Your First Time

[squadbroken]

After reading threads like this and hearing a lot of reactions like this, I was actually surprised by just how little recoil there was. But I was using a .22 rifle (I think). I'd like to give a go at something with a little more kick.

In my case it was a .30-06. I thought I was too damn cool to try the dinky .22 first.

 

[mitsho]

Really anticlimatic,*

after having had to learn the 4 security sayings by heart, sat through many theory lessons on the gun and having had to dissasemble and assemble the gun many times, you stand there, you pull the trigger and there's a hole in the target... And then you have the clean the d.. thing and carry it with you all the time for the rest of the service. And now I need to go shoot once every year, nearly forget it all the time and I'm growing worse every year but so far got through the tests

I really don't get the fascination with guns, really. It's especially funny with handguns and movies, no way they would hit anything the way they shoot...

(*you know, like having sex with someone very good looking who's very bad in bed, or no, like having sex the first time in general that can be dissapointing)

 

[Quackers]

I'm sorry. We can't all be enthralled at the idea of learning how to kill somone else.

You mean shooting a gun? Not actually killing someone.

 

[Bugfatty300]

Seems like people don't enjoy shooting as much while in a formal training environment. Of course that's always going to be boring no matter what you're doing.

They should try doing it in more relaxed tongue-in-cheek place. It'll probably be a little funner then.


Link to video.

 

[downtown]

I think I fired my first .22 in middle school on a Boy Scout activity. I shot targets a few other times other times and never really got into it, mostly on account of being a miserable shot. Then I graduated high school, moved to big cities, and kind of forgot about shooting.

I think if/when I move back to the country, I could get into it again. My mom is REALLY REALLY against guns, so that prob didn't help growing up.

 

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

I think if/when I move back to the country, I could get into it again. My mom is REALLY REALLY against guns, so that prob didn't help growing up.

I always knew it would be safe to assume that Mother Downtown would rock aswell.

 

[mitsho]

They should try doing it in more relaxed tongue-in-cheek place. It'll probably be a little funner then.

But then I see how some people who had training as well handle their guns and then I would never ever put them into the hands of a child, nevermind I would use them in a 'relaxed' athmosphere (I wouldn't count hunts as that). That video you posted seems seriously dangerous. Is there a alcohol ban on such festivals? (obviously not...)

I know I'm overstating it here, but given the dangers and the fact, that I personally don't see the fun in it, I wouldn't go there (though I do agree, that with the right supervision, they're not that dangerous and thus it shouldn't be a problem. Nevertheless, there are stupid people, and again, I can list up many more fun things to do for myself).

 

[aronnax]

So you're applying abstract concepts such as original design and intent to objects rather than approaching the object for what it is; an inanimate object. That's human nature we all possess I suppose, though I still don't understand some things. It's hard for me to put myself in the shoes of someone who is afraid of or hates guns. I suspect the difference between you and me is mostly cultural and upbringing in regards to guns. I don't think we diverge much in regards to cars.

I would think that as human beings we imbue our own character into the actions we take. And we design and build something, it is not inanimate (in the sense of its meaning as oppose to breathing, moving and thinking) but is full of our own human intentions as well. We make household appliances with the intention of comfort, we make tools in the intention of easing our lives. But when we make guns and weapons for the intention of injuring or killing others, that intention is 'within' the gun too. And we're talking about something that was made to kill, not has a side function of being able to kill, like scissors or candlesticks.

But I guess this is more a subjective/cultural disagreement as oppose to a technical one or moral one.

I can see how you might feel that way, but shooting to learn how to shoot people is a different game from shooting for recreation or for hunting or for recreational hunting.

Well recreational shooting or for hunting purposes is fine and all and I don't think I'll have a problem picking up a gun if the intention was for things like that. But in my circumstance, it was revolver (thus not a hunting or shooting gun) designed for the sole purpose of being used by a Police Force to kill or injure.

I know guns aren't 'evil' and of course can be and for the vast majority of instances, used to protect, to save and to defend.

But it is still a horrifying feeling to know that you are learning on purpose to kill a man.

On a side note, given your frequent criticism of your country's government, I'm surprised you joined the police force. Or is conscription mandatory there?

Conscription is mandatory for all Singaporites.

