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Who is the most nationalistic group on the Forums?
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Indians are the true Aryans not the Swedes. Its really patethic how Europeans like the Germans claim that....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryans
Virote_Considon
The Great Dictator
The name "Persia" comes from the word Aryan. I laugh at my National Socialist friend every time he starts blabbering on about "Aryans"
Winner
Diverse in Unity
What's supposed to be so special about them anyway? Just another Indo-European people, not very significant.
Virote_Considon
The Great Dictator
Oops, I made a mistake above, "Iran" means Aryan...
I think the name "Aryan" used to mean something to do with the nobility in old Persian, which the Aryans who settled in India kinda kept, I think. It was also used for that purpose by German Aristocrats in the 19th Century to explain why they're rich and why everyone else is poor- because they're from a mystical unheard of "race", which makes them better and whiter than everyone else, AKA the poorer people. The false "Aryans" would later be applied to all Germanic people, much as the word was originally applied to all Persian people!
I think the name "Aryan" used to mean something to do with the nobility in old Persian, which the Aryans who settled in India kinda kept, I think. It was also used for that purpose by German Aristocrats in the 19th Century to explain why they're rich and why everyone else is poor- because they're from a mystical unheard of "race", which makes them better and whiter than everyone else, AKA the poorer people. The false "Aryans" would later be applied to all Germanic people, much as the word was originally applied to all Persian people!
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
i have just one word for you: heartless.
you can prioritize, but you still have to feel something. these people are suffering. sure they did it, but they are still suffering, and they are still people. compassion means to feel for all without "prioritizing" or "selection", because then, it just means you aren't that much different than rascists or those kinda selective people (though much better, of course). people are people.
i was especially shocked at your earlier statement of saying "good riddance" to your own child. if you are a parent, you aren't one.
i have nothing more to say.
cybrxkhan
jeps
Arcadefire
Aryan is an English language word derived from Sanskrit and Avestan ārya- meaning "noble".
So that makes sense.
Also, Israel is probably the LEAST nationalistic group on the forums.
So that makes sense.
Also, Israel is probably the LEAST nationalistic group on the forums.
skallben
Diplomat
I have a couple of other scenarios for you.
1. 17-yrs old Sarah have been raped by her father since she was 9 and have suffered severe depressions and tried to kill herself several times allready. During a drunk night, a not-so-thoughtful "friend" of hers says she got something to cure her pains and introduce her to heroin.
2. Small Office Inc. CEO John works day and night to be able help his relatives who are stuck in <Insert poor country here> when one day his wife tells him that "You are never home and I will take the children and leave you". Emotionally unstable after the separation, the wife drives recklessly and takes the children with her into a severe carcrash that kills the family, leaving John alone with his work. After slowly deteriorating John's Office goes bankrupt and during a wet night at the bar with his 70s friend Carl they decide to leave to Carl's place. Carl offers the obscenely drunk John a smoke, "it's like weed man, just a 'lil different".
I have myself experimented a bit with drugs during younger days and ultimately I came to the same conclusion as a lot of other peoples, this isnt my thing. I know of way more people who tried stuff out than of people who got stuck in drug abuse. Those who became addicts almost allways came from difficult and problematical social circumstances. Abusive parents, no family, growing up in problematic neighborhoods etc. Your statements are amongst the most cynical I have ever heard.
About priorities, a large-scale war on the other side of the world seems to be a huge waste of resources when you have social issues a few blocks away. U.S. budget consists of 40% total spending to the army. Let me quote:
"SIPRI also comments on the increasing concentration of military expenditure, i.e. that a small number of countries spend the largest sums:
* The 15 countries with the highest spending account for 84 per cent of the total;
* The USA is responsible for 48 per cent of the world total, distantly followed by the UK, France, Japan and China with 45 per cent each."
Do you have any idea how much education, food and infrastructure you can contribute with that amount of resources?
But of course, there is no profit where there is no oil, is it?
Ultimately it is obvious that interfering with things that happen on the other side of the globe is more important than helping your neighbors, be that in America, North or South. And to what use?
Saddam was real nasty dictator but there was/is worse. Present-day Iraq, the average person is less safe than they were. Exception would be if you were in some kind of resistance or political organization opposing Saddam. Loads of people are dying from starvation due to enviromental issues in Africa. Now with these facts, what would benefit humanity the most?
