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2020 US Election (Part Two)

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Lexicus, Mar 11, 2020.

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  1. RobAnybody

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    I've heard of people not typing in complete sentences, but this is the first time I've encountered someone not reading in complete sentences.
     
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  2. Drakle

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    THE NEWS SIDE DEBUNKED THE CRAP THAT THE OPINION PAGE SPEWED OUT

    You literally can't even read the headline of your own picture.

    The subhead of the hard news article is

    Wow, that was so hard. /s

    Here is Fox News, a right-wing network built to power the Republican party.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-tony-bobulinski-joe-biden-unanswered-questions
    Meanwhile Trump has a secret Chinese bank account where he withdraw millions starting in 2017, when he was actually President. Meanwhile this Hunter Venture, also in 2017 happened when Joe Biden was a private citizen.

    Joe Biden has released his tax returns. His income is all clear, and related to his salary as VP, and sales of a book.

    Meanwhile, Trump has not released his tax returns, and how much money he has come in, looted from the US government, or paid in bribes is unknown, but is substantial.

    You couldn't transparently be more full of ****. You are not a real Bernie supporter, nor do you believe in any of his ideals. You just do the weird right-wing thing, where they can't flat out admit they are actually a Trump supporter unless they are in a hug box where no mean liberals will criticise them.
     
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  3. Takhisis

    Takhisis Jinping, wer fragt uns?

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    Comrade anybody, have you not heard of comrade onejayhawk's prodigious misreadin skills?
     
  4. RobAnybody

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    I tend to skim past his posts - kind of a "manual ignore" type of thing.
     
  5. Takhisis

    Takhisis Jinping, wer fragt uns?

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    I of course cannot comment on that, comrade, because of forum rules.
     
  6. Hamid.H

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    for the 100th time on this forum

    virtually every iranian american has at least a somewhat favorable view of the shah because our families were the ones who fled around the time of the revolution. the shah was very progressive and especially so when you consider the economic, political, and cultural structures of iran during that time. he also championed many liberal causes that are still being fought for in western countries today.

    i take it you know nothing of the white revolution (aka the bloodless revolution). the shah launched a series of wide-spread reforms designed to weaken the traditional elitist factions that supported the old system. were talking things such as industrialization, the eradication of malaria, allowing women to vote, nationalization of forests and pastures, improvement of the education system, formation of literacy and health corps for rural isolated areas, profit sharing schemes for workers, and other means to reduce the influence of landlords to further support the working class. he expropriated large and medium-sized estates from elitist factions for the benefit of small farmers, provided free-of-charge nourishment for school age children. he also did a lot for education and greatly increased the average iranian income. the shah dragged those supporting old systems of patriarchal oppression, social inequality, and hereditary privilege kicking and screaming into the future.

    on this forum ive been accused by so-called progressive democrats and liberals as everything from being a jihadist to a nazi or a fascist simply because of my background and religion. its disgusting and shameful that i should have to put up with such baseless discrimination just because im an iranian who also happens to be muslim. to put it frankly i expected better from people who profess to have such "liberal and progressive" views. how about you start practicing what you preach!
     
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  7. Takhisis

    Takhisis Jinping, wer fragt uns?

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    I do, comrade, but if you want to support any of those then you should definitely be voting for Joe Biden. Because Donald Trump is an active opponent of all those.

    And no, I for one haven't called you any of jihadist, nazi, or fascist.
     
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  8. Hamid.H

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    they guy who passed a draconian crime bill in 1993 and called black people super predators?

    no thanks. thats not.at.all. what im about.
     
  9. Drakle

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    I didn't say **** about your profile pic. You are still transparently a Trump supporter.

    Though now that you brought it, up, I find it hilarious you can idolise the Shah, who was still an authoritarian ruler who used state terror against all kinds of dissents, massive torture and abuse of political prisoners, and lived an opulent life completely detached from the common people, but apparently can't bring yourself to vote for Biden who is campaigning on

    Climate change action
    $15 dollar minimum wage
    A Public option which will cover nearly all uninsured
    Real Democracy
    Massive infrastructure spending
    Modernising America

    etc

    He didn't call them Superpredators. You've gotten your propaganda wires crossed.

    Oh and Bernie voted for the crime bill. Not only that, he boasted about it and had it on his campaign site for years. And contained was stuff like an Assult weapons ban and the Violence Against Women Act.

    And there was a massive demand at the time for something to be done, about crime, including by the black community. Not every piece of the bill ended up working and some bits did cause harm, but people decontextualised the entire bill, and treat it as the root cause of all evil, which was passed because Joe Biden secretly hates black people. And all the black people are too stupid to realise that Biden is somehow controlling them.
     
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  10. Hamid.H

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    im not a trump supporter. i do however have several friends who have made a pact to vote for trump in protest. i tried to convince them it was a stupid idea.

    i just cant with good conscienceconcious vote for anyone whos made past remarks like that and then went ahead and chose a literal cop as their vp. someone who is the antithesis of everything blm stands for. its like theyre actively trying to lose the election.

    it so disgusting how the dnc has alienated its base and is just sucking up to corporate donors. they no longer care about me. i wont vote for trump out of spite, but im not voting for joe biden either. i couldnt be more unenthusiastic about biden. it feels like theyre just going through the motions to support blm and the lgbtq communities. harris is possibly the worst vp pick next to hitler.

    and now this laptop from hell scandal. NO thanks!
     
  11. innonimatu

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    I'm afraid you will be proven wrong pretty soon. Or perhaps not, but if so only because Biden loses. Biden is every bit as corrupt as Trump while being more connected and having a far easier time at it. He can cause more damage especially if he finds himself without opposition - his party gains control also of the legislature. You want to believe that the end of your nightmare is coming - it's not. It can get worse. And that by now is already locked in, with these two candidates.

