2020 US Election (Part One)

[Lexicus]

Hey, just having some fun, after I was accused of being a racist

I didn't call you a racist, and you know it.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Hey, just having some fun, after I was accused of being a racist

I think he only referred to your comment as "offensive". I think what @Lexicus was referring to as "racist" was the question that was asked of AOC, about supporting Bernie Sanders but he initially forgot to quote me in between his response to you and his response to me, so it looked like it was all one paragraph and he was calling your comment racist.

 

[Lexicus]

I mean, it's fair to say I called his comment racist (because that's what I meant by 'offensive' in that context, or at least, I was saying it is offensive because it is racist) but calling a comment racist is not the same as calling someone a racist.

 

[Kyriakos]

No matter now, I feel vindicated

 

[Timsup2nothin]

No matter now, I feel vindicated

Did Vindicated consent to this groping?

 

[Takhisis]

btw its spelled rasist

 

[Azem.Ocram]

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/rent-control-a-reckoning

Rent control apparently is on average bad for low income renters as well, especially new renters or in more desirable areas. I still will vote for Sanders in the primary and will vote for any democrat over The D'ump but I disagree with a couple of policies that are popular with the left. With typical 20 question, 2-axis political compass tests I tend to align most with green parties and socialists, things are a bit more nuanced on the 9-axis, 200+ question test.

Spoiler :

 

[sophie]

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/rent-control-a-reckoning

Rent control apparently is on average bad for low income renters as well, especially new renters or in more desirable areas. I still will vote for Sanders in the primary and will vote for any democrat over The D'ump but I disagree with a couple of policies that are popular with the left. With typical 20 question, 2-axis political compass tests I tend to align most with green parties and socialists, things are a bit more nuanced on the 9-axis, 200+ question test.

Spoiler :

Rent control per se is bad (although that assertion is disputable if you examine data coming out of, say, Toronto's housing market), but Bernie's proposal isn't just rent control in a highly isolated and localized market. We aren't talking about rent control in specific, politically disenfranchised parts of San Francisco or New York, which is a big part of where the economic analyses of rent control have historically come, but rather, rent control implemented at a national level, and aimed at negating some of the significant parts of why "rent control is bad," namely, a) on the demand side/demand inefficiency side: that the artificially-created market inefficiency drives up demand in the specified neighborhood, and it creates the scenario of the elderly woman who got on rent control when she had a family of four but now they all moved out but she won't downsize for fear of losing her rent-controlled apartment, all of which is negated by the fact that rent-control is applied nationally, so there is less incentive to relocate to a geographic area with better rents, and "old ladies" can freely make practical relocation decisions without fear of losing their rent-controlled housing, and b) that it addresses the lack of private investment in new housing projects through a massive investment in public housing, and it addresses the lack of incentive for landlords to improve their properties by explicitly giving monetary incentives to landlords to materially maintain and improve their properties.

 

[Truthy]

I think it makes perfect sense, for the same reason that Buttigieg is the second choice for a lot of Warren supporters even though they support vastly different policy prescriptions. Maybe I'll do a longer explanation later, but the simple answer is that they are cut from that same Aaron Sorkin-esque Left-Liberal post-ideological cloth, in which politics isn't about Left or Right, and it isn't about principles or values or vision. It's about data and statistics, and the idea that if I simply sit you down and explain the data comprehensively and eloquently enough, you will be unable to bridge any exceptions to the fact that my policy prescription represents the one true, rational, objective, correct answer. It's why they all fetishize "bipartisanship" so much. Politics seen through this lens isn't a pitched battle of fundamentally incompatible ideologies or divergent ethical frameworks, but aesthetic choices which are different only on the superficie, and which rest atop a positivist, empirical, data-driven Base.

