2020 US Election (Part One)

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For being so vitriolic over a difference of opinion on an internet forum.

LOL...so you have appointed yourself the vitriol level monitor? Do you think we should crawl to you and beg for a bathroom pass too, you megalomaniacal narcissist?
 
If it isn't a candidates job to convince people they are worth voting for and will actually deliver for them what is their job?
I'd say its about time the Democrats stopped believing themselves entitled to votes and started earning them, but before they can do that they will have to pick a candidate who appeals to more than just disillusioned republicans.

You seem to be ignoring history. The Democrats have ALWAYS played some variation of "I will only vote if I'm inspired." That's why the GOP, representative of a small minority view, has been allowed to ruin the country. Congratulations on the effectiveness of your moral stand.
 
Because the worst of the Democrats is going to be light years ahead of the Republicans (and Trump in particular) on almost every issue you care about, even if they don't go far enough.

And at the end of the day this isn't a typical election; I truly believe this one is make-or-break for the very idea of a representative democracy in this country though I concede it's probably too late.

RBG might not make another four years, that's another hard right supreme Court judge Trump could nominate.

There's 1 conservative judge who sometimes sides with the liberal ones. That could be 6-3.

Hilary was crap but would have been better than Trump if you are left leaning. GoP picked up two judges.
 
RBG might not make another four years, that's another hard right supreme Court judge Trump could nominate.

There's 1 conservative judge who sometimes sides with the liberal ones. That could be 6-3.

Hilary was crap but would have been better than Trump if you are left leaning. GoP picked up two judges.

Two SCOTUS judges. Hundreds of lower court judges. Gutted environmental protections leading to air pollution taking its first upturn in decades among other things. Pretty much eliminated all enforcement against illegal campaign activities at every level of government. Massively weakened US global strategic position.

But, what the heck, Hillary just wasn't inspiring so it's all her fault.
 
LOL...so you have appointed yourself the vitriol level monitor? Do you think we should crawl to you and beg for a bathroom pass too, you megalomaniacal narcissist?
I have no idea what you're talking about.

I just know you wished me 4 years of intense suffering because I don't want to vote for Kamala Harris.

I find that strange.

I disagree w lots of people on here but I wouldn't put a voodoo curse on them because of it.
 
I have no idea what you're talking about.

I just know you wished me 4 years of intense suffering because I don't want to vote for Kamala Harris.

I find that strange.

I disagree w lots of people on here but I wouldn't put a voodoo curse on them because of it.

So what? You deserve the consequences of your actions. Why shouldn't I point that out? You think you're special?
 
But, what the heck, Hillary just wasn't inspiring so it's all her fault.
Of course it's her fault. She lost. With lowest voter turnout in decades.

The lesson is to pick better candidates (and not sabotage the one the polls showed had better chance of being Trump) not suck-it-up and be a team player. F-that
 
But, what the heck, Hillary just wasn't inspiring so it's all her fault.

I think it's quite obvious that Hillary Clinton is the person most responsible for Hillary Clinton losing the 2016 election.

I will note it's interesting how your logic flips around depending on whether the party's candidate agrees with you ideologically. If the party nominates an uninspiring centrist and they lose, it's the left/young people's fault for not voting, but if the Democrats nominate an actual left candidate and they lose because they can't win over the moderates, it was the left's fault for forcing through an extreme candidate.
 
So what? You deserve the consequences of your actions. Why shouldn't I point that out? You think you're special?
Bro, here's what you said in case you forgot :

"and I hope he makes them [the next four years] as painful for you personally as they could possibly be"

That's not "you're gonna make the wrong decision, oh well, you'll see what happens"

You're actively rooting for me to suffer. I mean I'm not particularly hurt as you and I don't know each other from Adam, I just find it strange to get so hateful over nothing. I don't have that kind of ill-will even towards truly evil people I've had to deal w in life.
 
You seem to be ignoring history. The Democrats have ALWAYS played some variation of "I will only vote if I'm inspired." That's why the GOP, representative of a small minority view, has been allowed to ruin the country. Congratulations on the effectiveness of your moral stand.

Its not my moral stand. Its your message of "Hey, we won't shaft you as much as the last guy" doesn't give much reason for people to vote. I'd prefer Warren, could live with Sanders or Yang, could understand why people would pick Harris or Gabbard, but Biden is all the Democrat failures of the last 20 years rolled into 1 easy package.

If you want Trump out so much vote for his opponent, but don't expect his opponent to be picked to suit you.
 
Of course it's her fault. She lost. With lowest voter turnout in decades.

The lesson is to pick better candidates (and not sabotage the one the polls showed had better chance of being Trump) not suck-it-up and be a team player. F-that

First off, player, as one might expect your "facts" are made up to support your position and totally out of step with reality. The lesson is that ignorant clowns who say "if I can't have my way than screw it, I don't care about tens of millions of people getting the shaft from Trump" need to be either educated or shafted themselves, and I frankly don't care which.

Its not my moral stand. Its your message of "Hey, we won't shaft you as much as the last guy" doesn't give much reason for people to vote. I'd prefer Warren, could live with Sanders or Yang, could understand why people would pick Harris or Gabbard, but Biden is all the Democrat failures of the last 20 years rolled into 1 easy package.

If you want Trump out so much vote for his opponent, but don't expect his opponent to be picked to suit you.

I don't. It seems like you and Narz are the ones demanding that the opponent be picked to suit you. I'll campaign full out for whoever Trump's opponent is, have no fear on that front.
 
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And that has exactly what to do with your glaringly wrong claim about voter turnout?

One time I saw this woman make an obviously after the light changed turn, and this guy blared his horn at her...which I don't approve of but he was in the right and obviously mad as a hornet. She made this exaggerated "patting her mouth yawn" gesture at him as he went by. He whipped a turn into the same parking lot she went into and slapped the snot out of her when she got out of her car. Much like you she wanted to live in a world where her actions had no consequences.
 
voting for Obama had consequences, the lives of millions of people were ruined
Exactly which millions and how were they ruined?
 
I don't. It seems like you and Narz are the ones demanding that the opponent be picked to suit you. I'll campaign full out for whoever Trump's opponent is, have no fear on that front.

Well as a non-US citizen I'm not demanding anything, just expressing a personal preference.
Still, if you want to keep putting forward the same people who keep losing you elections I suspect you will keep losing elections.
 
The goal and only goal should be to defeat Trump. All the rest will take care of itself if we do that.
 
Exactly which millions and how were they ruined?

People in Libya are humans too, you know. That country is dead and to never live again - much like equally rebuilt Iraq.
Obama was refined, pleasant to listen to and could work even as a role model - yet that doesn't take away from the fact he too started wars and invasions of foreign countries, much like the vast majority of US presidents. Trump is ridiculously clownish, and even so he still hasn't actually started a war - though he did have some airstrikes against Syria.
 
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