2020 Election Thread!!!!!!!!!

[Sommerswerd]

I think Hillary will run again. She really, really, really wants to be POTUS, she came close to getting the nomination in 2008, she got farther in 2016 and won the popular vote... in other words, she did better this time than last time, so why wouldn't she run again? She's not going to stop running until she either does worse, or dies... whichever comes first.

 

[tetley]

Continuing to run knowing the race is fixed against you is a multimillion-dollar exercise in futility.

 

[onejayhawk]

I think Hillary will run again. She really, really, really wants to be POTUS, she came close to getting the nomination in 2008, she got farther in 2016 and won the popular vote... in other words, she did better this time than last time, so why wouldn't she run again? She's not going to stop running until she either does worse, or dies... whichever comes first.

I doubt her health allows it. It was very dicey this year and the lack of stamina probably lost the election as much as more publicised reasons.

Continuing to run knowing the race is fixed against you is a multimillion-dollar exercise in futility.

Or Donald Trump.

J

 

[Azem.Ocram]

Nothing in this post is even remotely close to being accurate.

Please correct me line by line. On all media channels which cover Trump, his biggest talking points are border wall with Mexico and bringing manufacturing back to the USA. Voter turnout this year was lower than in 2008. The winner lost the votes by a landside but managed to lie to a few key states to win by a quirk in the electoral system. China is fixing its currency by buying foreign government bonds and going on a construction boom. I can provide sources. You remind me of a man who falls asleep in front of Fox News; he constantly regurgitates the talking points of conservative propaganda.

So to sum your guys' position: The candidate you wanted didn't win, therefore democracy and rule of law MUST be dead in the US. Also, if Trump isn't immediately removed from office upon being sworn in, then it must also mean rule of law and democracy MUST be dead.

Nice to see you two are remaining level-headed and grounded in reality...

Trump lost the popular and already committed impeachable offenses. Senators and Representatives have been impeached for committing less severe things before taking the oath of office.

 

[tetley]

Voter turnout this year was lower than in 2008.

Voter turnout was not lower. Voter suppression was higher.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

MC Ride 2020

Could very well be.. Consider that Trump had meme magic on his side for this election and clearly MC Ride has more meme potential than Jay Z or even Yeezy, the top contenders for Democratic candidates in 2020. Me personally I will keep my hopes up for Lil Ugly Mane as Dem. candidate, but I doubt he'll get past the primaries.

 

[Kyriakos]

I think Hillary will run again. She really, really, really wants to be POTUS, she came close to getting the nomination in 2008, she got farther in 2016 and won the popular vote... in other words, she did better this time than last time, so why wouldn't she run again? She's not going to stop running until she either does worse, or dies... whichever comes first.

I do hope you don't think she should run. It is a farce, and supporting her already cost your country this election.

Besides, Hillary isn't Stannis. She is more like Walder Frey.

 

[onejayhawk]

Please correct me line by line. On all media channels which cover Trump, his biggest talking points are border wall with Mexico and bringing manufacturing back to the USA. Voter turnout this year was lower than in 2008. The winner lost the votes by a landside but managed to lie to a few key states to win by a quirk in the electoral system. China is fixing its currency by buying foreign government bonds and going on a construction boom. I can provide sources. You remind me of a man who falls asleep in front of Fox News; he constantly regurgitates the talking points of conservative propaganda.

Trump lost the popular and already committed impeachable offenses. Senators and Representatives have been impeached for committing less severe things before taking the oath of office.

Please do. His stance is more credible absent evidence. Also, list the impeachable offenses.

Funny that you mention reciting the party line. This seems to be straight out of KOS comments.

J

 

[tetley]

Ironic how conservatives are perfectly fine with Russia now. Those were the same McCarthy's witch-hunting all the commie Russian sympathizers not too long ago. As long as the terroristic crime is in their favor, I guess.

 

[Gucumatz]

My early guess has to be Booker. Relatively charismatic enough and depending on how he plays his cards he could put quite the striking difference between himself and Trump

 

[onejayhawk]

Ironic how conservatives are perfectly fine with Russia now. Those were the same McCarthy's witch-hunting all the commie Russian sympathizers not too long ago. As long as the terroristic crime is in their favor, I guess.

I get that the Conservatives are willing to crow a little when Putin slaps the Democrats around but that's a long way from everything being jake. Putin is still a tyrant and a bully. Nixon showed us how to deal with such people in the 1970s. For some reason, not everyone is willing to learn from detente.

J

 

[Azem.Ocram]

Seeing as no one corrected me line by line, I will wait to provide sources but The Donald has committed sexual assault (possibly rape, there have been allegations), defamation (read his tweets, he's also being sued), fraud (Trump Foundation, Trump University, possibly bankruptcy fraud), tax evasion, and human rights violations by proxy in the UAE. There are allegations of racketeering and bribery but I doubt there's proof so those are irrelevent.

 

[onejayhawk]

Seeing as no one corrected me line by line, I will wait to provide sources but The Donald has committed sexual assault (possibly rape, there have been allegations), defamation (read his tweets, he's also being sued), fraud (Trump Foundation, Trump University, possibly bankruptcy fraud), tax evasion, and human rights violations by proxy in the UAE. There are allegations of racketeering and bribery but I doubt there's proof so those are irrelevent.

Every is still waiting for the documentation you offered. If it's on the level of suing over tweets, you may wait a while.

J

 

[Sommerswerd]

I do hope you don't think she should run. It is a farce, and supporting her already cost your country this election.

Besides, Hillary isn't Stannis. She is more like Walder Frey.

Well I thought, and said that Hillary should have picked Bernie for VP, but alas they didn't listen to my advice... So what I think should happen is obviously irrelevant...

 

[onejayhawk]

There is an article posted a page or two back. The preferred Democratic candidate was the option labeled "Someone Else".

J

 

[Leifmk]

There is an article posted a page or two back. The preferred Democratic candidate was the option labeled "Someone Else".

J

Yah. Back in 2004, Obama was barely on the map yet, some people were saying he might make a fine Presidential candidate a bit further down the road, few expected him to run already next time around.

 

[Leifmk]

I'm pretty sure there won't be a 2020 election, and I'm not even joking. The Trump clan is already so corrupt that impeachment is just a matter of time and the next election will be in 2018.

Pretty sure they don't even have a mechanism that would allow that. Presidential elections are every four years, period. The Americans are pretty strict about observing the formal structures of their government. If a sitting President is removed for whatever reason, it goes to the VP, and then after that (in case something were to happen to take out several key individuals at once or something) they have a long long succession list of various government officials. In case one of those people had to take over he or she would probably be expected to act as something of a caretaker President and not do anything too radical before the next election.

 

[Sommerswerd]

This seemed like the most relevant place to put this... Apparently despite FOX News offering her $100 Million to stay, Megyn Kelly accepted a lower offer from NBC to leave FOX News.

 

[Azem.Ocram]

Pretty sure they don't even have a mechanism that would allow that. Presidential elections are every four years, period. The Americans are pretty strict about observing the formal structures of their government. If a sitting President is removed for whatever reason, it goes to the VP, and then after that (in case something were to happen to take out several key individuals at once or something) they have a long long succession list of various government officials. In case one of those people had to take over he or she would probably be expected to act as something of a caretaker President and not do anything too radical before the next election.

If the president is impeached or resigns within 2 years of being elected, then a mid-term election will be held. This means a 2018 election is possible. It will mess with the election schedule but nothing about this past election was conventional.

 

[EnglishEdward]

China is fixing its currency by buying foreign government bonds and going on a construction boom. I can provide sources.

Very true, no need to provide sources, we agree; but what of it?