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2020 US Election (Part Two)
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Timsup2nothin
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I know you are a child of the internet, but there used to be this thing called television. In the US there are these people who still watch it, and despite the tremendous effectiveness of posting videos on YouTube and other social media for reaching young people that don't vote the PAC making these ads is actually dumping them out the old fashioned way.
But since you are you I'll see what I can find.
EDIT: I'm wrong...different PAC. Ad is very much the same style. I wonder if someone is producing ads independently and feeding them to PACs for distribution. That would be a new level of coordination.
Zardnaar
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Yeah wait for some new ones they can make in a week or two.
It's unfair to blame Trump for the pandemic. His stupid bullcrap and response though....
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That's what this one was about. They outright said "No, Donald Trump didn't invent the Corona Virus. It's just that everything he has done in response has made the crisis worse." There was a line about Trump managing to skate for three years without doing his job, but now that we have had a crisis on his watch we see what having a president who refuses to get prepared can cost us. That narration over the death toll graph brought it home, hard, that they aren't talking about abstractions when they say costs.
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Got a link to the new one?
Timsup2nothin
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Not yet. I saw it on television and I'm trying to sort out who the PAC was.
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Biden is senile and we are sleepwalking into a second term for trump and I'm going to keep saying that as long as good people like tim continue to support Biden on the grounds of him somehow being more electable
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Perhaps it's the corrupt and rigged electoral system, and the plutocrats and party bosses who run it and cheat the voters out of any meaningful choice in their government you should be raging against, not two babbling old men with diminishing mental faculties running against each other in November, with no opposition being allowed to win to pose a meaningful threat by the crooked hands controlling the whole system, and those who end up voting for one or the other because they're left with no meaningful choice, having been robbed of any thoroughly by this system. It might be a worthwhile, honest, and deserving target of your bile.
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CNN is musing that Cuomo might get drafted into the 2020 race somehow as his counter-programming to Trump's handling of the virus has boosted his popularity.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/28/politics/andrew-cuomo-polls/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/28/politics/andrew-cuomo-polls/index.html
Lexicus
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This crap pisses me off so much because Cuomo has spent nearly ten years reducing New York State's readiness to deal with a crisis like this...his panel proposed cutting $400M from Medicaid just a week or so ago...he only looks "good" because Trump looks so utterly horrible...
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NYC had a concert in mid March just a couple weeks ago and Jackson Browne caught the bug. New Orleans had Mardis Gras near the end of February and Florida had spring break, it all reminds me of the mayor of Amity, Long Island in Jaws.
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Problem being that "more electable" is now a fixed data point. The nominee is the only electable, which includes most electable and more electable by default. Short of outright dying or withdrawing from the race for some reason Biden will be the nominee. So he is all we have to support. He's not perfect, but neither are Sanders or Bloomberg and if they were going to be the nominee I'd be doing the same thing I'm doing now.
That said, I watched him do his electronic town hall from his basement last night, and he looked good. As a strategist I definitely saw moments I could clip and exaggerate into support for the "senility" narrative, but truth is that I could have clipped Anderson Cooper into an "is he senile?" ad also. Talk off the cuff on camera and there are a lot of "ummm..." and "errrr..." moments. That's life. But I think the majority of voters will at some point see an extended uncut appearance and recognize the clip jobs for what they are.
sure, let's nominate the guy who isn't even running, anything but bernie sanders!
Someone who didn't run is far more likely than someone who ran and lost. "You can't even carry the party, how do you think you can carry the general" is pretty damning. But this isn't a real issue because Biden is most likely gonna make it through November. Cuomo is definitely giving himself a shot at 2024 though.
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Its like you enjoy compounding left wing nightmares lol. Both of those guys are Republicans by any policy based measure in 2020.
Sanders is massively popular, Biden is only winning by a combination of establishment backroom shenanigans and by virtue of the fact that elect-ability politics has poisoned the minds of two generations.
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Alot of left wing people have very stupid ideas or expect to much. They then get dejected because even if their candidate wins they can't deliver on expectations.
Even if Bernie won he wouldn't be able to deliver on most of his promises. Hell he might even achieve less than Biden.
That's because Biden knows how to play the game. Let's say this pandemic pushes through healthcare reforms. Bernie would fight with other Democrats or get sidetracked and try and push another policy with it.
Biden would know who to contact and what promises need to be made etc.
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Define "massively popular." He can't get enough votes from Democrats to win the primaries and there's no indication that he can get votes from other than Democrats. His popularity is unquestionably deep, but there is no indication that it is widespread.
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I don't think you have much evidence for this actually. I think you are talking out of your ass. First off most left wing platforms enjoy majority support some of it quite demanding support and second Sander's inability in congress to move legislation is because our legislators are corporate puppets, not because his networking sucks.
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sure, let's nominate the guy who isn't even running, anything but bernie sanders!
It was done all the time in the 1800's, and until the end of the 1920's. Haven't you ever read about those old party nominations and conventions. The "smoke-filled room," quote, and "dark horse candidates," and those old terms. Of course, with modern laws about around smoking in indoor public place, or private places open to the public, "smoke-filled rooms," are definitely obsoletely, but drafting someone who was not in the original list of candidates for a party nomination at the last used to be surprisingly common.
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