Politics, then, isn't a battle of ideology or vision, but one of expertise: who has the best data, and who is the most qualified (and therefore most likely) to evaluate and apply that data "correctly" into pragmatic policy prescriptions. The policy prescriptions, then, between Kamala or Klobuchar, or Buttigieg, or even Warren, become superficial and aesthetic choices. The only question worth asking becomes "who is the most credible?" And the answer to that comes from rattling off line items on a CV: is it Warren, the Law Professor from Harvard, or Buttigieg, who was educated at Harvard and Oxford, speaks 7 languages, and put his data-driven analysis into practice as a mayor who "transformed" (snerk) a languishing Midwestern town, or is it Kamala who made rational, data-driven decisions as Attorney General of California/San Francisco to produce positive economic growth and improved social outcomes.

You know your imagined Fukuyama bro targets are on about uncertainty not certainty, right?

 

[Zardnaar]

They may have caught Baghdadi

 

[Tristan_C]

They may have caught Baghdadi

It was a stretch for the WaPo to make an obituary for him and call him an austere conservative religious scholar.

Conservatives oppose organizations that denigrate women, whether it's WaPo's beloved ISIS, an organization created for the purpose of raping girls, the Mexican cartels that get flesh across the border, or even sports leagues that let men dominate and grab titles meant for women athletes.

 

[Truthy]

Stupid arguments incoming

Why isn't everyone celebrating like when Obama killed OBL?
How can you be happy about the death of another human being ??
"Ding dong the witch is dead!" Does that ring a bell?

 

[Arakhor]

Conservatives oppose organizations that denigrate women

That's, uh, an unorthodox meaning.

 

[Kyriakos]

We interrupt this diversion to bring you this other diversion.

By this point the US is an episode of South Park.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

It was a stretch for the WaPo to make an obituary for him and call him an austere conservative religious scholar.

Conservatives oppose organizations that denigrate women, whether it's WaPo's beloved ISIS, an organization created for the purpose of raping girls, the Mexican cartels that get flesh across the border, or even sports leagues that let men dominate and grab titles meant for women athletes.

Conservatives routinely defund Planned Parenthood, repeatedly attack women's bodily autonomy and their basic right to their own bodies, routinely advocate gross, misogynistic stances that effectively punish women for having sex. Need i go on?

Disgusting transphobia at the end as well, get some perspective

 

[Estebonrober]

It was a stretch for the WaPo to make an obituary for him and call him an austere conservative religious scholar.

Conservatives oppose organizations that denigrate women, whether it's WaPo's beloved ISIS, an organization created for the purpose of raping girls, the Mexican cartels that get flesh across the border, or even sports leagues that let men dominate and grab titles meant for women athletes.

Lol this post is a stretch.

 

[Zardnaar]

Conservatives routinely defund Planned Parenthood, repeatedly attack women's bodily autonomy and their basic right to their own bodies, routinely advocate gross, misogynistic stances that effectively punish women for having sex. Need i go on?

Disgusting transphobia at the end as well, get some perspective

Baghdadis policy was throwing them alive off buildings to the pavement.

Or public stoning to death with the audience participating.

 

[Zardnaar]

It was a stretch for the WaPo to make an obituary for him and call him an austere conservative religious scholar.

Conservatives oppose organizations that denigrate women, whether it's WaPo's beloved ISIS, an organization created for the purpose of raping girls, the Mexican cartels that get flesh across the border, or even sports leagues that let men dominate and grab titles meant for women athletes.

Reading it now.
Context they are talking about what he was doing in 2003 when the USA invaded.

Which is what he was then.

 

[Estebonrober]

Reading it now.
Context they are talking about what he was doing in 2003 when the USA invaded.

Which is what he was then.

Context: Salafist Islam is a conservative take on Islam. Conservative still fits even when he was throwing ppl off of buildings.

 

[Traitorfish]

Conservatives oppose organizations that denigrate women, whether it's WaPo's beloved ISIS, an organization created for the purpose of raping girls, the Mexican cartels that get flesh across the border, or even sports leagues that let men dominate and grab titles meant for women athletes.

The claim that you oppose the denigration of women would be more convincing if you managed to reach the end of the very sentence containing this claim without denigrating trans women.