Would you spank your child?

[warpus]

If they don't clean up their mess from dinner they get no breakfast I guess. I except they will comply. I'll cross than bridge when I come to it.

So let me get this straight, you refuse to spank your kids, but you are perfectly willing to refuse to feed them in the morning, the most important meal of the day?

You can't not feed your kids, dude. That would be abuse.

 

[Narz]

NO BREAKFAST! What kind of monster are you?!

Seriously, all you need is your kid saying he's hungry in school and the teacher calling CPS on you.

Um, I suspect 10-60% of kids don't eat breakfast (depending on the school).

Like I said, I expect the incident wouldn't happen in the first place, if I did I'm sure the kid would realize he/she did wrong & come clean up the mess. If not, how would I force him/her? I really don't know, maybe not let them eat with the family until the cleaned it. I really don't envision such a scenario even occurring but, like, I said, I'll try to bump this years down the line & share my successful (and unsuccessful) good-behavior molding techniques.

So let me get this straight, you refuse to spank your kids, but you are perfectly willing to refuse to feed them in the morning, the most important meal of the day?

You can't not feed your kids, dude. That would be abuse.

Breakfast isn't the more important meal of the day. That's breakfast cereal propaganda. both sides of said issue* I haven't eaten breakfast in years. A kid missing a meal isn't abuse. Most kids I see these days could use to miss a meal or two.

Like I said, it was just an off the cuff response to a hypothetical scenario. I probably would just have him eat alone until he could handle himself eating with the family. As I said, I really don't envision such a scenario even occurring.

*

"No clear evidence shows that the skipping of breakfast or lunch (or both) is unhealthy, and animal data suggest quite the opposite," wrote Mattson, possibly the ultimate anti-breakfast iconoclast, last year in the medical journal the Lancet. Advice to eat smaller and more frequent meals, he wrote, "is given despite the lack of clear scientific evidence to justify it."

Mattson admits that he hasn't proven his case yet. His studies are still preliminary.

 

[Hygro]

I think you people need to start reading books on parenting and child development and stop relying on the Bible or "creative" alternatives that are just as bad.

 

[bigdog5994]

Narz for christ sake

http://www.nutraingredients.com/Research/Missing-breakfast-is-bad-for-your-health
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-193258/Missing-breakfast-bad-kids.html
http://www.weightladder.com/4-ways-to-avoid-missing-breakfast/
http://www.pt-nutrition.com/info_articles_missingbreakfast.php

you dont take away meals as punishment you take away other non important stuff like TV. Your really scaring me

 

[Akka]

Seriously, saying that a spank is abuse, but depriving a children of food is a valid method...

I'm at a loss of words. That's serious logical breakdown here.

 

[cardgame]

Seriously, saying that a spank is abuse, but depriving a children of food is a valid method...

I'm at a loss of words. That's serious logical breakdown here.

I am disappointed in you, Narz.

 

[nonconformist]

Yer, pretty much.....a quick smack is abuse, but regularly depriving them of nutrients?

 

[Hygro]

Alright folk, just because Narz has suggested a bad form of punishment, let's remember that that in no way justifies violent punishment.

 

[Narz]

Narz for christ sake

http://www.nutraingredients.com/Research/Missing-breakfast-is-bad-for-your-health

That study says kids who skip a meal (in this case the first one) are more likely to be vitamin-deficient. Duh. That doesn't imply skipping breakfast is inherently bad.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-193258/Missing-breakfast-bad-kids.html

Study sponsored by "Cereal Partners UK"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-193258/Missing-breakfast-bad-kids.html#ixzz0OOWHMnMO

More? That's the same one again.

http://www.weightladder.com/4-ways-to-avoid-missing-breakfast/

"We all know that breakfast is the most important meal of the day,"

Appeal to social proof.

http://www.pt-nutrition.com/info_articles_missingbreakfast.php

All those claims based on a study of 10 women. Come on.

Your really scaring me

Cut out the drama. If a kid throws their food on the floor they ain't getting another plate. That's not abuse. I was just asked if they still didn't clean it up by morning what would I do. In retrospect I probably would choose a different path from there so lets just leave it at that instead of taking it further, shall we.

Yer, pretty much.....a quick smack is abuse, but regularly depriving them of nutrients?