    But irrespective of that, because there's little point in arguing about just how bad it will turn out, what I can't help noticing and commenting on is that some of the same people who got their panties all twisted over allegations of "russian hookers, russian blackmail" by the candidate now dismiss drugs and hookers by the prodigal son of another candidate. Excessive partisanship leads to blindness.
     
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  12. Takhisis

    Takhisis Jinping, wer fragt uns?

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    But not by the candidate himself, right?
     
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  13. Hamid.H

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    if you think for a second biden didnt know about any of this and still had hunter handel his business dealings he setup youre blind.
     
  14. Lexicus

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    The end of the nightmare? Noooo.

    That said,
    this is parently ridiculous. You obviously have no idea how corrupt Trump actually is.
     
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  15. Drakle

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    Harris is Hilter and is just going through the motions of supporting the LGBTQ community. Mkay.


    I mean she only has a perfect voting record on LGBTQ issues in the Senate, set up an anti-hate crime unit in 2004! targeting hate crimes committed against the community, refused to defend Prop 8, officiated the marriage of the plaintiffs in the case after they won, and supports pro-LBGTQ legislation and executive action, like allowing Trans people back in the military and banning conversion therapy. So yes, she is basically Hitler.

    'Alienated its base'. Lol, is that why Joe Biden won nearly 10 million more votes than Bernie Sanders and an absolute majority of the Democratic primary vote. You're the one out of touch, lol.

    But let's say Joe Biden does lose. He won't, without mass cheating, which can only happen if the popular vote isn't overwhelming. But if it happens, do you think that anybody you like will actually have a chance? Breyer could very well be dead by 2024, meaning a 7-2 SC. Democrats will have missed Senate seat opportunities, so it will be hard to get a simple majority, let alone a working one. GOP will see electoral suppression and cheating as their only saviour, and a fortress which managed to win them an election even when they let a pandemic go wild, the economy crash, and a polling situation that was 7-11 points negative for them. If Biden doesn't win, you don't get any democracy. You get plutocracy, racism and Christian fascism. This is the make or break election. People like you blew 2000, 2004, 2010, 2014 and 2016. The US is out of chances.


    bullfeathers. You ignore the brazen corruption of the Trumps and play up complete bull that has been shown as such by numerous hard news sources.

    Trump openly bragged about being in the hole for Russia, Israel and the Saudis. He has hundreds of millions in debt to foreign creditors. He was banned from buying a casino here in Australia because he was a known fraudster and money launderer. He was blackballed by American banks and propped up by foreign money.
     
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  16. Hamid.H

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    i would consider fact checking the information they provide you on your own time.

    if it were up to harris the lgbtq community would have no access to life saving hrt medications. besides she spent her time as california attorney general keeping poc incarcerated for minor drug infractions and biden says marijuana is bad and would never legalize it. my fellow bernie supporters tell me we have a greater chance of dump legalizing it than biden/harris do, given their past.

    did you also know that biden passed the bill that makes student loans ineligible for financial relief? i have a hard time supporting someone like that.

    its just disheartening that we could have had an amazing hero like bernie that spent his entire carer fighting corruption and fighting the establishment but the dnc decided to rob him just like they did in 2016. instead were left with more of the establishment or trump.
     
  17. Takhisis

    Takhisis Jinping, wer fragt uns?

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    Source?
     
  18. Drakle

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    What the hell does this mean?

    No, she dramatically reduced the numbers sent to prison, and either released them or deflected them into rehab/education programs

    And your fellow Bernie supporters are morons. It is on the Biden-Harris Platform.

    There is no collateral. Why wouldn't everybody just declare bankruptcy once they have their degree, which is just knowledge that can't be taken away? If you default on a house, they take the house, if you default on a car, they take the car.

    Bernie endorsed Biden. Also he voted for all sorts of bills in congress. He didn't sulk when he didn't get his perfect bill.

    How did the establishment 'rob him'. Biden won more votes.

    Anyway, it is clear all you care about is weed and your personal college debt. Your position is that of privilege. You are effectively as bad as a Trump supporter.
     
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  19. Berzerker

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    If China has dirt on Biden they'd want him to win, otherwise their dirt aint worth much. Course they already have dirt on him, Hunter was tagging along making a fortune with various jobs & investments and selling access in new lands under Joe's watchful eye. No no, Joe didn't know anything about it!

    And thats why the Democrats were so intent on sweeping Hunter and Burisma under the rug with an avalanche of lies, Joe's on tape bragging about how he fired the person(s) investigating Burisma. If he actually met with Burisma people days before bribing Ukraine to fire the prosecutor it looks even dirtier.

    If thats not his laptop and those aren't selfies of Hunter on the crack pipe why doesn't he say so? Maybe he wasn't 3,000 miles away and was in a drug induced haze when he dropped it off. I thought the shop keep gave the laptop to the FBI and Rudy got a copy later on. I dont care about Hunter's sex and drugs (other than Dad's putrid hypocrisy), but the photos look real and the evasive non-denial denials from the Bidens look suspicious.

    According to the political compass showing the 4 candidates Biden and Trump are close to each other and if foreign policy was the benchmark Biden would likely be right of Trump on matters of war and trade.

    I was noting Antifa's popularity here and Stalinism's penchant for violently suppressing free speech because you said "No one here has advocated anything Stalinist ever".

    We're not talking about the government and you do support the violent suppression of free speech when you dont like the people being silenced. If the KKK showed up at a BLM protest and "a fight broke out" you'd be singing a different tune.
     
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    I think you might be confusing popularity with defense of existence. Stalin murdered millions of political dissidents of all sorts mainly for personal power. Your comparison is childish and stupid.


    And here it is, equivocating the KKK with BLM. Moderator Action: Snip...
     
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