As Joecoolyo said, its conscription for a period of twenty-two to twenty-four months. Though I must add that the vast majority of the conscripted (which they insist of terming as enlisted, to make it sound less forced) end up in the army.

You mean shooting a gun? Not actually killing someone.

Given that I was learning to shoot a gun to kill, yes, it is a grim feeling to be forced to be the decider of someone's mortality.

 

[Bugfatty300]

But then I see how some people who had training as well handle their guns and then I would never ever put them into the hands of a child, nevermind I would use them in a 'relaxed' athmosphere (I wouldn't count hunts as that). That video you posted seems seriously dangerous. Is there a alcohol ban on such festivals? (obviously not...)

I know I'm overstating it here, but given the dangers and the fact, that I personally don't see the fun in it, I wouldn't go there (though I do agree, that with the right supervision, they're not that dangerous and thus it shouldn't be a problem. Nevertheless, there are stupid people, and again, I can list up many more fun things to do for myself).

Actually, it was meant to be an exaggeration.

Though to be fair, as far as I know there's only been one fatal accident on that range which happened back in the 90s.

 

[Farm Boy]

People at a firing range are probably a lot more relaxed then a training session yes, and they might set up insane events like the machine gun one. But if you've ever been around range-folk, you would be surprised how fast they tend to shut everything down if somebody steps outside of the safety procedures. They're playing, but they don't want people killed. I'd be amazed if they let drunk people anywhere near that firing line.

 

[GenMarshall]

Even though I am knowlgeable about em (telling apart the different generations of the US M16s), I never fired a live gun.

 

[Bugfatty300]

People at a firing range are probably a lot more relaxed then a training session yes, and they might set up insane events like the machine gun one. But if you've ever been around range-folk, you would be surprised how fast they tend to shut everything down if somebody steps outside of the safety procedures. They're playing, but they don't want people killed. I'd be amazed if they let drunk people anywhere near that firing line.

At one of the few gun shows I've attended a guy was escorted out by police because a couple of vendors smelled alcohol on his breath.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

People at a firing range are probably a lot more relaxed then a training session yes, and they might set up insane events like the machine gun one. But if you've ever been around range-folk, you would be surprised how fast they tend to shut everything down if somebody steps outside of the safety procedures. They're playing, but they don't want people killed. I'd be amazed if they let drunk people anywhere near that firing line.

The one truly gun crazy friend I have is extremely serious about safety. Before he would let me touch his glock he walked me through this whole safety lecture on the do's and dont's and then repeated it when we were at the range (national park).

It was very cool and respectable.

 

[AdamCrock]

My first gun was a water toy and I aim to keep it that way since I don't really like guns becouse the thing with a gun is that it makes people so really d*mn impolite ! I'll be like McGuyver who hated them too

 

[Bugfatty300]

My first gun was a water toy and I aim to keep it that way since I don't really like guns becouse the thing with a gun is that it makes people so really d*mn impolite ! I'll be like McGuyver who hated them too

Or Dog the Bounty Hunter, who actually got an accommodation from Hawaii for not carrying a gun even though he's a prohibited by law from even touching one.

 

[Mosher]

They're no fun. Little noise, no recoil, little power- they lack any of the things that make shooting firearms fun.

lol


.22 rimfire can kill a man easily. I love my .22.

My first time was with my little .22, until I eventually moved up to my 20G and skeet. Now I've fallen in love with my Mosin-Nagant; it's no wonder the Russians used it for nearly 100 years.

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

When I read the thread title, I immediately hoped it to be about losing your virginity.

Nope. Gun stuff instead.

On topic, I only fired a gun once, for a boy scout activity, IIRC. Dunno the kind, as I'm utterly gun-illiterate, but it was a rifle, and when I fired it, I got a bloody lip from the recoil, and that was that. Never touched another gun since.

 

[cardgame]

When I read the thread title, I immediately hoped it to be about losing your virginity.

You're welcome to make said thread, unless...

 

[AdamCrock]

Loosing virginity with a woman is far better than loosing virginity with a gun (Womans can probably loose "both" of their virginities with just the gun j/k - if You're women please don't be offended ). Eaither way womens are always better option with only one exception: "You should always choose "one more turn" with Civ rather than "one more turn" with a woman"

Now every woman will probably hate me

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

You're welcome to make said thread, unless...

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