

This is, in all honesty, the most technical summary of the situation.

 

[Angst]

US needs a new constitution, among other things. That old rag belongs in a museum, it's totally unsuitable for 21st century.

Foreigner's note on this.

I really like the idea of a strong constitution, but in a sense it's just a paper. Denmark's government claims it essentially holds its constitution in high regard as a foundation of government. And we do - but it's at the same time kind of a trash paper and isn't followed at all. It still considers the monarch the executive branch of the government, and doesn't really properly reflect that the monarch is a figure head, and executive branch is done by parliamentarism. And while this foundation is kind of bad, Denmark scores better than the States democratically, the latter having a stronger constitution.

Point isn't to abandon it entirely, but that, like... It took a while for me to understand and appreciate the role of the American consitution. Specifically because I came from somewhere where it wasn't as important, really. What Americans should take from it is not that it's something you shouldn't care about, but that it's a malleable, potentially imperfect paper, and that there's other roads to democracy, in spite of how insane that sounds.

 

[Lohrenswald]

@Thunderfall he will upgrade all branches of the american government to the newest version of xenforo

 

[Kyriakos]

Any Republican is unacceptable.

Including Biden.

I'd like to see AOC, but the system is rigged.

 

[Hygro]

Biden may have been appointed by the spies, but he's pretty good.

 

[Zardnaar]

AoC probably can't win a democratic primary let alone national election.

Anyone under the age of 50 would be interesting.

 

[AmazonQueen]

AoC probably can't win a democratic primary let alone national election.

Anyone under the age of 50 would be interesting.

And yet immedately rules out 1 of the most likely candidates under 50.
Sorry, Zardnaar, Meghan McCain would get even less votes.

 

[Farm Boy]

I suppose if the best ideas we can come up with are AOC and The Constitution Sucks, we're probably the ones that are out of touch.

Welcome to the club.