The bombs and the damn Abrams tanks???
Go distribute their worth in food to the starving people I say.
Virote_Considon
The Great Dictator
1. That would not be her fault, it would be her father and "friends" fault. She should be one of those "protected".
2. If it's "like weed", then he should not be smoking it, should he?
2. If it's "like weed", then he should not be smoking it, should he?
ArneHD
Just a little bit mad
I think Indians are the most nationalistic group on the forums (per capita), closely followed by the Americans (per capita).
skallben
Diplomat
Of course, but if you class every heroin abusers as simple junkies that deserve death, then few people except her closest would know the truth behind her drug abuse.
You missed the point. He just lost his family, career, is piss drunk and a "friend" is handing him a joint...It's ofc against the law to smoke in most countries but most people know it's a "light" drug. That example was pretty much to show how people are introduced drugs when they are in their weakest states. Alcohol is where it starts, trust me - when you are really drunk is when your willpower is weak and alot heavy drinkers/light drug users try dangerous drugs.
Remember, those examples were replies to Peng Qi's statements on drug abusers.
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
Compassion, like justice, is blind. Or at least ideally, it should be.
Does it make a difference if someone is doing it to themselves or not? Well, yes, of course. But they are still suffering.
So you may not care about other people in the world. But ff your own mother became a drug addict for whatever reason, and died, would you say, "I don't care, because she did it to herself."? If you would, then you are probably the second-most cynical, misanthropic, jerk I had ever met in my life.
Does it make a difference if someone is doing it to themselves or not? Well, yes, of course. But they are still suffering.
So you may not care about other people in the world. But ff your own mother became a drug addict for whatever reason, and died, would you say, "I don't care, because she did it to herself."? If you would, then you are probably the second-most cynical, misanthropic, jerk I had ever met in my life.
Peng Qi
Emperor
In every scenario, the person made a conscious choice to destroy themselves. That's the line I draw. I'd help any and all of them up until that decision, but once they made it I would spend time on other people unless they showed some real, strong desire to actually fix their problems on their own.
As for the United States military? If it didn't exist, you'd all be beholden to every petty thug and dictator in the entire world. It's pretty much us, Russia, and China keeping the world in one piece. Would you rather trust it to them and their authoritarianism, or us and our generally libertine attitude?
Mirc
Not mIRC!!!
Poland, with the US as a close second. Serbians here seem to be pretty nationalistic too. 
Oh and I'm offended that you didn't include my great awesome fantastic superb country in the poll.
Oh and I'm offended that you didn't include my great awesome fantastic superb country in the poll.
Spoiler :
UK- northerners or southerners, may as well be seperate nationalities.
proof- http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=166570&highlight=North/south+Divide
proof- http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=166570&highlight=North/south+Divide
BirraImperial
Pura Vida!
Its clear that our American fellow posters are the most nationalistic group in CFC. I'm quite surprised Poland is winning, well maybe its because of the thousands of "Why is not Poland in CivIV" threads.
Nationalism isn't necessarily a bad thing, we all need a little in order to appreciate our nations, the problem is when this nationalism blinds us to the point of becoming fanatics.
Nationalism isn't necessarily a bad thing, we all need a little in order to appreciate our nations, the problem is when this nationalism blinds us to the point of becoming fanatics.
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
so what if your own mother has made a conscious decision to destroy herself. would you still care, or not?
Peng Qi
Emperor
I don't see why sharing some gene sequences with someone means I should feel any differently about them. It would depend on how well my mother had taken care of me up until that point. It's often the case that mothers who turn to drugs generally weren't so great before they did. I'd rather not discuss my mother's real-life attributes on a forum, but if she had taken good care of me, I'd return the favor inasmuch if she wanted help I'd help her. If she had taken bad care of me, then I wouldn't care.
GoodEnoughForMe
n.m.s.s.
It's a tie between communist Russia and India.
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
i don't have much of any reply to that.
my original point was, you don't need to fly half-way around the world to help people, but just to feel sorry that they suffer, and that one should appreciate what one has.
how selfish. you may have been brought into this world by your mother, even grudgingly, horribly, or what not, but she still gave you life. its not gene sequences. its because she gave you life, no matter how horribly.
otherwise, i don't have anything else to say.
goodbye.
cybrxkhan
