Will technology accomplish what the GOP could not?

[Ziggy Stardust]

I laughed at the republicans at the hearing.

 

[DinoDoc]

She was pretty clearly handed that for this gotcha picture.

Well duh.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Day 43 of HealthCare.gov going live!

Only 18 days until the December 1st deadline to get it fixed or people begin to panic.


First, concern about security is starting to surface.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_1...-limitless-security-risks-for-healthcare.gov/

Henry Chao, HealthCare.gov's chief project manager at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), gave nine hours of closed-door testimony to the House Oversight Committee in advance of this week's hearing. In excerpts CBS News has obtained, Chao was asked about a memo that outlined important security risks discovered in the insurance system.

Chao said he was unaware of a Sept. 3 government memo written by another senior official at CMS. It found two high-risk issues, which are redacted for security reasons. The memo said "the threat and risk potential (to the system) is limitless." The memo shows CMS gave deadlines of mid-2014 and early 2015 to address them.

But Chao testified he'd been told the opposite.

"What I recall is what the team told me, is that there were no high findings," he said.

Chao testified security gaps could lead to identity theft, unauthorized access and misrouted data.

According to federal guidelines, high risk means "the vulnerability could be expected to have a severe or catastrophic adverse affect on organizational operations ... assets or individuals."

Threat and risk potential is limitless?
Wait, who signed off that the security for the website was ok?
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/10/30/2013-90-27.cms.memo.signed.by.tavenner.pdf?hpt=hp_t1

Marilyn Tavenner signed a 6 month Temporary Authority to Operate Certificate because the Security Control Assessment wasn't completed yet.



Man I love the federal government.
They can sign off that the website is fully secure 6 months after launching it!



And who was the author of the memo that pointed out the 2 huge security flaws identified so far with limitless risk?
Tony Tenkle, the guy who is now resigning.
http://newsbusters.org/node/68495
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162...urity-official-didnt-sign-off-on-site-launch/

Tony Trenkle, the Obamacare official in charge of HealthCare.gov security efforts announced his resignation Wednesday, effective next week.

HealthCare.gov never received top-to-bottom security test

CBS News has learned that Trenkle, the Chief Information Officer for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), was originally supposed to sign off on security for the glitch-ridden website before its Oct. 1 launch, but didn't. Instead, the authorization on September 27 was given by Trenkle's boss, CMS administrator Marilyn Tavenner.

As CBS News reported Monday, security assessments fell behind and the website never had the required top-to-bottom tests.

Trenkle and two other CMS officials, including Chief Operating Officer Michelle Snyder, signed an unusual "risk acknowledgement" saying that the agency's mitigation plan for rigorous monitoring and ongoing tests did "not reduce the (security) risk to the ... system itself going into operation on October 1, 2013."...

...Wednesday, an HHS spokesman said that the reason Tavenner, not Trenkle, signed the security authorization is because HealthCare.gov is "a high-profile project and CMS felt it warranted having the administrator sign the authority to operate memo." HHS also says there is an aggressive risk mitigation plan in effect, "the privacy and security of consumers personal information is a top priority for us" and personal information is "protected by stringent security standards."

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

You need to broaden your horizons

 

[Kaitzilla]

You need to broaden your horizons

No Wai!

I'm buying the straight-to-dvd movie once they make all of this into one.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Just a little heavy on the political glee, a little light on the social awareness of the effects for my taste.

To each their own I guess

 

[hobbsyoyo]

I still haven't signed up for Obamacare yet and one of the main reasons is the website issues. Multiply that by however many millions of uninsured young Americans are skipping the program for similar reasons and that leaves Obamacare in serious trouble. They already failed to meet my perception of 'affordability' from the get-go and that's only going to get worse if more young people like myself don't sign up.

The whole thing is severly dissapointing.

 

[DinoDoc]

Troubled HealthCare.gov unlikely to work fully by end of November

Software problems with the federal online health insurance marketplace, especially in handling high volumes, are proving so stubborn that the system is unlikely to work fully by the end of the month as the White House has promised, according to an official with knowledge of the project.

...

Awesome.

This is the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Yeah! People suffering! Government not working efficiently!

AWESOMESAUCE​

 

[DinoDoc]

I can't help it. I'm enjoying seeing a flawed policy crash and burn right out of the gate.

CNN’s Dana Bash: Friday ‘De Facto Deadline’ Before Dems ‘Defy’ Obama, Back GOP’s Obamacare Fixes

 

[Kaitzilla]

Could have delayed the whole thing by 1 year, but that's obstructionist traitorous terrorism.

Any and all glee at this point is purely "told you so" because the feds are displaying their usual competence.

March 21st 2010 to October 1 2013 is 3 years, 6 months, 10 days.
December 7, 1941 to May 8, 1945 is 3 years, 5 months, 1 day.


What could anyone possibly do at this point to fix this mess?

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Hell yeah what is bad for Obama is great for everyone. Bring it down! Woohoo

Also

->It took longer to defeat the Nazis than to get healthcare.gov working

->The Nazis had governmenet healthcare

->Obama is a nazi and the ACA is the Final Solution in disguise

 

[peter grimes]

That's a totally false comparison, and I suspect you know that.

EDIT: ninja'd by Hobbs.

 

[DinoDoc]

That's a totally false comparison, and I suspect you know that.

We'll have developed nuclear weapons in less time than it has taken to develop a working website at this rate.

 

[El_Machinae]

I'll again recommend universal coverage. It'd have been vastly easier.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Hells yeah the effing slobs, parasites and wealfare queens have brought this nation down. Obama is the handout-in-chief and should be stopped before he goes and gives away all our liberties to the undesirables...

...such as the liberty of life without worry of bankruptcy from faulty genes.


Of course faulty genes are just a convenient excuse for the do-nothings to live off the public dime. They should just boostrap themselves into a new DNA sequence

And I am telling you Obama is a nazi nuslim mao mao insurgent plant so of course the website is a disaster

 

[hobbsyoyo]

I'll again recommend universal coverage. It'd have been vastly easier.

No <snip> sherlock.


Tell us exactly how you would pass that through the House of Teahadists?

<i am angry with teahadists not you>

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[El_Machinae]

Tell us exactly how you would pass that through the House of Teahadists?

I don't think it can be done now. You needed to participate in marches pre-2008. And certainly pre-2016. Like actual marches.

If I were an American, I'd start a 'UHC running club', make T-shirts, and get those shirts on the streets regularly. Truly, this is what I'd do.

 

[peter grimes]

My union and many others support UHC. There were banners in the Labor Day parade.

Which is probably why there's not much visibility.

 

[DinoDoc]

I'll again recommend universal coverage. It'd have been vastly easier.

Possibly. But if this does crash and burn as it seems to be in the process of doing at this point, do you foresee a groundswell of support for giving the government yet more control over this area?