Regularly? Really NC, if you can't bother reading what people write please don't post.

 

[Elrohir]

Well, to be fair, making a kid miss one meal isn't a big deal, and certainly isn't abuse. (Was no one here ever "sent to bed without supper"? Or at least heard the phrase?) Not giving them breakfast at all is quite a different story. But I don't think that's what Narz was suggesting. (Or perhaps it was?)

I'm not saying taking away meals is the best punishment, and certainly shouldn't occur on a regular basis - like spanking, this sort of punishment should stop WAY before any actual physical harm - but a single case isn't something to freak out about.

 

[Azale]

I'm not saying taking away meals is the best punishment, and certainly shouldn't occur on a regular basis - like spanking, this sort of punishment should stop WAY before any actual physical harm - but a single case isn't something to freak out about.

This should be basic common sense, but it's more fun to exaggerate.

"Oh time out? SO YOU WANT TO LOCK YOUR CHILD IN THE BASEMENT FOR 20 YEARS? WHAT IS THIS, AUSTRIA?"

 

[warpus]

Breakfast isn't the more important meal of the day. That's breakfast cereal propaganda. both sides of said issue* I haven't eaten breakfast in years. A kid missing a meal isn't abuse. Most kids I see these days could use to miss a meal or two.

Like I said, it was just an off the cuff response to a hypothetical scenario. I probably would just have him eat alone until he could handle himself eating with the family. As I said, I really don't envision such a scenario even occurring.

That breakfast might be a civilization-wide hoax designed to make us eat cereal in the morning is beside the point.

 

[Narz]

This should be basic common sense, but it's more fun to exaggerate.

I've noticed (see posts above mine).

 

[Hygro]

This should be basic common sense, but it's more fun to exaggerate.

"Oh time out? SO YOU WANT TO LOCK YOUR CHILD IN THE BASEMENT FOR 20 YEARS? WHAT IS THIS, AUSTRIA?"

This. Is. AUSTRIA!

 

[nonconformist]

Regularly? Really NC, if you can't bother reading what people write please don't post.

Goddamnit don't make me come over there

 

[Zebra 9]

A ridiculous jump (because my parents didn't hit me I took back a keyboard for my computer 10 years later).

I'm confused by the 10 years later bit? I had understood it as your parents took the keyboard, left the house, you went and got it, used it, and replaced it before they got home.

If they don't clean up their mess from dinner they get no breakfast I guess. I except they will comply. I'll cross than bridge when I come to it.

Personally I'd send them to bed, no lights, computers, cellphones, etc. Dinner is usually at like 6 so they would miss out on a lot of the family stuff. It would also give them time to think about their actions.

Now just out of curiosity what would you do if they repeated the action a second time and a third time?

I'd prolly use the same method if it happened a second time. A spankin' the third time.

Hope you don't think I'm being pushy, I'm just trying to better understand how you feel this stuff should be handled. You seem to think that one punishment is sufficient, most of us don't feel that is an entirely rational position. For some kids it works, others are more stubborn is my personal belief.

 

[Narz]

I'm confused by the 10 years later bit? I had understood it as your parents took the keyboard, left the house, you went and got it, used it, and replaced it before they got home.

I was old enough to not be a victim to getting hit at that age. If my mom told me she was going to spank me at that age I just would've laughed.

Now just out of curiosity what would you do if they repeated the action a second time and a third time?

Dunno & I'm done with hypotheticals for this thread.

I'd prolly use the same method if it happened a second time. A spankin' the third time.

Hope you don't think I'm being pushy, I'm just trying to better understand how you feel this stuff should be handled. You seem to think that one punishment is sufficient, most of us don't feel that is an entirely rational position. For some kids it works, others are more stubborn is my personal belief.

I'm pretty stubborn so I'm sure any offspring of mine will be pretty willful too. It'll be interesting that's for sure!

 

[Zebra 9]

Ok, no problem.
Stubbornness does seem to be genetic, I can trace it for four generations. lol

 

[thekaje]

This thread has once again taken a turn for the hilarious.

 

[Grisu]

Yeah, I think it'd be best to move away from either of those two straw-men, the first being that spankers assault their kids and the second being that non-spankers exercise no real discipline at all. People have said this earlier in the thread, too, and it's worth repeating.

true, true. though many don't seem to be listening